# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1886
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37705 "2019-10-12T23:08:34Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I 'm going to drink myself silly again. Best we all can do. Then die laughing at those fools. I’m having a spliff with it too. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37706 "2019-10-12T23:17:10Z")
Google is being quiet on this so if any of you remember… Wasn’t there a news article just after Trump took the Presidency that an employee at one of his hotels (I thought in Turkey) was arrested? I never saw the resolution of that. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37707 "2019-10-12T23:17:56Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I 'm going to drink myself silly again. > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Best we all can do. Then die laughing at those fools. I’m having a spliff with it too. There’s no hope. I’m in. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37708 "2019-10-12T23:18:33Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Boy, that Kellyanne Conway sure has been quiet recently, huh? Or is it just me? SHHHHhhh…Don’t risk summoning her! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37709 "2019-10-12T23:47:57Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > But a serious question. Why the hell are we sending troops to Saudi Arabia? Do they have an army of any consequence? They sure as hell have a lot of weapons we sold them. Maybe the question can be answered in one word - “oil.” Is there some sort of implied, or direct quid pro quo , if we don’t help them they will, what, take oil off the market? Raise prices? Individual 1 came flat out and said it was because Saudi is paying us. The US military is now mercenaries for hire. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37710 "2019-10-12T23:50:58Z")
[Attorney General Bill Barr](https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1183106310956617730): > [@Bill Barr](#): > > “This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37711 "2019-10-12T23:56:17Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Attorney General Bill Barr](https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1183106310956617730): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Bill Barr > > “This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values.” Isn’t that a direct translation of an old speech by some Taliban leader or other? It sounds awfully familiar… ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37712 "2019-10-13T00:16:00Z")
IIRC, the Trump buildings in Ankara don’t belong to him; as is the case with perhaps the majority of Trump-branded properties, it’s just a licensing deal where he rents out his name and perhaps hires some managers. I seem to recall there being some dissatisfaction expressed by the owner a while ago … sorry, no research right now, the ALCS is on. Sent from my SM-S727VL using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37713 "2019-10-13T01:15:42Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > But a serious question. Why the hell are we sending troops to Saudi Arabia? Do they have an army of any consequence? They sure as hell have a lot of weapons we sold them. Maybe the question can be answered in one word - “oil.” Is there some sort of implied, or direct quid pro quo , if we don’t help them they will, what, take oil off the market? Raise prices? They have royals as officers who don’t give a damn about their troops, and troops who only know how to retreat. Yes, it is about oil, although we have enough for ourselves with fracking and the ruin that causes. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37714 "2019-10-13T02:32:14Z")
[Michael M. Grynbaum](https://twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1183198230387011584), _The New York Times_: > [@](#): > > Jeanine Pirro’s last question for the president: “Do you take vitamins? How do you do this?” _Sniff_ Take a look at [this photo that Trump posted in 2016](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658). An open drawer in the background reveals multiple boxes of Sudafed. [On pseudoephedrine/Sudafed](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/over-the-counter-medications/pseudoephedrine): > [@](#): > > Pseudoephedrine is a drug that has been most commonly used as an ingredient in the previously over-the-counter medication Sudafed, which is used as a nasal decongestant. > … > Pseudoephedrine can be misused as an ingredient for the illicit manufacture of methamphetamines. > … > Pseudoephedrine does carry some risks of abuse on its own. Some people use the drug to promote alertness and as a stimulant. A study from Integrated Pharmacy Research and Practice notes that pseudoephedrine is among other medications available without a prescription that can be used to self-medicate, leading to a risk of abuse or addiction. Another study from BMJ Open Sport and Exercise Medicine notes that some athletes have abused pseudoephedrine as a performance-enhancing drug. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37715 "2019-10-13T03:45:06Z")
The Scottish government won Individual 1’s lawsuit trying to prevent them from putting up wind farms near his golf course. The court ordered him to pay legal fees in 2015. He has yet to pay. > **[Scottish Government Says Trump Refuses to Pay Legal Bills | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/scottish-government-says-trump-org-refuses-to-pay-legal-bills-after-losing-wind-farm-lawsuit/)** > > Trump initially filed a lawsuit to prevent the wind farm from being built in 2012, claiming telling the Scottish Parliament that the turbines would wreck the view from his resort and discourage patronage at the course. According to earlier reports,... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37716 "2019-10-13T03:46:22Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Michael M. Grynbaum](https://twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1183198230387011584), _The New York Times_: > > _Sniff_ > > Take a look at [this photo that Trump posted in 2016](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658). An open drawer in the background reveals multiple boxes of Sudafed. > > [On pseudoephedrine/Sudafed](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/over-the-counter-medications/pseudoephedrine): Somebody pointed out that the boxes look like they’re UK boxes of Sudafed, which hints at the fact that he’s buying them out of the country for … reasons? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37717 "2019-10-13T04:13:49Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Michael M. Grynbaum](https://twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1183198230387011584), _The New York Times_: > > _Sniff_ > > Take a look at [this photo that Trump posted in 2016](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658). An open drawer in the background reveals multiple boxes of Sudafed. > > [On pseudoephedrine/Sudafed](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/over-the-counter-medications/pseudoephedrine): Now we know why he says you need an ID in a supermarket - to buy Sudafed… ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37718 "2019-10-13T04:49:46Z")
Trump at rally: “[We’re going to defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the Moon!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKPAqi0DSOs)” ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37719 "2019-10-13T05:28:28Z")
[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Jgz720h.jpeg "Holy shit man walks on fucking moon") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/Jgz720h) ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37720 "2019-10-13T05:29:55Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump at rally: “[We’re going to defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the Moon!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKPAqi0DSOs)” My all time favorite from The Onion [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Jgz720h.jpeg "Holy shit man walks on fucking moon") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/Jgz720h) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37721 "2019-10-13T05:38:31Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > My all time favorite from The Onion > > [Holy shit man walks on fucking moon - Imgur](https://imgur.com/gallery/Jgz720h) [In a similar vein](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo). ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37722 "2019-10-13T05:53:30Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Best we all can do. Then die laughing at those fools. I’m having a spliff with it too. With you all. Got me a Purple OG spliff pre-roll. Og Bless CA. (Trump certainly doesn’t bless us. :D) ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37723 "2019-10-13T06:00:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/politics/trump-mazars-appeal-decision/index.html) > In a 2-1 ruling, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld a lower court ruling saying the firm must turn over eight years of accounting records. _2-1, not unanimous._ How certain are we that a majority of Scotus will have scruples? Even Gopsters that oppose Trump may assume that prolonging the impeachment helps Republican electoral prospects. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37724 "2019-10-13T12:26:27Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > _Sniff_ > > Take a look at [this photo that Trump posted in 2016](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658). An open drawer in the background reveals multiple boxes of Sudafed. > > [On pseudoephedrine/Sudafed](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/over-the-counter-medications/pseudoephedrine): Oh, great; when we get rid of the Orange Pustulence the White House is going to need a full meth-lab cleanup… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1885) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1887)