# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1887
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37725 "2019-10-13T12:47:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Scottish government won Individual 1’s lawsuit trying to prevent them from putting up wind farms near his golf course. The court ordered him to pay legal fees in 2015. He has yet to pay. > [Scottish Government Says Trump Refuses to Pay Legal Bills | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/scottish-government-says-trump-org-refuses-to-pay-legal-bills-after-losing-wind-farm-lawsuit) Well, isn’t that (wait for it) par for the course? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37726 "2019-10-13T13:10:47Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Well, isn’t that (wait for it) par for the course? its the albatross around his neck, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37727 "2019-10-13T14:59:40Z")
Does it come in chocolate? To paraphrase Leona Helmsley (Pollux to CFSG’s Castor in the constellation of assholes), “Only little people pay judgements.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37728 "2019-10-13T15:07:07Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I heard a new nick name for Giuliani: _Rudy Colludy_. Perfect. Rudy Colludiani. Perfecter. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37729 "2019-10-13T15:35:52Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Rudy Colludiani. > > Perfecter. Right up there with Moscow Mitch, Agent Orange and MAGAcult. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37730 "2019-10-13T15:50:34Z")
> [@simster](#): > > its the albatross around his neck, for sure. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Somebody pointed out that the boxes look like they’re UK boxes of Sudafed, which hints at the fact that he’s buying them out of the country for … reasons? One (reason) might be that the UK version doesn’t contain pseudoephedrine; it contains phenylephrene. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37731 "2019-10-13T16:16:07Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > One (reason) might be that the UK version doesn’t contain pseudoephedrine; it contains phenylephrene. Maybe Trump just uses decongestants to counter the effects of [snorting Adderall](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-snorted-adderall-apprentice-tom-arnold-noel-casler-1257787), and snorting Adderall may not be a bad thing if it’s [helping manage his ADHD](https://medium.com/@dockruse/trump-nose-best-4fdefbca82c1). ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37732 "2019-10-13T16:39:46Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Maybe Trump just uses decongestants to counter the effects of [snorting Adderall](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-snorted-adderall-apprentice-tom-arnold-noel-casler-1257787), and snorting Adderall may not be a bad thing if it’s [helping manage his ADHD](https://medium.com/@dockruse/trump-nose-best-4fdefbca82c1). Or if it’s hastening his impending demise. That would be good, too. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37733 "2019-10-13T17:07:19Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Rudy will flee the country in drag, like when Bani-Sadr left Iran. [Gene Hackman fleeing in the movie Bird Cage.](https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=you+tube+birdcage+flee+in+drag+geene+hackman#id=2&vid=f2e2227919c5c8b4ccd3912f0a2e6a5f&action=click) I doubt Rudy can pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37734 "2019-10-13T17:28:28Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > [Gene Hackman fleeing in the movie Bird Cage.](https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=you+tube+birdcage+flee+in+drag+geene+hackman#id=2&vid=f2e2227919c5c8b4ccd3912f0a2e6a5f&action=click) I doubt Rudy can pull it off. Even better, Gene Wilder in [Silver Streak](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgAxvukW9dA). I’d shell out a pretty penny to see that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37735 "2019-10-13T17:39:27Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Maybe Trump just uses decongestants to counter the effects of [snorting Adderall](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-snorted-adderall-apprentice-tom-arnold-noel-casler-1257787), and snorting Adderall may not be a bad thing if it’s [helping manage his ADHD](https://medium.com/@dockruse/trump-nose-best-4fdefbca82c1). It strikes me as more likely that the effect he’s after is to reduce swelling in his nasal passages, which, if not corrected can make snorting Adderall more difficult/less effective. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37736 "2019-10-13T18:02:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > [Gene Hackman fleeing in the movie Bird Cage.](https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=you+tube+birdcage+flee+in+drag+geene+hackman#id=2&vid=f2e2227919c5c8b4ccd3912f0a2e6a5f&action=click) I doubt Rudy can pull it off. [Oh, I don’t know about that…](https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play%3B_ylt=AwrS32G.Y6NdGCUA01hEnIlQ%3B_ylu=X3oDMTBzZWQ1aGR0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMTI-?p=youtube+rudy+giuliani+in+drag+trump&vid=112696a843bd866b3492ae43a9d27047&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.C0imJ-dEbZIBLEtnEayUYQEsCn%26pid%3DApi%26h%3D167%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fstop_trump20%2Fstatus%2F993806500572356608&tit=Donald+Trump+motor+boating+Rudy+Giuliani+dressed+in+drag.&c=11&h=167&w=300&l=15&sigr=11qmq8deo&sigt=11p96f9qk&sigi=12q5j54l9&age=1525776900&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhsm-att-att_001&hsimp=yhsm-att_001&hspart=att&tt=b) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37737 "2019-10-13T18:07:24Z")
Trigger warnings people! ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37738 "2019-10-13T19:15:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Right up there with Moscow Mitch, Agent Orange and MAGAcult. Don’t forget Leningrad Lindsey and Kiev McCarthy! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37739 "2019-10-13T20:05:27Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Does it come in chocolate? > > To paraphrase Leona Helmsley (Pollux to CFSG’s Castor in the constellation of assholes), “Only little people pay judgements.” Right. Winners know to just buy the whole judge. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37740 "2019-10-13T21:03:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > [Oh, I don’t know about that…](https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play%3B_ylt=AwrS32G.Y6NdGCUA01hEnIlQ%3B_ylu=X3oDMTBzZWQ1aGR0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMTI-?p=youtube+rudy+giuliani+in+drag+trump&vid=112696a843bd866b3492ae43a9d27047&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.C0imJ-dEbZIBLEtnEayUYQEsCn%26pid%3DApi%26h%3D167%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fstop_trump20%2Fstatus%2F993806500572356608&tit=Donald+Trump+motor+boating+Rudy+Giuliani+dressed+in+drag.&c=11&h=167&w=300&l=15&sigr=11qmq8deo&sigt=11p96f9qk&sigi=12q5j54l9&age=1525776900&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhsm-att-att_001&hsimp=yhsm-att_001&hspart=att&tt=b) Game. Set. and Match. All we need is to have the FBI catch him. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37741 "2019-10-13T22:11:19Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > One (reason) might be that the UK version doesn’t contain pseudoephedrine; it contains phenylephrene. Where are you getting that info? [UK Pharmacy Boots Advert](https://www.boots.com/sudafed-decongestant-tablets-12-10033028) [medicines .org .uk](https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/files/pil.6199.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37742 "2019-10-13T22:28:01Z")
[This link upthread](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658) shows a photo of the UK Sudafed package that appears to be what’s in the drawer next to Trump. It shows the ingredients as paracetamol (acetaminophen or Tylenol), caffeine and phenylephrene. ---
**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37743 "2019-10-13T22:32:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > [This link upthread](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658) shows a photo of the UK Sudafed package that appears to be what’s in the drawer next to Trump. It shows the ingredients as paracetamol (acetaminophen or Tylenol), caffeine and phenylephrene. David Pakman did a segment: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptx9ZbRGHmY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptx9ZbRGHmY) ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37744 "2019-10-13T22:34:21Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > [This link upthread](https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1180505950613958658) shows a photo of the UK Sudafed package that appears to be what’s in the drawer next to Trump. It shows the ingredients as paracetamol (acetaminophen or Tylenol), caffeine and phenylephrene. Phenylephrine is available in OTC decongestants in the USA. I thought there was some point beyond he probably needed a decongestant and he was in the UK, and then brought it home. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1886) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1888)