# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1888
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37745 "2019-10-13T22:47:54Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Where are you getting that info? > > [UK Pharmacy Boots Advert](https://www.boots.com/sudafed-decongestant-tablets-12-10033028) > > [medicines .org .uk](https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/files/pil.6199.pdf) I think he just got it backwards, as it’s harder to get pseudoephedrine in the US than it is to legally get a gun. (For those triggered by such a comment, it’s called hyperbole)] ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37746 "2019-10-13T22:59:33Z")
All the boxes in that pic of the drawer are different from one another, anyway. Let’s just assume he’s a methhead like the original Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37747 "2019-10-13T23:26:13Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Phenylephrine is available in OTC decongestants in the USA. I thought there was some point beyond he probably needed a decongestant and he was in the UK, and then brought it home. That many boxes? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37748 "2019-10-14T01:39:18Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > That many boxes? The top box with the green text is the only one from the UK, as far as I’ve seen reported in this thread. Dude, I’m always willing to believe the worst when it comes to the scumbag-in-chief. Are they all from the UK? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37749 "2019-10-14T17:26:24Z")
The official State Department website is advertising a speech by Mike Pompeo entitled “[Being a Christian Leader](https://www.state.gov/being-a-christian-leader/)”. I’m sure that the Republicans would be fine with a non-Christian leader giving a similar speech. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37750 "2019-10-14T17:46:02Z")
Oh yeah. To the same degree that they would express their strong belief in religious freedom should a mosque construction permit be requested in their home towns. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37751 "2019-10-14T17:50:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The official State Department website is advertising a speech by Mike Pompeo entitled “[Being a Christian Leader](https://www.state.gov/being-a-christian-leader/)”. I’m sure that the Republicans would be fine with a non-Christian leader giving a similar speech. I’m sure you’ve noticed this is what many of the Trump “administration” have in common: Pence, Pompeo, Barr, DeVos, Carson, Perry, together with Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Roberts… all are what I term Christian fundamentalists. Many believe in the literal lunacy of the Rapture™ and believe they have a role to play in shepherding us toward this fate – or at least redefining America as a “Christian” nation. This is what the Federalist Society has in store for us. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37752 "2019-10-14T17:57:37Z")
Scroll down on this page and you’ll see the video of Individual 1 massacring people labeled as news orgs, Obama, Hillary, members of Congress, John McCain, Rosie O’Donnell, and others. [https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/video-of-fake-trump-shooting-stabbing-reporters-shown-at-trumps-miami-golf-resort-report/](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/video-of-fake-trump-shooting-stabbing-reporters-shown-at-trumps-miami-golf-resort-report/) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37753 "2019-10-14T18:03:38Z")
Individual 1 accuses Kurds of intentionally releasing ISIS prisoners to drag him back into Syria. [Trump Accuses Kurds of Releasing ISIS Prisoners to Bait Him Back Into Syria](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-accuses-kurds-of-releasing-isis-prisoners-to-bait-him-back-into-syria)? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37754 "2019-10-14T20:01:03Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The official State Department website is advertising a speech by Mike Pompeo entitled “[Being a Christian Leader](https://www.state.gov/being-a-christian-leader/)”. I’m sure that the Republicans would be fine with a non-Christian leader giving a similar speech. I eagerly await a matching page and speech from [Treasury.gov](http://Treasury.gov). ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37755 "2019-10-14T20:52:01Z")
I was alerted to [this](https://oceanleadership.org/trump-taps-accuweather-ceo-head-noaa-breaking-precedent-nominating-scientists/) on a John Oliver segment. > [@](#): > > Barry Myers, the chief executive of the private weather forecasting company AccuWeather, is President Trump’s pick to run the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The appointment of Myers, a businessman and lawyer, breaks from the recent precedent of scientists leading the agency tasked with a large, complex and technically demanding portfolio. John Oliver and this article both point out that AccuWeather has lobbied Congress unsuccessfully in the past for laws requiring the forecasts about upcoming adverse weather events that NOAA releases to the public to be limited so that “clients” would have to pay AccuWeather to find out if, say, a tornado is coming. So that’s the kind of guy trump wants to put in charge of a government organization that is supposed to provide emergency weather information to the public. On top of his not being a scientist to start with and having publicly admitted that he is not a meteorologist and has no interest in the field. Surprisingly to me, the Senate has put this vote on hold for a while and apparently trump has had to submit it 3 times. I think if it doesn’t go to a vote soon he’ll have to resubmit again. There have also been sexual harassment claims at AccuWeather. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37756 "2019-10-14T21:53:45Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > One (reason) might be that the UK version doesn’t contain pseudoephedrine; it contains phenylephrene. Trump doesn’t seem like the kind of guy, to me, who would read the ingredients on a box of medicine. If he is abusing pseudoephedrine, then he probably wouldn’t know it - he would think he’s abusing Sudafed. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37757 "2019-10-14T22:31:20Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump doesn’t seem like the kind of guy, to me, who would read the ingredients on a box of medicine. You win the award for understatement of the year. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37758 "2019-10-14T23:12:23Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I was alerted to [this](https://oceanleadership.org/trump-taps-accuweather-ceo-head-noaa-breaking-precedent-nominating-scientists/) on a John Oliver segment. > > John Oliver and this article both point out that AccuWeather has lobbied Congress unsuccessfully in the past for laws requiring the forecasts about upcoming adverse weather events that NOAA releases to the public to be limited so that “clients” would have to pay AccuWeather to find out if, say, a tornado is coming. So that’s the kind of guy trump wants to put in charge of a government organization that is supposed to provide emergency weather information to the public. On top of his not being a scientist to start with and having publicly admitted that he is not a meteorologist and has no interest in the field. > > Surprisingly to me, the Senate has put this vote on hold for a while and apparently trump has had to submit it 3 times. I think if it doesn’t go to a vote soon he’ll have to resubmit again. > > There have also been sexual harassment claims at AccuWeather. It’s all Ok though. He severed his [relationship](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Lee_Myers#Nomination_to_National_Oceanic_and_Atmospheric_Administration) with AccuWeather by turning it over to his brother. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37759 "2019-10-14T23:49:10Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump doesn’t seem like the kind of guy, to me, who would read the ingredients on a box of medicine. If he is abusing pseudoephedrine, then he probably wouldn’t know it - he would think he’s abusing Sudafed. On one hand, Trump’s brother died young due to issues with alcohol, and Trump swears that he’s a lifelong teetotaler. On the other hand, 1. Trump’s a perpetual liar 2. That picture of the boxes in his office 3. The sniffling 4. The crazy 5. The sleazy looking doctor 6. The stories about his love of diet pills [https://gawker.com/the-best-theory-of-1992-donald-trump-took-amphetamine-1755299885](https://gawker.com/the-best-theory-of-1992-donald-trump-took-amphetamine-1755299885) 7. And then there’s this link, about how Sudafed was once the little secret among hockey players for getting a needed pep before games: [https://www.si.com/vault/1998/02/02/8094696/hockeys-little-helpers-the-legal-drug-of-choice-in-the-nhl-is-sudafednot-for-cold-relief-but-for-the-onice-boost-it-offers](https://www.si.com/vault/1998/02/02/8094696/hockeys-little-helpers-the-legal-drug-of-choice-in-the-nhl-is-sudafednot-for-cold-relief-but-for-the-onice-boost-it-offers) ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37760 "2019-10-15T03:06:53Z")
If he does abuse pills, he’s just doing the same limited-definitions thing as those people who think they’re not gay because they’re not flamboyant: he’s not drinking, is he? So, he’s clean. Those people make me want to pay Anderson Cooper to go around visiting them. Well, Cooper and a medical team specializing in explodey heads. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37761 "2019-10-15T13:45:10Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > .On the other hand, > > 1. Trump’s a perpetual liar > > 2. That picture of the boxes in his office > > 3. The sniffling > > 4. The crazy > > 5. The sleazy looking doctor > > 6. The stories about his love of diet pills What also strongly appears like the behavior of an addict in Trump is the combination of insecurity and self-aggrandizing, which might seem contradictory but are both sides of the same coin: self-centeredness. Also: long periods of “executive time.” If Trump isn’t an addict he might as well be one. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37762 "2019-10-15T14:52:12Z")
First rule of narcissism: only get high on your own supply. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37763 "2019-10-15T16:04:17Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > If he does abuse pills, he’s just doing the same limited-definitions thing as those people who think they’re not gay because they’re not flamboyant: he’s not drinking, is he? So, he’s clean. IIRC, Elvis didn’t think he was a drug addict because all the drugs were prescribed by physicians. > [@guizot](#): > > What also strongly appears like the behavior of an addict in Trump is the combination of insecurity and self-aggrandizing, which might seem contradictory but are both sides of the same coin: self-centeredness. > > Also: long periods of “executive time.” > > If Trump isn’t an addict he might as well be one. It’s been pointed out (here’s a [David Packman YouTube clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPFVHM_G05o) I think has already been posted here) that Trump at times appears manic and has dilated pupils, is sniffing, and sweating, which may be signs of being ramped up on something, and times where he appears to be crashing, like when he slurs his words and appears lethargic. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37764 "2019-10-15T16:16:56Z")
I knew it!!! Trump’s Syria fuckup is actually the fault of the Democrats: [Liz Cheney tried to blame the Syria debacle on impeachment](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/politics/liz-cheney-donald-trump-syria-impeachment/index.html) > [@](#): > > In the wake of President Donald Trump’s disastrous decision to pull American troops out of northern Syria, House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyoming) suggested that she had figured out what led Trump to this: Impeachment! > > Yes, impeachment. Here’s Cheney on “Fox & Friends” on Monday: > > _“The impeachment proceedings that are going on and what the Democrats are doing themselves to try to weaken this President is part of this. It was not an accident that the Turks chose this moment to roll across the border. And I think the Democrats have got to pay very careful attention to the damage that they’re doing with impeachment proceedings.”_ > > Wait, wait, wait. > > So because Democrats – three weeks as of Tuesday – formally launched an impeachment inquiry centered on Trump’s conduct in Ukraine, the President decided to go pull troops out of Syria? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1887) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1889)