# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1889
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37765 "2019-10-15T16:19:33Z")
Basically - “If you don’t give the toddler what he wants, he will break things and wreck your house. It’s your fault the toddler had a tantrum and destroyed his room - you took away his binky.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37766 "2019-10-15T16:21:09Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I knew it!!! > > Trump’s Syria fuckup is actually the fault of the Democrats: > > [Liz Cheney tried to blame the Syria debacle on impeachment](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/politics/liz-cheney-donald-trump-syria-impeachment/index.html) > [@](#): > > So because Democrats – three weeks as of Tuesday – formally launched an impeachment inquiry centered on Trump’s conduct in Ukraine, the President decided to go pull troops out of Syria? Yep. Next week, if you don’t do what Trump says, he might just nuke Chicago. And this will be the fault of the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37767 "2019-10-15T16:35:14Z")
Saw this [editorial cartoon](https://twitter.com/Cartoon4sale/status/1183077743468122114) this morning. That t-shirt needs to become a real thing. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37768 "2019-10-15T16:53:13Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Yep. Next week, if you don’t do what Trump says, he might just nuke Chicago. And this will be the fault of the Democrats. He won’t do that immediately, however. He’s actually coming here for a fundraiser sponsored in part by Ricketts of the Cubs. The last time a Trump came here, one of his sons, he visited a classy restaurant and even there was spat upon. By a member of the wait-staff. Now, I hesitate to say that I condone that, but I’d like to repeat that he was spat upon. A good gooey one from what I hear. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37769 "2019-10-15T17:55:57Z")
The restaurant was inside a Trump property, ergo: NOT a classy establishment. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37770 "2019-10-15T18:15:24Z")
I thought it was one of those (sp) Grant Atchaz places? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37771 "2019-10-15T18:27:49Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I knew it!!! > > Trump’s Syria fuckup is actually the fault of the Democrats: > > [Liz Cheney tried to blame the Syria debacle on impeachment](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/politics/liz-cheney-donald-trump-syria-impeachment/index.html) Huh. I wonder if Liz Cheney has her position because her daddy was…? Nah. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37772 "2019-10-16T00:35:52Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I knew it!!! > Trump’s Syria fuckup is actually the fault of the Democrats: > > [Liz Cheney tried to blame the Syria debacle on impeachment](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/politics/liz-cheney-donald-trump-syria-impeachment/index.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > “The impeachment proceedings that are going on and what the Democrats are doing themselves to try to weaken this President is part of this. It was not an accident that the Turks chose this moment to roll across the border. And I think the Democrats have got to pay very careful attention to the damage that they’re doing with impeachment proceedings.” This is typical bad-faith “reasoning” from the right. Cheney had to ignore _both_ the documented phone call between Trump and Turkey’s leader Erdogan, _and_ the announced-by-Trump decision to withdraw American troops. Having ignored both those salient facts, she was free to invent ‘Turkey takes its cues from Democrats!!!11!!!’ as the “explanation” for what has occurred. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37773 "2019-10-16T01:08:37Z")
**[Trump Administration Moves To Expand Logging In Nation’s Largest National Forest](https://www.npr.org/2019/10/15/770410803/trump-administration-moves-to-expand-logging-in-nations-largest-national-forest?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)** > [@](#): > > The Trump administration is proposing to exempt Alaska’s Tongass National Forest from long-standing protections against logging and development, opening the door for potential timber harvesting on 165,000 acres of old-growth forest. > > The proposal, announced Tuesday by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, comes in response to a request from the state, which wants to be fully exempted from a Clinton-era rule that limits road construction and timber harvesting in tens of millions of acres of national forest. > > State officials, including Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), have asked the Trump administration for a “full exemption” from the 2001 Roadless Rule, which limits road construction and timber harvests. They argue that the protections are stifling the local economy. > … Hell, let’s just clear cut the whole fucking state of Alaska. Who needs trees anyway? And besides, these are so **old**. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37774 "2019-10-16T04:04:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \*\*[Trump Administration Moves To Expand Logging In Nation’s Largest National Forest](https://www.npr.org/2019/10/15/770410803/trump-administration-moves-to-expand-logging-in-nations-largest-national-forest?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)\*\*Hell, let’s just clear cut the whole fucking state of Alaska. Who needs trees anyway? And besides, these are so **old**. > > ☹ The Palins will see Russia much clearer from their backyard! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37775 "2019-10-16T04:56:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \*\*[Trump Administration Moves To Expand Logging In Nation’s Largest National Forest](https://www.npr.org/2019/10/15/770410803/trump-administration-moves-to-expand-logging-in-nations-largest-national-forest?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)\*\*Hell, let’s just clear cut the whole fucking state of Alaska. Who needs trees anyway? And besides, these are so **old**. > > ☹ Nearby Ketchican is Republican country, so I’m not holding out for anything hopeful coming out of the upcoming public meetings on this. So - Rudy J is apparently a [“grenade that could explode”.](https://youtu.be/WMCtKfko89M?t=238) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37776 "2019-10-16T12:57:01Z")
Trump administration economic adviser Peter Navarro made up an economist he has quoted regularly in his books. “Ron Vara” is an anagram of Navarro’s last name. He also frequently quotes Leslie LeBon, who turns out to be his wife. > **[Top Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro quoted a made-up economist in his books...](https://www.axios.com/2019/10/16/peter-navarro-ron-vara-economist-made-up?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&__twitter_impression=true)** > > His name was "Ron Vara" — an anagram of Navarro. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37777 "2019-10-16T13:05:38Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > So - Rudy J is apparently a [“grenade that could explode”.](https://youtu.be/WMCtKfko89M?t=238) We have reached a pretty pass when John Fucking Bolton has become a rational voice re: the administration. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37778 "2019-10-16T13:21:01Z")
The parents of the British teen killed in that car/motorcycle crash with the US diplomat’s wife were invited to the white house to have a meeting with Trump. Trump, ever sympathetic, had the accused waiting in another room, apparently hoping for a shiny photo-op with all parties. When the parents were made aware of her presence, they were less than consoled. Dunn’s parents said Trump had been responsive at their meeting but the planned encounter with Sacoolas had come as a bombshell. “He said he was sorry about Harry and then he sprung the surprise that Mrs Sacoolas was in another room in the building and whether we want to meet her there and then,” Tim Dunn said. “We said no because as we’ve been saying from the start we want to meet Mrs Sacoolas but we want to do it in the UK so the police can interview her. We didn’t want to be sort of railroaded, not into a circus as such, but a meeting we weren’t prepared for.” > **[U.S. security chief 'heaped pain' on grieving parents of UK teen: lawyer](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ)** > > Donald Trump's national security adviser heaped pain and grief on the parents of a British teenager killed in a car crash by trying to hold a meeting at the White House between them and a U.S. diplomat's wife who was involved, the parents' lawyer... ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37779 "2019-10-16T13:30:14Z")
That quote should have begun with “Dunn’s parents…” Couldn’t edit. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37780 "2019-10-16T13:41:33Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The parents of the British teen killed in that car/motorcycle crash with the US diplomat’s wife were invited to the white house to have a meeting with Trump. Trump, ever sympathetic, had the accused waiting in another room, apparently hoping for a shiny photo-op with all parties. When the parents were made aware of her presence, they were less than consoled. > Dunn’s parents said Trump had been responsive at their meeting but the planned encounter with Sacoolas had come as a bombshell. > > “He said he was sorry about Harry and then he sprung the surprise that Mrs Sacoolas was in another room in the building and whether we want to meet her there and then,” Tim Dunn said. > “We said no because as we’ve been saying from the start we want to meet Mrs Sacoolas but we want to do it in the UK so the police can interview her. We didn’t want to be sort of railroaded, not into a circus as such, but a meeting we weren’t prepared for.” > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ) The last line in your linked article is particularly telling: > [@](#): > > “We have said for a long time the family needs to meet, they need to meet in private, away from the media and not curated by politicians, spies or indeed lawyers,” he said. > > “Most sensible folk and not a nincompoop in a hurry would understand that.” ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37781 "2019-10-16T13:42:36Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The parents of the British teen killed in that car/motorcycle crash with the US diplomat’s wife were invited to the white house to have a meeting with Trump. Trump, ever sympathetic, had the accused waiting in another room, apparently hoping for a shiny photo-op with all parties. When the parents were made aware of her presence, they were less than consoled. > Dunn’s parents said Trump had been responsive at their meeting but the planned encounter with Sacoolas had come as a bombshell. > > “He said he was sorry about Harry and then he sprung the surprise that Mrs Sacoolas was in another room in the building and whether we want to meet her there and then,” Tim Dunn said. > “We said no because as we’ve been saying from the start we want to meet Mrs Sacoolas but we want to do it in the UK so the police can interview her. We didn’t want to be sort of railroaded, not into a circus as such, but a meeting we weren’t prepared for.” > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ) Holy Cow! He is such a complete ass. What an idiot! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37782 "2019-10-16T13:47:52Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Holy Cow! He is such a complete ass. What an idiot! I’m absolutely positive that Trump believes that getting to have a photo op with him is worth losing their son and they would drop the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37783 "2019-10-16T14:26:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I’m absolutely positive that Trump believes that getting to have a photo op with him is worth losing their son and they would drop the whole thing. Yeah, I can believe that. I will so happy when that idiotic narcissistic asshole is no longer president! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37784 "2019-10-16T14:46:16Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The parents of the British teen killed in that car/motorcycle crash with the US diplomat’s wife were invited to the white house to have a meeting with Trump. Trump, ever sympathetic, had the accused waiting in another room, apparently hoping for a shiny photo-op with all parties. When the parents were made aware of her presence, they were less than consoled. > Dunn’s parents said Trump had been responsive at their meeting but the planned encounter with Sacoolas had come as a bombshell. > > “He said he was sorry about Harry and then he sprung the surprise that Mrs Sacoolas was in another room in the building and whether we want to meet her there and then,” Tim Dunn said. > “We said no because as we’ve been saying from the start we want to meet Mrs Sacoolas but we want to do it in the UK so the police can interview her. We didn’t want to be sort of railroaded, not into a circus as such, but a meeting we weren’t prepared for.” > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-usa-crash-parents/u-s-security-chief-heaped-pain-on-grieving-parents-of-uk-teen-lawyer-idUSKBN1WV1BQ) Christ on a zwieback… Aside from the fact that “there’s a surprise person here who wants to say something to you” is shit straight from Jerry Springer, the idea of a group therapy session with grieving parents and their son’s killer, led by a fucking sociopath, is beyond whatever is beyond “beyond the pale.” I guess they pictured a tearful 3-way hug while a grinning Trump gives his signature thumbs-up? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1888) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1890)