# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1893
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37845 "2019-10-17T01:38:20Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump [tweeted a photo](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184597281808498688) of his meeting with Pelosi today, apparently taken just after Trump had called her a “third rate” politician, captioned: “Nervous Nancy’s unhinged meltdown!” > > Nancy has now adopted that photo as her [Twitter account background picture](https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi). > > It’s a great visual! Now, you know the Tangerine Twerp didn’t call her that. [He called her a “third grade politician”](https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/16/schumer-trump-called-pelosi-third-rate-grade-politician/). ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37846 "2019-10-17T01:49:44Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Now, you know the Tangerine Twerp didn’t call her that. [He called her a “third grade politician”](https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/16/schumer-trump-called-pelosi-third-rate-grade-politician/). Can you imagine the outrage if Obama had called Boehner a “third grade politician”? Or even a “third rate politician”? That probably would have resulted in an impeachment inquiry. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37847 "2019-10-17T01:52:28Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > If that letter is real then right now would be another good time (there’s lots of them anymore) to thank all of the shit for brains dipshit motherfuckers that voted for Trump for Potus. Yeah you.(anyone reading, you) Did you vote for Trump? You did? That makes you a shit for brains dipshit motherfucker. And your mother thought you’d never amount to anything! From [Politico](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/16/trump-erdogan-letter-turkey-048758): > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump warned President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of Turkey against being “a tough guy” and “a fool” in a bombastic letter last week that was apparently delivered as the Turkish military launched its invasion of northeast Syria. > > In the [letter](https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000016d-d70a-d5f2-a5fd-f71b7d9d0002), **which was authenticated by the White House** … _(emphasis added)_ Gee. Zuss. Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37848 "2019-10-17T01:53:43Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump [tweeted a photo](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184597281808498688) of his meeting with Pelosi today, apparently taken just after Trump had called her a “third rate” politician, captioned: “Nervous Nancy’s unhinged meltdown!” > > Nancy has now adopted that photo as her [Twitter account background picture](https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi). > > It’s a great visual! And Trump thought the photo would be good for him! Nancy once again saying she will pray for the President. Trump has no idea how to deal with her. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37849 "2019-10-17T01:54:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Now, you know the Tangerine Twerp didn’t call her that. [He called her a “third grade politician”](https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/16/schumer-trump-called-pelosi-third-rate-grade-politician/). [Jill Colvin](https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/1184575389382971392), _AP_: > [@](#): > > A spat I didn’t expect to be writing about today: Pelosi says Trump called her a third GRADE politician. White House says nope, he said she was third-RATE. Let’s see: - Proclamation from White House - Mangled phrase by Trump Yeah, the evidence would point towards Pelosi’s version being more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37850 "2019-10-17T02:10:50Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Nancy has now adopted that photo as her [Twitter account background picture](https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi). Look at the faces/body language of all those guys around Trump. They all wish that they could be anywhere else. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37851 "2019-10-17T02:20:53Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Paywall so I can’t check (and not sure if it’ll make it into the print edition), but does anyone know if he really called the Italian President “Mozzarella” or was that just a terrible joke I saw on twitter? I shudder to think of a Whitehouse visit with Prime Minister of Vietnam - Nguyễn Xuân Phúc. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37852 "2019-10-17T02:27:47Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Look at the faces/body language of all those guys around Trump. They all wish that they could be anywhere else. Yeah, the military guy on Trump’s right is poignant. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37853 "2019-10-17T02:28:16Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > He said Trump absorbs data and facts? WTF?? He does, but the absorption lasts until the next shiny thing or pair of boobs gets his attention. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37854 "2019-10-17T02:36:53Z")
> [@](#): > > History will look upon you favorably if you get this the right and humane way. It will look upon you forever as the devil if good things don’t happen. **Don’t be a tough guy**. Don’t be a fool! > > I will call you later. [I’m confused. I thought that Donnie 2 Scoops admired big, tough guys, who had tears in their eyes…](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2018/09/08/according-to-donald-trump-a-lot-of-people-are-crying-around-donald-trump.html) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37855 "2019-10-17T02:37:33Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump [tweeted a photo](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184597281808498688) of his meeting with Pelosi today, apparently taken just after Trump had called her a “third rate” politician, captioned: “Nervous Nancy’s unhinged meltdown!” > > Nancy has now adopted that photo as her [Twitter account background picture](https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi). > > It’s a great visual! it has been reported that at the time of the photo ms pelosi stated “ every road with you leads to Putin”. The look on the face of the guy lower left is amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37856 "2019-10-17T03:11:31Z")
I just figured Pelosi was daring Trump to pull her finger. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37857 "2019-10-17T03:47:43Z")
Another thing about that letter that might range from rude to treasonous: Gen. So-and-so sent me a confidential letter detailing what kinds of concessions he’s willing to make (the best ones ever!!) and I am forwarding that to you. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37858 "2019-10-17T03:52:54Z")
> [@The Dotard in Chief](#): > > Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool! [Don’t be stupid. be a smarty!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtZ1zMEKyI) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37859 "2019-10-17T04:06:57Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump [tweeted a photo](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184597281808498688) of his meeting with Pelosi today, apparently taken just after Trump had called her a “third rate” politician, captioned: “Nervous Nancy’s unhinged meltdown!” > > Nancy has now adopted that photo as her [Twitter account background picture](https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi). > > It’s a great visual! Yeah, it is, but tbh, I have a small problem with her “self-description,” as it were: > [@Nancy Pelosi](#): > > Speaker of the House, focused on strengthening America’s middle class and creating jobs; mother, grandmother, dark chocolate connoisseur. She’s objectively right about dark chocolate, but the milk/dark issue (as it concerns chocolate) is pretty divisive. Almost as divisive as the issue of whether it should be pronounced “di-VICE-ive” or “di-VISS-ive.” She would have done better to have just said “chocolate,” and let the reader mentally fill in “milk” or “dark,” in accordance with their own tastes.\* We need to get a majority, not just the non-deplorables. \*Or “white.” :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37860 "2019-10-17T04:16:14Z")
No. People who like white chocolate should be ashamed of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37861 "2019-10-17T04:16:59Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Another thing about that letter that might range from rude to treasonous: Gen. So-and-so sent me a confidential letter detailing what kinds of concessions he’s willing to make (the best ones ever!!) and I am forwarding that to you. That was what I noticed the most about the substance of it too. Does the general know you are forwarding _his letter to you_ on to Erdogan? Somehow it seems hard to believe that the Kurds would intentionally be using Trump as their back-channel to Erdogan. As for the writing, it reads a lot like it was written by an all-talk bully-wanna-be in 6th grade. (Or, maybe it’s third.). Very, “you’ll be sorry if you don’t do what I say.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37862 "2019-10-17T04:31:34Z")
You have to admit, the exclamation points do give it a certain amount pizzazz otherwise lacking in official correspondence between world leaders. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37863 "2019-10-17T04:35:05Z")
Have all the professional writers at the White House been detailed to Impeachment Defense PR HQ already? Every last one? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37864 "2019-10-17T04:39:46Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > That was what I noticed the most about the substance of it too. Does the general know you are forwarding _his letter to you_ on to Erdogan? Somehow it seems hard to believe that the Kurds would intentionally be using Trump as their back-channel to Erdogan. By this time, I think anyone on the planet that thinks that jackass is going to keep any communication to him with the words “dear president” in it secret are out of their minds. > [@](#): > > As for the writing, it reads a lot like it was written by an all-talk bully-wanna-be in 6th grade. (Or, maybe it’s third.). Very, “you’ll be sorry if you don’t do what I say.” Second grade. Trump wasn’t insulting Ms. Pelosi when he called her a “third grade politician”. He is a “second grade bully” so he was saying she’s at least a grade above him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1892) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1894)