# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1898
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37945 "2019-10-18T15:06:07Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I can’t believe we’re going to invite French and Italian people to our country and let them eat Trump hotel food. > > “Ze beefsteak is, how you say, very heavily cooked.” > “Passa da ketchup.” > > I hope they have the option of ordering in Cubano sandwiches, _ropa vieja,_ and panfried plantains from selected joints in Miami. It will be a big pile of (so-called) burgers from Mickey D’s. And several Happy Meals (with toys) for FPT\*. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37946 "2019-10-18T15:35:13Z")
[This one](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-cybersecurity/russia-says-it-is-starting-to-resume-u-s-cyber-cooperation-tass-idUSKBN1WW1TL) really gets me. (Reuters) > [@](#): > > Russia and the United States are gradually starting to resume cooperation on cyber security, TASS news agency cited the head of Russia’s FSB Federal Security Service as saying on Thursday. Nice we find out about it through FSB, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37947 "2019-10-18T15:37:08Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > They don’t _have_ to go - the G7 talks are totally informal for one thing - but generally speaking it’s good for votes when a head of government is seen taking his/her place on The World Stage and hobnobbing with other famous leaders and so forth. …which they could all do somewhere else in a [del]No Homers[/del] G6 meeting, held at the same time. It’d be a massive snub to Trump and the US but frankly it’s not like Trump has been terribly polite to any of the other G7 leaders previously. And they might like to be able to have a grown-up conversation without Trump or his handbag-designer daughter in the room. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37948 "2019-10-18T15:43:46Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > [This one](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-cybersecurity/russia-says-it-is-starting-to-resume-u-s-cyber-cooperation-tass-idUSKBN1WW1TL) really gets me. (Reuters) > > > [@](#): > > > > Russia and the United States are gradually starting to resume cooperation on cyber security, TASS news agency cited the head of Russia’s FSB Federal Security Service as saying on Thursday. > > Nice we find out about it through FSB, too. So we’re outsourcing our henhouse security protocols to the foxes. Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37949 "2019-10-18T15:48:39Z")
If y’all recall, Trump floated this idea right after the secret, 90-minute Helsinki meeting with Putin. > ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37950 "2019-10-18T15:55:32Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If y’all recall, Trump floated this idea right after the secret, 90-minute Helsinki meeting with Putin. > > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753) Sure. I just didn’t think we’d actually, you know, _do_ it. My recollection is that there was a lot of push-back at the time. Yesterday, this news passed with virtually no notice. Maddow made mention as did Reuters. I didn’t see/hear about it anywhere else. My representatives will be hearing from me today about this. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37951 "2019-10-18T19:23:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It will be a big pile of (so-called) burgers from Mickey D’s. And several Happy Meals (with toys) for FPT\*. Don’t you mean “so-called berders”? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37952 "2019-10-18T19:50:14Z")
I mean, the self dealing at his stupid golf course is just a test right? If they let me get away with this, then they’ll let me get away with anything. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37953 "2019-10-18T19:56:15Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s a really long article. You get 3 freebies a month – worth a try? > > Here are a few excerpts: > > That’s as far as I will go. There’s lots more. The reporting was good but isn’t current. Things were a clusterfuck with nobody wanting to make decisions, but they’ve settled down. Ricky P has largely let the agencies do their thing. Yes, OMB proposed dumb budgets but Congress told them to piss off. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37954 "2019-10-18T21:19:23Z")
My impression of Rick Perry is that he’s the rare Republican who’s aware of his own limitations. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37955 "2019-10-18T21:32:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Don’t you mean “so-called berders”? So many of them that they will be able to construct a “so-called berder wall”. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37956 "2019-10-18T21:40:38Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > My impression of Rick Perry is that he’s the rare Republican who’s aware of his own limitations. His presidential bid suggests that you are mistaken. (Of course, so would an attempt to tie his own shoes, in my opinion.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37957 "2019-10-18T22:03:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > My impression of Rick Perry is that he’s the rare Republican who’s aware of his own limitations. > [@Balance](#): > > His presidential bid suggests that you are mistaken. (Of course, so would an attempt to tie his own shoes, in my opinion.) The most Rick has going for him is good hair. Probably the main reason FPT\* is done with him. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37958 "2019-10-18T23:43:33Z")
The central pillar of Trump’s 2020 campaign strategy has been debunked. [Maggie Haberman](https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1185325865082802180), _NYT_: > [@](#): > > State Department probe of Clinton emails finds no deliberate mishandling of classified information - The Washington Post > > The years-long inquiry is an anticlimactic end to a controversy that overshadowed the 2016 campaign. Never again will we hear Donald Trump complaining about Hillary’s emails. Nope, never. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37959 "2019-10-18T23:45:21Z")
Why WOULDN’T foreign leaders want to stay at Trump properties (aside from bedbugs and other health code violations)? It’s a relatively cheap way to get whatever you want from the fucking moron. And think of all the time and diplomacy it saves you. No wrangling, no concessions. Just give the American president some graft in the form of hotel rooms and meals (which you were going to have to pay for ANYWAY) and you get WHATEVER you want. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37960 "2019-10-18T23:48:39Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Why WOULDN’T foreign leaders want to stay at Trump properties (aside from bedbugs and other health code violations)? It’s a relatively cheap way to get whatever you want from the fucking moron. And think of all the time and diplomacy it saves you. No wrangling, no concessions. Just give the American president some graft in the form of hotel rooms and meals (which you were going to have to pay for ANYWAY) and you get WHATEVER you want. You [don’t even have to stay in them](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/trump-hotel-empty-rooms-016763). ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37961 "2019-10-19T01:15:29Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Why WOULDN’T foreign leaders want to stay at Trump properties (aside from bedbugs and other health code violations)? It’s a relatively cheap way to get whatever you want from the fucking moron. And think of all the time and diplomacy it saves you. No wrangling, no concessions. Just give the American president some graft in the form of hotel rooms and meals (which you were going to have to pay for ANYWAY) and you get WHATEVER you want. Bedbugs. Funny smells. Dirty toilets, possibly with turds left by earlier guests. Funky sheets. Really bad food…dysentery. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37962 "2019-10-19T01:19:12Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Why WOULDN’T foreign leaders want to stay at Trump properties (aside from bedbugs and other health code violations)? It’s a relatively cheap way to get whatever you want from the fucking moron. And think of all the time and diplomacy it saves you. No wrangling, no concessions. Just give the American president some graft in the form of hotel rooms and meals (which you were going to have to pay for ANYWAY) and you get WHATEVER you want. But it is “far and away” the best place for the summit. I looked it up on Best Hotels. It’s rated number 5 in Miami. Ok so it’s not crappy like some of his other places. But it is still number 5 in Miami. My brother tells me that June is a very slow month in Miami resorts, I don’t know why June would be slow. Maybe because people go to Miami in the winter? But anyway if that is true it’s goint to make a big difference financially. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37963 "2019-10-19T01:27:43Z")
There will also be months and months of advance teams, from all the countries, who will need to stay prior to the event. In addition, Rick Wilson (iirc) speculated that in addition to the above, two helipads will be needed to be built. Then taken down. Then the land placed back in the original condition. Wilson said that the only place open enough for helipads was the golf course. And that restoring the golf course means, at the end of all this grift, Trump will end up with a brand new course completely at taxpayers expense. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/37964 "2019-10-19T01:33:12Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The central pillar of Trump’s 2020 campaign strategy has been debunked. > > [Maggie Haberman](https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1185325865082802180), _NYT_: > > Never again will we hear Donald Trump complaining about Hillary’s emails. Nope, never. A few days ago I was reading the online comments to a Trump story, and some MAGAt said how he was looking forward to Friday and the release of the real true story. Life’s full if disappointments, isn’t it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1897) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1899)