# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/361 "2017-01-06T17:37:15Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Jim Crow laws were certainly state mandated racism. Not saying those are coming back but they serve as precedent.

Precise replicas of Jim Crow aren’t coming back, but trying to treat Latino or Muslim people differently is certainly not impossible. After all, Arizona just passed the “Papers, Please” law a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/362 "2017-01-06T21:45:31Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Precise replicas of Jim Crow aren’t coming back, but trying to treat Latino or Muslim people differently is certainly not impossible. After all, Arizona just passed the “Papers, Please” law a few years ago.

Getting zoning permission to build a mosque is significantly more difficult than getting zoning permission for a Christian church.

(There was an example, even here in liberal southern California, where a Krishnan church was held to a much higher standard than Christian churches nearby. Imagine trying to build a mosque in Mobile.)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/363 "2017-01-06T22:23:34Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Jim Crow laws were certainly state mandated racism. Not saying those are coming back but they serve as precedent.

There was never a state mandate to be a racist. You re thinking of state sanctioned racism. Not the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/364 "2017-01-06T22:40:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> State mandated racism, huh? That’s breaking new ground, ever for you **DT**. I’m wondering how that would work…

Rounding up and interning or killing people because of their race comes to mind. We’re putting neoNazis and their sympathizers into power; we know how such people act when they can. I expect the Republicans to go full Holocaust, eventually; except on a much larger scale and with nobody able to stop them.

I think the future of America is a racist theocracy with a collapsed economy, and maybe half the population it has now because the rest were expelled or killed. And the future of Mexico, South America and Africa is being radioactive wastelands after the Republicans bombard them to “purify the Earth of lesser, Satanic races”.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/365 "2017-01-06T22:52:48Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> …(There was an example, even here in liberal southern California, where a Krishnan church was held to a much higher standard than Christian churches nearby. Imagine trying to build a mosque in Mobile.)

Mildly confused, in that “Krishnan” implies Hindu to me.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/366 "2017-01-06T23:14:03Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Rounding up and interning or killing people because of their race comes to mind. We’re putting neoNazis and their sympathizers into power; we know how such people act when they can. I expect the Republicans to go full Holocaust, eventually; except on a much larger scale and with nobody able to stop them.
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> I think the future of America is a racist theocracy with a collapsed economy, and maybe half the population it has now because the rest were expelled or killed. And the future of Mexico, South America and Africa is being radioactive wastelands after the Republicans bombard them to “purify the Earth of lesser, Satanic races”.

You must be a ton of fun at parties…

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/367 "2017-01-06T23:27:49Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Rounding up and interning or killing people because of their race comes to mind. We’re putting neoNazis and their sympathizers into power; we know how such people act when they can. I expect the Republicans to go full Holocaust, eventually; except on a much larger scale and with nobody able to stop them.
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> I think the future of America is a racist theocracy with a collapsed economy, and maybe half the population it has now because the rest were expelled or killed. And the future of Mexico, South America and Africa is being radioactive wastelands after the Republicans bombard them to “purify the Earth of lesser, Satanic races”.

Goddamn that NeoNazi FDR for rounding up and interning the Japanese!!!

I posit that Der Trihs is a Repub plant sent to discredit the opposition. Or the 21st century L Ron Hubbard.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/368 "2017-01-06T23:33:41Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Mildly confused, in that “Krishnan” implies Hindu to me.

Here is the article.

> **[Hare Krishna temple may break ground in spring](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2003/10/02/hare-krishna-temple-may-break-ground-in-spring/)**
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> ESCONDIDO — Three years after filing plans with the city andnine months after receiving approval by the City Council,developers of a proposed Hare Krishna cultural center have yet tostart con…

The Hare Krishnas wanted to build much more than a temple (church).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/369 "2017-01-07T07:15:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Rounding up and interning or killing people because of their race comes to mind. We’re putting neoNazis and their sympathizers into power; we know how such people act when they can. I expect the Republicans to go full Holocaust, eventually; except on a much larger scale and with nobody able to stop them.
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> I think the future of America is a racist theocracy with a collapsed economy, and maybe half the population it has now because the rest were expelled or killed. And the future of Mexico, South America and Africa is being radioactive wastelands after the Republicans bombard them to “purify the Earth of lesser, Satanic races”.

Yeah, but what’s the worst case scenario?

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/370 "2017-01-07T10:51:16Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah, but what’s the worst case scenario?

Donald Trump?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/371 "2017-01-07T13:59:12Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> More likely, he can’t wait to say “You’re fired!”

I can’t think of any other reason.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/372 "2017-01-07T14:03:27Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> NPR has an article about it here: [Donald Trump Takes Credit For 8,000 New Jobs From Japanese Investor : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/12/28/507305600/trump-speaks-briefly-to-reporters-reversing-obama-criticism-and-touting-new-jobs?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2056)
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> So, I’m skeptical but reserving judgement. On the one hand, the new investment and jobs is of course good news. On the other, it’s unclear how much Trump really pulled the levers on this one and how much he’s taking credit for things already in progress for months. Also, it’s worrisome when a President makes personal deals with businesses and doesn’t disclose the terms. No transparency, no accountability, just shady cronyism. That’s not the way we ought to be doing things.

I’d expect he is just stealing credit for what someone else may or may not be doing. Par for the course.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/373 "2017-01-07T14:10:18Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I think the simpler, and more factually accurate explanation is that she is a weak candidate with some fatal flaws who ran a horrible campaign. I.e. she is a horrible candidate.

And that still doesn’t address an entire Republican party, full of weak candidates who couldn’t even (none of them) keep Donald Dump from hijacking their party and getting nominated. In other words, even if Hillary was terrible, all the Repubs were even worse and more horrible and incompetent.

But it doesn’t help that the Russians, the FBI director, Wikileaks’ Assange, and the fake news bunch kept piling on more bullshit while giving Trump a pass on everything that diarrheas out of his mouth… and all the dumb fucks that ate that shit up.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/374 "2017-01-07T14:11:56Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> So now he picks [Jay Clayton](http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/04/investing/jay-clayton-sec-trump/index.html?adkey=bn), best friend of Wall Street and large banks, to head the SEC. Refresh my memory: Wasn’t Hillary’s relationship with Wall Street constantly brought up during the election? Isn’t picking people like this what Trumpy Wumpy voters DIDN’T want?

He lied (again). Get used to it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/375 "2017-01-07T14:16:06Z")

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> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#):
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> About 70% of ambassadors are career diplomats (Foreign Service Officers) and not political appointments. It is moronic to do what Trump is doing. Previous administrations have given temporary extensions to the FSOs while cutting loose the political appointees. Many of the FSOs were then reconfirmed or shuffled around.

Everything he does looks moronic. I’m thinking my vey first observation was correct… he is trying to dismantle and sabotage the government, set it up for a complete breakdown, so he and his cronies can do more looting and power grabbing.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/376 "2017-01-07T15:58:57Z")

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Yeah, but her e-mails …

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/377 "2017-01-07T16:44:42Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Yeah, but her e-mails …

I think this may be the first post of yours with which I’ve agreed. I actually did lol.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/378 "2017-01-07T16:51:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah, but what’s the worst case scenario?

Nuclear war gives the cockroaches mutant powers.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/379 "2017-01-07T18:54:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Nuclear war gives the cockroaches mutant powers.

And makes them racists!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/380 "2017-01-07T18:56:04Z")

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Only the German cockroaches.

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