# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 190
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3781 "2017-05-01T13:25:26Z")
[Donald Trump slams ‘archaic’ US constitution that is ‘really bad’ for the country](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump has blamed the US constitution for the problems he has encountered during his first 100 days in office. > > In an interview with Fox News to mark the milestone, the Republican called the system of checks and balances on power “archaic”. > > “It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.” Who didn’t see this coming? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3782 "2017-05-01T13:42:18Z")
Dictator Don! You know what is really archaic though? The Bible. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3783 "2017-05-01T14:00:32Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > If only that were true. They are lazy and witless, but not ineffectual. As I have posted before in one of these Trump threads, his appointment of Gorsuch to the Supreme Court has fucked us up for probably the next several decades, so even if he doesn’t do anything else, he’s done more than enough. Trump had as much to do with selecting Gorsuch as he has to do with the rise and fall of tides. He was told who he’d be putting up for the job and the clueless idiot did as he was told. The bulk of the blame for Gorsuch lies with the republicans in congress and Trump’s rubes. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3784 "2017-05-01T14:14:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Donald Trump slams ‘archaic’ US constitution that is ‘really bad’ for the country](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html) > > Who didn’t see this coming? The almost 63 million people who voted for Trump not knowing or caring that he has only the most tenuous grasp on the reality of how governing works. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3785 "2017-05-01T14:20:52Z")
[The idiot thinks Andrew Jackson was sad to see the Civil War.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/01/trump-civil-war-why-worked-out.html) > [@](#): > > “I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn’t have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person but he had a big heart and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. He said ‘There’s no reason for this.’ People don’t realize, you know, the Civil War, you think about it, why? People don’t ask that question. But why was there a Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?” Slaveholding Indian genocider Andrew Jackson had a big heart. And he was sad to see what was happening 16 years after he died. Too bad there wasn’t a dealmaker in the White House then. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3786 "2017-05-01T14:21:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Donald Trump slams ‘archaic’ US constitution that is ‘really bad’ for the country](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html) > > Who didn’t see this coming? I’ll admit I didn’t quite believe it and had to [go find the clip for myself](http://www.salon.com/2017/05/01/donald-trump-doesnt-like-the-archaic-constitution-its-really-a-bad-thing-for-the-country/); I thought for sure it was from some sort of _Onion_ parody. It wasn’t. :smack::smack::smack: I notice that all the links to Trump’s statements on this subject seem to be from secondary sources; FOX itself does not seem to be playing this up. Too embarrassed, perhaps? Down with Emperor Trump. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3787 "2017-05-01T14:34:22Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Donald Trump slams ‘archaic’ US constitution that is ‘really bad’ for the country](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html) > > Who didn’t see this coming? Looks like the answer (besides **Stranger’s** ) is Andy Borowitz. [Trump Says He Has Been Treated Very Unfairly by People Who Wrote Constitution](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-been-treated-very-unfairly-by-people-who-wrote-constitution) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Hinting darkly that “there’s something going on,” Donald J. Trump complained on Friday that he has been treated “very unfairly” by the people who wrote the United States Constitution. > > “If the Constitution prevented me from doing one or two things, I’d chalk that up to bad luck,” he said. “But when literally everything I want to do is magically a violation of the Constitution, that’s very unfair and bad treatment.” > > Lashing out at the document’s authors, Trump said that “America is a great country, but we have maybe the worst constitution writers in the world.” ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3788 "2017-05-01T14:45:33Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Looks like the answer (besides **Stranger’s** ) is Andy Borowitz. > [Trump Says He Has Been Treated Very Unfairly by People Who Wrote Constitution](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-been-treated-very-unfairly-by-people-who-wrote-constitution) My history buff roommate says that the Constitution was written by geniuses to protect the country from idiots. We’re testing that now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3789 "2017-05-01T15:23:03Z")
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4emcNAf5lY) is a nine second clip that sums up perfectly how Trump sees the Presidency of the United States of America. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3790 "2017-05-01T15:27:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [The idiot thinks Andrew Jackson was sad to see the Civil War.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/01/trump-civil-war-why-worked-out.html) > > Slaveholding Indian genocider Andrew Jackson had a big heart. And he was sad to see what was happening 16 years after he died. Too bad there wasn’t a dealmaker in the White House then. Sad! People don’t ask why there was a Civil War. People don’t ask why it couldn’t have been worked out. But Trump asks those questions and comes up with the answer that it was because we lacked the vision of big-hearted Andrew Jackson. Of all of the things Trump has said, this one may be the most insanely delusional and egotistical. I’m pretty sure that lots of people before Trump have asked why there was a Civil War and if it could have been prevented. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3791 "2017-05-01T15:50:11Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I’ll admit I didn’t quite believe it and had to [go find the clip for myself](http://www.salon.com/2017/05/01/donald-trump-doesnt-like-the-archaic-constitution-its-really-a-bad-thing-for-the-country/); I thought for sure it was from some sort of _Onion_ parody. > > It wasn’t. :smack::smack::smack: > > I notice that all the links to Trump’s statements on this subject seem to be from secondary sources; FOX itself does not seem to be playing this up. Too embarrassed, perhaps? > > Down with Emperor Trump. To be fair – and, God, I hate to do this – the question and the first part of Trump’s answer were cut off in that clip. I’d like to hear a little more of the context. It sounded to me like he was talking about the “rules of the Senate”, by which he might have meant things like the filibuster and the various procedural rules. And some of the procedural rules are kind of fucked up. Trump has expressed disdain for, and misunderstanding of, the Constitution on any of a number of occasions. And he is truly a terrifying president. I’ve been in a fairly deep depression since he took office. So, I really really really hate to give him any benefit of the doubt. But I’m also trying to be fair-mined (as I know Fox news would be). So I think maybe casting this as “Trump calls the Constitution archaic and rough” might not be completely fair. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3792 "2017-05-01T16:05:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4emcNAf5lY) is a nine second clip that sums up perfectly how Trump sees the Presidency of the United States of America. Here’s a [seven-second clip](https://youtu.be/5bslu64OftQ) that summarizes how most of us see the current holder of that office. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3793 "2017-05-01T16:19:22Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Donald Trump slams ‘archaic’ US constitution that is ‘really bad’ for the country](https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-slams-apos-archaic-173108185.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > Donald Trump has blamed the US constitution for the problems he has encountered during his first 100 days in office. > > > > In an interview with Fox News to mark the milestone, the Republican called the system of checks and balances on power “archaic”. > > > > “It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.” > > Who didn’t see this coming? “The Constitution, Donald; you know, that thing you stood in front of 25 billion people and swore to uphold and defend.” ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3794 "2017-05-01T16:44:56Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Well, that is depressing. (Trump truly is parody-proof.) Trump is a walking talking lying avatar of [Poe’s Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law). No matter what you say about him the next day you find out that he’s getting peed on by Russian prostitutes or something. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3795 "2017-05-01T16:46:51Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The failing Donald Trump, who many are calling “Loser Donald”, had worst 100 days of any in our great history. This is unpresidented! SAD! Better watch out, now they are (according to Priebus) looking at changing the First Amendment (the free speech one). Interviewer: "Change the libel laws?” That would require, as I understand it, a constitutional amendment. Is he really going to pursue that? Is that something he wants to pursue? " White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus during an interview “I think it’s something that we’ve looked at. How that gets executed or whether that goes anywhere is a different story.” They’ll get ya. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3796 "2017-05-01T16:54:47Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Looks like the answer (besides **Stranger’s** ) is Andy Borowitz. > [Trump Says He Has Been Treated Very Unfairly by People Who Wrote Constitution](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-been-treated-very-unfairly-by-people-who-wrote-constitution) This is a guy who took an oath to preserve defend uphold blah blah blah the Constitution. I at least can say I didn’t vote for the fat fascist fuck stain. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3797 "2017-05-01T17:03:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Looks like the answer (besides **Stranger’s** ) is Andy Borowitz. > [Trump Says He Has Been Treated Very Unfairly by People Who Wrote Constitution](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-been-treated-very-unfairly-by-people-who-wrote-constitution) > > > [@](#): > > > > WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Hinting darkly that “there’s something going on,” Donald J. Trump complained on Friday that he has been treated “very unfairly” by the people who wrote the United States Constitution. > > > > “If the Constitution prevented me from doing one or two things, I’d chalk that up to bad luck,” he said. “But when literally everything I want to do is magically a violation of the Constitution, that’s very unfair and bad treatment.” > > > > Lashing out at the document’s authors, Trump said that **“America is a great country, but we have maybe the worst constitution writers in the world.** ” I am informed that Borowitz is up there with the Onion. I was about to propose that we send Donny on a fact-finding trip to some select countries with truly bad constitutions (or no constitutions) for comparisons. Darn it. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3798 "2017-05-01T17:17:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Looks like the answer (besides **Stranger’s** ) is Andy Borowitz. > [Trump Says He Has Been Treated Very Unfairly by People Who Wrote Constitution](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-been-treated-very-unfairly-by-people-who-wrote-constitution) Um… do you think Trump knows that the people who wrote the Constitution are dead? Like Frederick Douglass. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3799 "2017-05-01T17:25:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Um… do you think Trump knows that the people who wrote the Constitution are dead? > > Like Frederick Douglass. It’s quite doubtful. Our best hope is that he looks up at the sky with his mouth open during a rainstorm and drowns. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3800 "2017-05-01T17:33:45Z")
In its timely wisdom, The Atlantic has addressed the question, “Why Was There a Civil War?” The article begins: > [@](#): > > President Trump has peppered his first months in office with periodic announcements about the history of the nation he now leads, which he shares in the apparent presumption that others will be similarly amazed and astonished. In February, he marked Black History Month with a rambling speech, name-checking a variety of historical figures. “I am very proud now that we have a museum, National Mall, where people can learn about Reverend King, so many other things,” he said. “Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job that is being recognized more and more, I notice.” > > “Great president,” he told the congressional campaign committee of the Party of Lincoln back in March. “Most people don’t even know he was a Republican, right? Does anyone know?” > > But more striking than these episodes in the education of Donald Trump are the lessons he chooses to draw from these snippets of the past. On Monday, he was speaking to SiriusXM’s Salena Zito about his admiration for Andrew Jackson, a favorite theme of Steve Bannon’s, and veered dramatically off course: > > > [@](#): > > > > I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little later you wouldn’t have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said, “There’s no reason for this.” People don’t realize, you know, the Civil War, if you think about it, why? People don’t ask that question, but why was there a Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out? > > [For the rest of the article go here.](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/why-there-was-a-civil-war/524925/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29) Would someone kindly forward this link to The Donald? Probably should include a glossary listing the big words. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=189) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=191)