# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38005 "2019-10-20T13:52:15Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> How come we haven’t come up with a good nickname for this mess? I read “Stupid Watergate” the most, but that’s inelegant. With all the smart people and funny people who despise him, why can’t we (collectively, in general, not necessarily Dopers) come up with a witty, snappy title that covers it without using “-gate”? I mean, “clusterfuck” is an apt description but I don’t think that’s going to be chapter titles in future history books.

My nominee is “MeltdownGate” since a Constitutional crisis seems likely. The Constitution provides …ummm… _inadequate_ guidance for a scenario in which POTUS refuses to leave office after being convicted by the Senate. Sorry, we are stuck with the “…gate” construction.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38006 "2019-10-20T13:52:33Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump has issued a Presidential Proclamation for National “Character Counts Week” urging Americans to “positively influence the next generation of our Nation’s leaders and **inspire them to lead lives of virtue and integrity**.”
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> [https://twitter.com/ChrisJansing/status/1185513845160402947/photo/1](https://t.co/gt9dvGcwO6)

We’re trying, but not sure if the Senate will convict.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38007 "2019-10-20T13:58:31Z")

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Why do they have to commence a search for a new G7 site? I thought they already did a thorough search before choosing Trump’s site. Can’t they just go to number two on that very well researched, and totally not nonexistent, list?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38008 "2019-10-20T14:36:10Z")

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Because number two is Trump Tower, number three is the Trump Hotel in DC…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38009 "2019-10-20T14:42:39Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> why can’t we (collectively, in general, not necessarily Dopers) come up with a witty, snappy title that covers it without using “-gate”?

> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> Sorry, we are stuck with the “…gate” construction.

Ever since the Watergate scandal, every scandal (except Abscam) has been ‘something’-gate. It’s stupid and unimaginative. Sure the current situation is very reminiscent of the Watergate scandal, but I’m sick of everything being named ‘gate’.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38010 "2019-10-20T15:37:21Z")

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Does anyone else think that Trump was going to try to “accidentally” have Vlad visit that same weekend?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38011 "2019-10-20T15:41:01Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Ever since the Watergate scandal, every scandal (except Abscam) has been ‘something’-gate. It’s stupid and unimaginative. Sure the current situation is very reminiscent of the Watergate scandal, but I’m sick of everything being named ‘gate’.  
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What about Iran-Contra?

That would make this Moron-Contra.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38012 "2019-10-20T15:49:47Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “I got a call the other day from lawyers, top lawyers, very respected from the standpoint of legal, and they said ‘Sir, two years and nine months ago we never knew a president could do so much in terms of impeach’.”

😃

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38013 "2019-10-20T15:51:14Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> We’re trying, but not sure if the Senate will convict.

They won’t, but fuck them. Democrats are going to do what’s right and called for (hopefully) and history will be the judge.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38014 "2019-10-20T16:57:53Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Why do they have to commence a search for a new G7 site? I thought they already did a thorough search before choosing Trump’s site. Can’t they just go to number two on that very well researched, and totally not nonexistent, list?

They did. They thoroughly searched Doral and only found a few dozen bedbugs, at which point they concluded that it was perfect — in fact, the perfectest — and declared the search over.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38015 "2019-10-20T17:46:27Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I would think that Chris Christie is one happy motherfucker right about now, possibly the happiest Republican in America. Talk about dodging a bullet!

No kidding!!!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38016 "2019-10-20T17:47:54Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> “I much prefer a Holiday Inn. And the foods better.”

" … and there are no bedbugs … "

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38017 "2019-10-20T17:50:04Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> If y’all recall, Trump floated this idea right after the secret, 90-minute Helsinki meeting with Putin.
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> [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753)

You mean the first gigantic and obvious instance of selling us out.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38018 "2019-10-20T17:51:24Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> My impression of Rick Perry is that he’s the rare Republican who’s aware of his own limitations.

But he’s still a scumbag.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38019 "2019-10-20T17:52:39Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Never again will we hear Donald Trump complaining about Hillary’s emails. Nope, never.

Hahahahahahaha! Dreamer. 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38020 "2019-10-20T17:55:32Z")

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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> Heh. That would be a unique defense. “There can be no quid pro quo because everyone knows Trump is going to renege anyway.”

At this point, with what everyone knows about Trump’s entire life of reneging and fucking partners/employees/everyone over, ANYONE who tries to make a “deal” with him, expecting to get the pro quo for his quid, deserves every bad thing that happens to them.

Stupidity should be painful.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38021 "2019-10-20T17:56:35Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I do hope that’s the end of Mike Pompeo’s job. He and Mick Mulvaney can commiserate.

… in a prison cell.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38022 "2019-10-20T17:56:42Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> …which they could all do somewhere else in a [del]No Homers[/del] G6 meeting, held at the same time. It’d be a massive snub to Trump and the US but frankly it’s not like Trump has been terribly polite to any of the other G7 leaders previously. And they might like to be able to have a grown-up conversation without Trump or his handbag-designer daughter in the room.

Please. That’s handbag design rip-off artist daughter.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38023 "2019-10-20T18:40:21Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Does anyone else think that Trump was going to try to “accidentally” have Vlad visit that same weekend?

Can’t tell you where I read it, but he’s already said that.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38024 "2019-10-20T18:42:19Z")

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China issues several more trademarks to the Trump Organization, including massage parlors and escort services.

> **[China just approved Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services and massage...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-massage-parlours-a7619136.html)**
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> Preliminary approval has been granted for 38 trademarks which raises further questions about conflicts of interest

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