# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1902
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38025 "2019-10-20T19:36:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > China issues several more trademarks to the Trump Organization, including massage parlors and escort services. > [China approves Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services, hotels and massage parlours without US Congress permission | The Independent | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html) Good. Next time I’m in Beijing and need to blow off a little steam (that humidity!) there’s always the corner TrumpSluts. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38026 "2019-10-20T20:03:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Can’t tell you where I read it, but he’s already said that. Perhaps he got the idea from when he invited the family of a murder victim to meet with the murderer (who is actively hiding behind a shield of diplomatic immunity) so they could all hug it out and make up? [https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38027 "2019-10-20T20:07:42Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Perhaps he got the idea from when he invited the family of a murder victim to meet with the murderer (who is actively hiding behind a shield of diplomatic immunity) so they could all hug it out and make up? > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/) As poorly as that was done, it actually could have been amusing had he offered the parents diplomatic immunity before telling them that she was in the next room. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38028 "2019-10-20T20:27:00Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > No kidding!!! I kinda suspect Perry somehow sees himself getting set up by this administration and wants out before he gets embarrassed. Perry may sound like a dumb backwoods Texan, but you don’t win in Texas politics by being a moron. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38029 "2019-10-20T20:29:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I kinda suspect Perry somehow sees himself getting set up by this administration and wants out before he gets embarrassed. Perry may sound like a dumb backwoods Texan, but you don’t win in Texas politics by being a moron. Ted Cruz. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38030 "2019-10-20T20:34:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Can’t tell you where I read it, but he’s already said that. Didn’t realize that. I mean - he couldn’t really think that Vladdy crashing the conference could possibly be doable, right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38031 "2019-10-20T20:35:59Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Ted Cruz. :dubious: Ted Cruz may be a reptile, but he’s an intelligent reptile. It’s just that sometimes he’s too reptilian even by Texas rattlesnake standards. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38032 "2019-10-20T20:40:22Z")
I’m no fan of Ted Cruz, but he received a BA in public policy from Princeton and a JD from Harvard. Meanwhile Perry has a BS in animal science from Texas A&M. Advantage: Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38033 "2019-10-20T20:56:02Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Perhaps he got the idea from when he invited the family of a murder victim to meet with the murderer (who is actively hiding behind a shield of diplomatic immunity) so they could all hug it out and make up? > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/) If the parties were reversed, you’d be railing against your opponents for using this verbiage. Trump’s Jerry Springer-ish stunt was unbecoming a third-grader, but (a) every homicide is not a murder and (b) as the wife of a diplomat, she had no choice but to return when recalled. Maybe she is hiding; maybe she wants to cooperate, but diplomatic immunity is a game played by all parties in all countries. And it sucks for outsiders who get caught in it. It’s a political issue, but it’s not a R v D political issue. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38034 "2019-10-20T21:02:50Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I kinda suspect Perry somehow sees himself getting set up by this administration and wants out before he gets embarrassed… Too late. And really, anyone that joined this administration was embarrassed the moment they took the job. Really, the country and world would be better off it Trump was rambling around alone in the White House trying to figure out how to turn the lights on. Shit, stick him in a Mc’D.s that has a TV. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38035 "2019-10-20T21:28:52Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Too late. And really, anyone that joined this administration was embarrassed the moment they took the job. > > Really, the country and world would be better off it Trump was rambling around alone in the White House trying to figure out how to turn the lights on. > > Shit, stick him in a Mc’D.s that has a TV. Problem solved. A TV _and_ no staff. He’d either starve or self-immolate in the deep fryer. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38036 "2019-10-20T21:34:19Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > A TV _and_ no staff. He’d either starve or self-immolate in the deep fryer. Please take this the right way. A Mc’Ds staffed with immigrants. Let his tiny mind try to figure that out. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38037 "2019-10-20T21:40:46Z")
Someplace I read that one reason he likes to eat fast food is that he thinks it’s less likely to be messed with (spit in or whatever), presumably when those making it don’t know who the food is going to. So I’m trying to imagine what would happen to his food in a McDonald’s staffed by immigrants who know they’re preparing food for him. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38038 "2019-10-20T23:44:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Someplace I read that one reason he likes to eat fast food is that he thinks it’s less likely to be messed with (spit in or whatever), presumably when those making it don’t know who the food is going to. \*\*So I’m trying to imagine what would happen to his food \*\*in a McDonald’s staffed by immigrants who know they’re preparing food for him. Why limit it to immigrants? In any case, what would happen would probably obviate the need for House impeachment and Senate trial… > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Ever since the Watergate scandal, every scandal (except Abscam) has been ‘something’-gate. It’s stupid and unimaginative. Sure the current situation is very reminiscent of the Watergate scandal, but I’m sick of everything being named ‘gate’. How about _ **Grifterpalooza** _? Or, referring to Trump’s entire time in the Presidency: _ **Taint-Term** _. my emphasis in quote ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38039 "2019-10-21T00:00:53Z")
I suppose we could brand this whole situation a “Clustertrump” > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > China issues several more trademarks to the Trump Organization, including massage parlors and escort services. > [China approves Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services, hotels and massage parlours without US Congress permission | The Independent | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html) Like Hell I’m hitting a Donald J Clusterfucker-branded escort service or rub-n-tug. They’ll take my money and walk away w/o delivering. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38040 "2019-10-21T00:02:47Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I suppose we could brand this whole situation a “Clustertrump” > Like Hell I’m hitting a Donald J Clusterfucker-branded escort service or rub-n-tug. > They’ll take my money and walk away w/o delivering. So you stiff them first. :flees: ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38041 "2019-10-21T00:45:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > China issues several more trademarks to the Trump Organization, including massage parlors and escort services. > [China approves Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services, hotels and massage parlours without US Congress permission | The Independent | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html) I wonder what’s happened in the 2 1/2 years since that was written. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38042 "2019-10-21T01:49:23Z")
“Grabbergate” might work as a name for this scandal masquerading as a presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38043 "2019-10-21T01:49:49Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > I wonder what’s happened in the 2 1/2 years since that was written. Rick, I appreciate the digging in the dirt you do - but it might be time to once again put date stamps on your posts that are links to news articles. That discipline did wonders for keeping your stuff current. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38044 "2019-10-21T02:35:12Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > I wonder what’s happened in the 2 1/2 years since that was written. Dammit. I apologize. It just showed up in my facebook feed this morning. And for some reason, I neglected to read the date. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1901) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1903)