# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38065 "2019-10-22T02:29:15Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> HE has the economy?
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> _SEXUAL ASSAULT!_

That’s right! No doubt he grapped it by the p~!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38066 "2019-10-22T02:54:45Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> George Washington had two desks. One for Presidentin’ and one for businessin’.

That’s nothing. I hear [he had two sets of testicles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc) and, like, thirty goddamn dicks.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38067 "2019-10-22T03:32:26Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> That’s nothing. I hear [he had two sets of testicles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc) and, like, thirty goddamn dicks.

I thought there were only 12 in his cabinet?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38068 "2019-10-22T13:27:36Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Heck, Miami isn’t even in the top 10 busiest airports in the US (by passenger volume), much less the world.
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> “Some people” indeed. :smack:

One person; I’ll leave it as an exercise as to who.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38069 "2019-10-22T20:21:01Z")

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Iraq says US troops leaving Syria can not stay in Iraq.

> **[Iraq: American troops leaving Syria cannot stay in Iraq](https://apnews.com/825fb065d6f044a590a1fee8101a5a26)**
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> BAGHDAD (AP) — U.S. troops leaving Syria and heading to neighboring Iraq do not have permission to stay in the country, Iraq's military said Tuesday as American forces continued to pull out of northern Syria after Turkey's invasion of the border...

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38070 "2019-10-22T20:28:55Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Heck, Miami isn’t even in the top 10 busiest airports in the US (by passenger volume), much less the world.
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> “Some people” indeed. :smack:

And why would anyone want their conference/summit anywhere Near a large and busy airport?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38071 "2019-10-22T21:13:40Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> And why would anyone want their conference/summit anywhere Near a large and busy airport?

Same reason some people think putting catsup on a well-done filet mignon is bigly perfect.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38072 "2019-10-22T21:31:11Z")

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I saw a headline on Twitter - a link to a RawStory\* feed - that KellyAnn Conway is being considered as the next Chief of Staff in the wake of Mulvaney’s “quid pro quo disaster.” Good thing anonymous authors don’t have to do book tours. Where would she find the time?

\*I’ll dig up the cite if I must.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38073 "2019-10-22T21:34:12Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> And why would anyone want their conference/summit anywhere Near a large and busy airport?

To minimize transit time and to make it accessible to attendees. Why \* wouldn’t\* anyone want this?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38074 "2019-10-22T21:40:42Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I saw a headline on Twitter - a link to a RawStory\* feed - that KellyAnn Conway is being considered as the next Chief of Staff in the wake of Mulvaney’s “quid pro quo disaster.” Good thing anonymous authors don’t have to do book tours. Where would she find the time?
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> \*I’ll dig up the cite if I must.

Yeah. I can’t help but feel like the Conways are running a grift on top of the grift.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38075 "2019-10-22T22:32:39Z")

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Lol, that’s what I tweeted to George Conway earlier today:

"Not really.

They should stop trying to profit from all this… like you and your wife… and should just Speak to Power without trying to grift and grift and grift."

> <https://twitter.com/JohnT15/status/1186720179448877056?s=19>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38076 "2019-10-22T23:28:55Z")

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[Loser Donald wanted Ukraine’s president to do a live interview on CNN to say he was investigating Joe Biden.](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-wanted-ukraine-president-to-do-a-cnn-interview-on-camera-to-say-he-was-investigating-the-bidens/)

It boggles the mind just how flagrant his criminality has been.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38077 "2019-10-22T23:42:46Z")

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“Fake News” CNN. Perfect.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38078 "2019-10-23T09:27:19Z")

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> [@Ruken](#):
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> To minimize transit time and to make it accessible to attendees. Why \* wouldn’t\* anyone want this?

To be fair, most conferences don’t require a massive ring of security around the conference site and for local airports to be shut down or flight paths altered due to the nature of the attendees.

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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38079 "2019-10-23T09:46:02Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> To be fair, most conferences don’t require a massive ring of security around the conference site and for local airports to be shut down or flight paths altered due to the nature of the attendees.

… and it’s not just air travel that’s affected; try to drive anywhere near the UN Building in Manhattan when heads of state are present, and you’re in for a _loooooong_ day, f’rinstance. Especially in anything larger than a sedan.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38080 "2019-10-23T14:53:42Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> … and it’s not just air travel that’s affected; try to drive anywhere near the UN Building in Manhattan when heads of state are present, and you’re in for a _loooooong_ day, f’rinstance. Especially in anything larger than a sedan.

It’s really not that bad. My wife and I stayed at the Millennium UN Plaza during our honeymoon when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was staying there (in fact, the same week when he gave [this speech](https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/world/24nations.html)) and the only visible security was _inside_ the hotel (we had to pass through metal detectors and bag scanners every time we entered the lobby, which was a bit annoying for two smokers).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38081 "2019-10-23T17:50:14Z")

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[Trump charges for Irish coffee](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-resort-sticks-irish-cops-with-a-massive-bill-after-they-were-forced-to-help-guard-the-president-there/).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38082 "2019-10-23T17:59:42Z")

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10/23/2019  
Individual 1 lawyer literally tell federal judges that a president can murder somebody and can’t be charged as long as he’s in office.

> **[Trump lawyer: Trump can’t be prosecuted for shooting someone](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/trump-lawyer-prosecuted-shooting-someone-055648)**
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> The exchange came as lawyers were arguing in the 2nd Circuit in New York over a subpoena for Trump’s tax returns.

OCTOBER 23, 2019  
On October 3, Individual 1 said that he had spoken to Moscow Mitch about the Ukraine phone call, and Mitch said, ‘That was the most innocent phone call that I’ve read.’ Mitch says there was no such conversation.

> **[McConnell denies telling Trump his Ukraine call was "innocent"](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/mitch-mcconnell-denies-telling-trump-ukraine-phone-call-was-innocent-or-perfect/)**
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> Asked if the president was lying about the interaction, McConnell replied, "You'd have to ask him"

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38083 "2019-10-23T19:03:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 10/23/2019  
> Individual 1 lawyer literally tell federal judges that a president can murder somebody and can’t be charged as long as he’s in office.  
> [https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/trump-lawyer-prosecuted-shooting-someone-055648](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/trump-lawyer-prosecuted-shooting-someone-055648)

That is so outrageous. So such a president could not only not be charged but couldn’t even be contained to protect the public? That’s what I take away from that interpretation. Which is ridiculous on its face.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38084 "2019-10-23T19:04:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It’s really not that bad. My wife and I stayed at the Millennium UN Plaza …

I was going to nitpick your spelling of the hotel, but it looks like they’ve changed it. It used to be the Millenium Hotel.

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