# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1913
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38245 "2019-10-28T15:07:47Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Whatever al-Baghdadi’s importance, he was - and I am being very, very generous here - maybe one hundredth as notorious in the USA as Obama bin Laden. If on Friday you’d gone around asking random Americans “who is the leader of ISIS?” or “Who is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?” fewer than one in ten would have answered either question correctly. I doubt one person in a hundred could have named him if shown a photograph. > > No President would have gotten the same applause for killing this ISIS guy that any President would have gotten for killing bin Laden. And that was the point too, trump’s demands for recognition are even sillier when taking what you said into account. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38246 "2019-10-28T15:13:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Al Bag-Daddy? Never heard of him. Al Big Daddy, King of the Beatniks. He may have been a little before your time. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38247 "2019-10-28T15:24:35Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > AFAIK the Bin Laden raid gave us lots of intelligence and helped prevent other planned attacks, I expect that this raid gave us something similar. Maybe he had The Server! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38248 "2019-10-28T15:30:12Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Fuck John Kelly. According to the cite, he regrets he’s not still enabling Trump, he regrets that Trump is going to be impeached, and he’s speaking at some right wingnut get-together that also features Devin Nunes and Sarah Huckabee Sanders. He’s a disgrace to his former uniform. > > ETA: oh yeah, and he’s now making big bucks on migrant “housing facilities,” which last seen had children sleeping on concrete floors. But at least now, we know what a slimy piece of shit he was all along. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38249 "2019-10-28T15:33:28Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > On Saturday, an even more interesting [response](https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=748) from the Chairs of the three house committees. They really need to start locking these assholes up for obstruction and contempt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38250 "2019-10-28T15:37:10Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I love how Trump says the reason he didn’t tell the Democratic Senate leaders about the raid (but told the Republicans. And the _Russians_) because he was afraid of security leaks, then does this: > > [After decrying leaks, Trump shares sensitive details on Baghdadi raid](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/after-decrying-leaks-trump-shares-sensitive-details-baghdadi-raid#break) > … From that link, as quoted in a prior post: > [@](#): > > And third, as part of the same White House event in which he suggested Democrats might not be trustworthy to be discrete with sensitive intelligence… Shame on you, MSNBC-- the correct word is “discreet.” :smack: You can’t rely on spellchecker for everything. You actually have to be familiar with the language. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38251 "2019-10-28T15:41:40Z")
A sidebar on Arab naming conventions: why is this guy “al-Baghdadi” but we never called Saddam Hussein “al-Tikriti”? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38252 "2019-10-28T15:48:35Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > A sidebar on Arab naming conventions: why is this guy “al-Baghdadi” but we never called Saddam Hussein “al-Tikriti”? “Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi” is a nom de guerre. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38253 "2019-10-28T19:25:27Z")
I have to admit, when I first heard the phrase “al-Baghdadi raid”, I assumed it was an attack in a suburb of Baghdad. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38254 "2019-10-28T20:08:14Z")
[quote=“CalMeacham, post:38239, topic:774070”] I love how Trump says the reason he didn’t tell the Democratic Senate leaders about the raid (but told the Republicans. And the _Russians_) because he was afraid of security leaks, then does this: > **[After decrying leaks, Trump shares sensitive details on Baghdadi raid](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/after-decrying-leaks-trump-shares-sensitive-details-baghdadi-raid-msna1296181)** > > For Trump to divulge operational details was unsettling. For him to do so while complaining about leaks was ridiculous. All I could think of was the scene from **Airplane** : [/QUOTE] That Trump is being completely illogical is exactly the point. He’s making it abundantly clear that he’d sooner speak with Vladimir Putin than Adam Schiff or Speaker Pelosi, that he’s closer and more willing to collaborate to someone considered to be an adversary and national security threat than the Speaker of the House and intel committee members. And anyone who thinks that the Russian Federation doesn’t now have all kinds of unfettered access and insight into our national security apparatus is seriously naive and deluding themselves. Anyone who who thinks that the Russian government isn’t actually a real force exerting real pressure on pesky career national security officials who have been trying to keep Putin confined for years is also deluded. I don’t think the severity of this development can be overstated. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38255 "2019-10-29T02:14:56Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Naw, it’s close to Baltimore, home of the Orioles and the crowd thought he was their beloved [Boog Powell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boog_Powell#/media/File:Boog_Powell_at_the_Annapolis_Book_Festival.JPG). “Bo-o-o-o-g!” I once waited in a checkout line behind Boog. He’s about the same height (Trump _claims_ he’s 6’3") and weight as Trump (both well into the mid/high 200+ lbs.) with hair about the same color. Pence probably played the Smithers role at the game. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38256 "2019-10-29T05:10:30Z")
October 28, 2019 Joint Chiefs of Staff chief Mark Milley doesn’t know where Individual 1 got the “crying and screaming” stuff from. [Pentagon Leader Doesn’t Know Where Trump Got ISIS Leader’s ‘Whimpering And Crying’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mark-milley-pentagon-trump-baghdadi-whimpering-crying)? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38257 "2019-10-29T08:05:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > October 28, 2019 > Joint Chiefs of Staff chief Mark Milley doesn’t know where Individual 1 got the “crying and screaming” stuff from. > [Pentagon Leader Doesn’t Know Where Trump Got ISIS Leader’s ‘Whimpering And Crying’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mark-milley-pentagon-trump-baghdadi-whimpering-crying)? Projection again, since that’s what King Cannot would do in a similar situation. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38258 "2019-10-29T09:35:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > October 28, 2019 > Joint Chiefs of Staff chief Mark Milley doesn’t know where Individual 1 got the “crying and screaming” stuff from. > [Pentagon Leader Doesn’t Know Where Trump Got ISIS Leader’s ‘Whimpering And Crying’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mark-milley-pentagon-trump-baghdadi-whimpering-crying)? You know, I like this change in media directions I think I’ve been seeing over the last few months - instead of merely reporting Trump’s bullshit, now they immediately follow-up with “btw not that it really bears mentioning at this point, but it is factually not true what the orange person said, says person who was there or actually knows what the fuck they’re talking about”. Refreshing bit of editorial backbone after decades of non-committal, clickbaity, all-opinions-equally-valid, truth-in-the-middle corporate-driven ditchwater. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38259 "2019-10-29T13:42:39Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > You know, I like this change in media directions I think I’ve been seeing over the last few months - instead of merely reporting Trump’s bullshit, now they immediately follow-up with “btw not that it really bears mentioning at this point, but it is factually not true what the orange person said, says person who was there or actually knows what the fuck they’re talking about”. > Refreshing bit of editorial backbone after decades of non-committal, clickbaity, all-opinions-equally-valid, truth-in-the-middle corporate-driven ditchwater. No kidding! It’s about G-D time! They should have been doing this from the beginning, but for months even the MSM gave him the benefit of the doubt. The next step is to call what he says **A LIE** every time, not some stupid multi-syllable euphemism. The man is a fucking LIAR. Period. On every subject, even when there’s no reason to lie. \*For those into the Enneagram, he is a bottom-of-the-barrel type 3. \* ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38260 "2019-10-29T14:23:30Z")
“He has Bagdaddi issues!” Somebody said that. Not me, I would never stoop to such a cheap and tawdry pun, I’m just reporting that somebody said that. Maybe it was **Vinny.** ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38261 "2019-10-29T14:31:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “He has Bagdaddi issues!” > > Somebody said that. Not me, I would never stoop to such a cheap and tawdry pun, I’m just reporting that somebody said that. Maybe it was **Vinny.** Steve Colbert in last night’s monologue. Maybe others since it’s an obvious joke. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38262 "2019-10-29T14:36:47Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Here is an explanation of the rapid identification - [How U.S. Commandos IDed a ‘Mutilated’ Baghdadi So Quickly](https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-us-commandos-ided-a-mutilated-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-so-quickly?ref=home). With suicide vests, what often happens is that the body gets utterly destroyed while the head gets separated from the body and blown clear, as do the hands and feet. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38263 "2019-10-29T15:29:04Z")
The Onion: WASHINGTON—As a chorus of jeers began to fill Nationals Park during Game Five of the World Series, President Donald Trump was reportedly mortified Sunday after the crowd started chanting “Lock him up!” at first lady Melania Trump. > **[Trump Mortified After World Series Crowd Starts Booing, Chanting ‘Lock Him...](https://www.theonion.com/trump-mortified-after-world-series-crowd-starts-booing-1839417630)** > > WASHINGTON—As a chorus of jeers began to fill Nationals Park during Game Five of the World Series, President Donald Trump was reportedly mortified Sunday after the crowd started chanting “Lock him up!” at first lady Melania Trump. “Why would they do... ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38264 "2019-10-29T15:30:54Z")
I may missed it, but has Kellyanne Conway told us yet that the booing of Trump at the World Series was, in fact (hah!), “alternative cheering”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1912) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1914)