# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1928
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38545 "2019-11-06T19:46:41Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > In other news, the lady who lost her job for flipping off Trump, just got elected to public office. > > EXCELLENT!!! Even better, she won election to the Loudon County Board of Supervisors, which has authority over the area where the Trump National Golf Club is located.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38546 "2019-11-06T20:35:41Z")
[Aaron Blake](https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1192176626089500672), _The Washington Post_: > [@](#): > > Trump’s allies like to pretend stuff like buying Greenland is just him trolling all of us. > > Taylor says (under oath) that it “took up a lot of energy” on National Security Council. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38547 "2019-11-06T21:14:03Z")
[Kentucky Republican Asks for Vote Recanvass As Democrats Claim Mandate](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/politics/kentucky-governor-virginia-election.html) > [@](#): > > Gov. Matt Bevin of Kentucky, the Republican seeking re-election, formally asked state officials to undertake a check and recanvass of the voting machines and absentee ballots in the race, citing “irregularities” without providing details. The Democratic candidate, Andy Beshear, has claimed victory with a lead of about 5,100 votes, or about 0.4 percent of ballots cast. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38548 "2019-11-06T21:21:12Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > [Kentucky Republican Asks for Vote Recanvass As Democrats Claim Mandate](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/politics/kentucky-governor-virginia-election.html) [Kentucky Republicans taking steps to outright steal governor’s election they just lost](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897609/-Kentucky-Republicans-taking-steps-to-outright-steal-governor-s-election-they-just-lost) > [@](#): > > As the Louisville Courier-Journal reports, the Republican president of the Kentucky Senate has already started looking into how they could contest the election and throw it to a vote in the GOP-dominated state House of Representatives. Under Kentucky state law, the elections are certified by a state board of elections… However, he could also contest the election. In that case, it would be up to a vote of the House and Senate to decide the winner. And in both chambers, Republicans have a majority… > > Stivers seems prepared to argue that Bevin is the real winner because 2% of the vote went to the Libertarian candidate. And if there had been no Libertarian candidate, “most of those votes … would have gone to Bevin.”… > > Republicans… could just steal the Libertarian votes, give them to Bevin, declare him the winner, and call it a day. And when they’re done, Trump will probably give them a tweet of congratulations. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38549 "2019-11-06T21:30:34Z")
> [@Every Republican Ever in 2016](#): > > You lost, get over it. Oh, how times have changed. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38550 "2019-11-06T22:10:32Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Kentucky Republicans taking steps to outright steal governor’s election they just lost](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897609/-Kentucky-Republicans-taking-steps-to-outright-steal-governor-s-election-they-just-lost) Can that Kentucky law possibly be constitutional? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38551 "2019-11-06T22:53:49Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > That could be symptomatic of people showing up for the sole purpose of voting against Blevins/Trump personally. Which would not surprise me. He is now refusing to concede and is calling for a recount. MEANWHILE… [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-diplomat-in-ukraine-directly-ties-trump-to-quid-pro-quo/ar-AAJXs9b?ocid=spartandhp](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-diplomat-in-ukraine-directly-ties-trump-to-quid-pro-quo/ar-AAJXs9b?ocid=spartandhp) > [@](#): > > The top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, Bill Taylor, told House impeachment investigators last month that President Donald Trump directed officials to tie military aid to Ukraine to demands that the country open political advantageous probes, according to a transcript of his testimony made public Wednesday. > The transcript of Taylor’s closed-door testimony before the three House committees leading the impeachment inquiry into Trump — the latest in a series of witness transcripts made public — confirms NBC News’ reporting about his more than nine hours of testimony last month. It also contains new details about the language he used in describing the White House’s attempted quid pro quo with Ukraine that shed light on his level of concern about the matter. … > the military aid to Ukraine had been directly tied to Ukraine opening investigations into the Burisma energy company — the Ukrainian gas company whose board of directors Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden joined in 2014 — as well as a conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election. > “That was my clear understanding, security assistance money would not come until the president [of Ukraine] committed to pursue the investigation,” Taylor said, according to the transcript. > He was then asked if he was “aware that quid pro quo literally means this for that?” > “I am,” Taylor replied. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38552 "2019-11-06T22:58:10Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Oh, how times have changed. Fuck 'em all. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38553 "2019-11-06T23:09:57Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Oh, how times have changed. Just another one of a billion examples of banana Republican hypocrisy. Any more I’m surprised when they don’t do something hypocritical. I was considering starting a thread like Stupid Republican Idea of the Day asking for examples of banana Republican hypocrisy, but I didn’t want to kill the hamsters. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38554 "2019-11-06T23:26:34Z")
Lindsay Graham has now pivoted to “The Individual 1 administration is too incompetent to do impeachable things.” > > > Steven Portnoy @stevenportnoy ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38555 "2019-11-06T23:31:02Z")
Well, it’s hard to argue against that point. To go on and say “I fully support the incompetent moron in the White House,” however, would lead one to question his judgment. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38556 "2019-11-06T23:37:17Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Well, it’s hard to argue against that point. I can argue that point. It’s like saying that the reason he shouldn’t be punished for the crimes he knowingly did is because he’s not competent enough to have committed the crimes which he knowingly did. And I say it’s like that, because it’s _exactly_ that. It’s not a plea of ignorance. It’s a plea of “please pretend it didn’t happen, because we’re appealing to your low opinion of him”. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38557 "2019-11-07T00:03:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Kentucky Republicans taking steps to outright steal governor’s election they just lost](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897609/-Kentucky-Republicans-taking-steps-to-outright-steal-governor-s-election-they-just-lost) We win elections the old-fashioned way: we steal them! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38558 "2019-11-07T00:18:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I can argue that point. It’s like saying that the reason he shouldn’t be punished for the crimes he knowingly did is because he’s not competent enough to have committed the crimes which he knowingly did. > > And I say it’s like that, because it’s _exactly_ that. > > It’s not a plea of ignorance. It’s a plea of “please pretend it didn’t happen, because we’re appealing to your low opinion of him”. Heh. > [@From that Twitter feed](#): > > That is my DUI defense: > > Your honor, I was too incoherent and incapable to drive a motor vehicle…oh wait, this is not helping is it. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38559 "2019-11-07T00:22:08Z")
" Any more I’m surprised when they don’t do something hypocritical." I know this is the pit but I’m gonna have ask to see a cite. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38560 "2019-11-07T00:50:39Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > " Any more I’m surprised when they don’t do something hypocritical." > > I know this is the pit but I’m gonna have ask to see a cite. You want a cite for whether they’re surprised or not? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38561 "2019-11-07T00:59:53Z")
Sorry, poorly written. A cite for doing something that isn’t hypocritical. I actually think, the way the republican party has been operating these past 3 years, a non-hypocritical action, would be hard to find. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38562 "2019-11-07T01:18:04Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Lindsay Graham has now pivoted to “The Individual 1 administration is too incompetent to do impeachable things.” > [https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1192134841736802304](https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1192134841736802304) The new defense of trump is that he’s too incompetent to do anything. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38563 "2019-11-07T01:34:28Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Rick Kitchen** > Lindsay Graham has now pivoted to “The Individual 1 administration is too incompetent to do impeachable things.” > [https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1192134841736802304](https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1192134841736802304) > [@HelenGawn](#): > > The new defense of trump is that he’s too incompetent to do anything. Jesus Christ. That is seriously what they’re going with now. Seriously. Lindsay Fucking Graham. Chair of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. Says ON FUCKING VIDEO that : “What I can tell you about the Trump policy toward Ukraine: It was incoherent, it depends on who you talk to, they seem to be incapable of forming a quid pro quo,…” MAN UP GRAHAM! If Trump’s policy is incoherent, if he is incapable of forming a coherent thought, then THINK OF THE COUNTRY FIRST, for God’s sake! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38564 "2019-11-07T01:35:38Z")
[Loser Donald wanted Barr to hold a press conference to declare that he was innocent, and Barr refused.](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-wanted-bill-barr-to-hold-a-news-conference-saying-he-wasnt-a-crook-but-the-ag-said-no/) Only a matter of time now before Barr gets fired by tweet and the Loser goes on to declare he “doesn’t know anything about him” and that he was “totally unqualified”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1927) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1929)