# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38565 "2019-11-07T02:10:06Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> [Loser Donald wanted Barr to hold a press conference to declare that he was innocent, and Barr refused.](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-wanted-bill-barr-to-hold-a-news-conference-saying-he-wasnt-a-crook-but-the-ag-said-no/)
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> Only a matter of time now before Barr gets fired by tweet and the Loser goes on to declare he “doesn’t know anything about him” and that he was “totally unqualified”.

[Say hello to your new Attorney General](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-prays-against-presidents-opponents-suggests-they-operate-1470197)

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38566 "2019-11-07T02:27:26Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> " Any more I’m surprised when they don’t do something hypocritical."
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> I know this is the pit but I’m gonna have ask to see a cite.

I suppose I should have said, "I would be surprised if they did something that wasn’t hypocritical.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38567 "2019-11-07T04:04:59Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Say hello to your new Attorney General](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-prays-against-presidents-opponents-suggests-they-operate-1470197)

I assumed Ms. White was more interested in getting appointed Witchfinder General than the AG spot.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38568 "2019-11-07T04:13:43Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> MEANWHILE…

Did you say that in Stephen Colbert’s voice, or is it just me who now and forever will hear it so?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38569 "2019-11-07T05:10:15Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> [Loser Donald wanted Barr to hold a press conference to declare that he was innocent, and Barr refused.](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-wanted-bill-barr-to-hold-a-news-conference-saying-he-wasnt-a-crook-but-the-ag-said-no/)
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> Only a matter of time now before Barr gets fired by tweet and the Loser goes on to declare he “doesn’t know anything about him” and that he was “totally unqualified”.

Yeah, and that he was only AG for a short time anyway.

On the one hand, glad to see that Barr actually has a limit to how far he’s willing to extend his tongue up Trump’s ass. On the other, fuck that slimy prick.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38570 "2019-11-07T06:00:08Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Say hello to your new Attorney General](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-prays-against-presidents-opponents-suggests-they-operate-1470197)

> [@](#):
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> **from link:** White’s prayer continued by saying that anyone who stands against Trump “would be exposed and dealt with and overturned in Jesus’ name.” She said that believers know that Trump and his Christian supporters “do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers, rulers of darkness of this age, hosts of wickedness in heavenly places.”
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> White went on: “Stretch out your arm and deliver President Trump and rid him of any bondage the enemy would try to bring against him.”

Aaaaw, that’s just…::snuggly-wugs feeling::

It would have been nice if she mentioned after the “bondage the enemy” bit something along the lines of “nor the ungodly urination of them Russain ho’s all over his rotten, stinking, yet righteous corpus…”

Maybe президент Trump can just shift Stephen Miller over to that position, just because…the cockamamie idea crossed his adderal-addled mind.  
Hopefully he won’t be reading this.

Yeah someone pour salt on that Barr slug.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38571 "2019-11-07T06:46:20Z")

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On behalf of all of _Gastropoda_, you are requested to retract your defamatory remarks (or at least retract your antennæ).

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38572 "2019-11-07T06:51:26Z")

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Or just make like Rodger Hodgson and hide in one’s shell.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38573 "2019-11-07T06:58:25Z")

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…and before anyone mentions slugs don’t have shells…

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38574 "2019-11-07T09:40:05Z")

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“Snails are nothing but slugs with mortgages.” (Stolen from a French book of jokes)

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38575 "2019-11-07T13:54:15Z")

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Does anyone believe for a second that if Trump loses in 2020 that there will be a smooth transition of power? That he would just accept that?

I mean, I know that has long been the conspiracy theory about a lot of presidents. That they would refuse to step down. But, in this case, it certainly seems more likely than not.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38576 "2019-11-07T13:58:18Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Honestly, the public can already plainly see that he’s unfit for the job, an embarrassment to the country and corrupt as hell and it doesn’t seem to bother a good fraction of the electorate.

You call them the GOOD fraction?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38577 "2019-11-07T14:17:28Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> [Loser Donald wanted Barr to hold a press conference to declare that he was innocent, and Barr refused.](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-wanted-bill-barr-to-hold-a-news-conference-saying-he-wasnt-a-crook-but-the-ag-said-no/).

It wasn’t a press conference, but didn’t he already effectively make that declaration by declining to initiate an investigation after receiving the whistleblower’s report?

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38578 "2019-11-07T14:19:23Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Yeah, and that he was only AG for a short time anyway.
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> On the one hand, glad to see that Barr actually has a limit to how far he’s willing to extend his tongue up Trump’s ass. On the other, fuck that slimy prick.

Yeah, I am a bit surprised that the toadie has any scruples at all, myself.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38579 "2019-11-07T14:19:31Z")

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That was less of a declaration and more of a sweeping, in search of a rug.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38580 "2019-11-07T14:24:09Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Does anyone believe for a second that if Trump loses in 2020 that there will be a smooth transition of power? That he would just accept that?
> 
> I mean, I know that has long been the conspiracy theory about a lot of presidents. That they would refuse to step down. But, in this case, it certainly seems more likely than not.

If Trump loses by anything other than a landslide, we are going to see a sh!t-storm the likes of which we have never seen, IMO. Frivolous court cases, unfounded recount demands, specious claims of outright fraud, outrageous things I’m too innocent to even imagine until he actually does them. We are in for a very bad period following election day 2020, no matter what the result is. If he wins, we get the worst president in history for four more years. If he loses big, God know what he’ll do as a lame duck. If he loses by a small margin, he will do anything he can do disallow the result, and he’ll have lots of willing help.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38581 "2019-11-07T15:00:46Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Yeah, I am a bit surprised that the toadie has any scruples at all, myself.

I don’t think he has. I think he has an atrophied sense of self-preservation that may have finally kicked in. Whatever triggered it must be horrendous.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38582 "2019-11-07T15:02:13Z")

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_BBC_: [Nato alliance experiencing brain death, says Macron](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50335257)

> [@](#):
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> “What we are currently experiencing is the brain death of Nato,” Mr Macron told the London-based newspaper [_The Economist_].
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> He warned European members that they could no longer rely on the US to defend the alliance, established at the start of the Cold War to bolster Western European and US security.
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> Article Five of Nato’s founding charter stipulates that an attack on one member will produce a collective response from the alliance.
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> But Mr Macron appeared unsure whether it was still valid when asked. “I don’t know,” he said.
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> The alliance, Mr Macron is quoted as saying, “only works if the guarantor of last resort functions as such. I’d argue that we should reassess the reality of what Nato is in the light of the commitment of the United States”.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38583 "2019-11-07T15:25:16Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> If Trump loses by anything other than a landslide, we are going to see a sh!t-storm the likes of which we have never seen, IMO. Frivolous court cases, unfounded recount demands, specious claims of outright fraud, outrageous things I’m too innocent to even imagine until he actually does them. We are in for a very bad period following election day 2020, no matter what the result is. If he wins, we get the worst president in history for four more years. If he loses big, God know what he’ll do as a lame duck. If he loses by a small margin, he will do anything he can do disallow the result, and he’ll have lots of willing help.

I fully expect this to happen if/when he loses regardless of the margin of victory. ☹

ETA: After all, this is the same guy who came right out and said that he would [only accept the results of the last election if he won](https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/20/politics/donald-trump-i-will-totally-accept-election-results-if-i-win/index.html).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38584 "2019-11-07T15:29:11Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> I fully expect this to happen if/when he loses regardless of the margin of victory. ☹

Yes, especially when you look back at the holy hell he raised about the election AFTER HE WON! :dubious:

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