# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1936
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38705 "2019-11-12T02:04:09Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > He’s going to be there today (Nov 11 2019), Veteran’s Day. He’ll be attending the NYC 100th anniversary Veteran’s Day parade. In the process he’ll be breaking tradition, not attending the ceremonies at Arlington (Pence will be there). Now if only there were tapes being made in this White House, I bet you there would be one where Trump is heard saying: TRUMP: I am NOT going to do that stupid Arlington again. It is SO boring. STAFF: Sir, you can’t just play golf on Veteran’s Day. TRUMP: Why not? But okay, find me something else to do that is not SO BORING. Nobody cheers for me and it’s all that standing and nobody tells me I’m great and the stupid wreath thing is heavy and nobody calls me Sir or talks about me at all. STAFF: How about the NYC parade? We’d be sure that there would be plenty of patriots near you to give you the reception you deserve. TRUMP: Well, okay. It’s bound to be better than stupid Arlington, even if it’s stupid New York with all those nasty Democrats. Maybe I can have lunch with some of the Saudis living in Trump Tower, eh? They’re always nice. Let Pence do the stupid Arlington thing. Who’d bet against the likelihood that Trump did indeed say something like this? Oh, to be able to let the American public in on such conversations… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38706 "2019-11-12T22:01:54Z")
I was watching a classic the other evening. Mr. Sulu was running around bare-chested threatening anyone and everyone with an epée, Mr. Riley was sitting at an engineering console doing karaoke a cappella, Mr. Spock was shedding green Freudian tears, and the ship was on the verge of becoming a stratospheric barbecue. Then I became confused, for I thought I had seen every episode of _The West Wing_ and never realized that Aaron Sorkin was gifted with such prescience. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38707 "2019-11-12T22:26:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > So the Anonymous guy in the White House is going to publish a book. > > And the Justice Department is telling him now: > > [https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/11/04/doj-warns-anonymous-author-book-stelter-ath-vpx.cnn?iid=ob\_article\_organicsidebar\_expansion](https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/11/04/doj-warns-anonymous-author-book-stelter-ath-vpx.cnn?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion) > But: > > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-otc-nda/trump-ndas-cant-silence-ex-white-house-officials-legal-experts-idUSKBN1GV2UT](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-otc-nda/trump-ndas-cant-silence-ex-white-house-officials-legal-experts-idUSKBN1GV2UT) > Is the Justice Department becoming the Injustice one? In fairness, AIUI, the DOJ misgivings are because 1) whenever anyone with a security clearance writes a book, they’re required to pre-clear it with the Feds to ensure that no classified material is being disclosed, and 2) even though Anonymous is still anonymous, if his/her claim to being a “senior administration official” is true, then s/he pretty much had to have had a security clearance. The Anonymous author (again, AIUI; IANAL) is actually at some risk of legal action in that regard, and IIRC the portion of the author’s proceeds not being donated to free-speech causes are being reserved for potential legal defense costs. The Trump-specific NDAs, basically “you can never speak ill of me or I’ll sue you,” _are_ nonsense and unenforceable in government, as noted in that Reuters cite – but that’s a different thing altogether. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38708 "2019-11-12T22:28:08Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > He can be boarded next to another American “traitor”, Edward Snowden. I bet they have some good stories to tell each other… Trump, boarded? _Water_ you talkin’ about, henh henh. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38709 "2019-11-12T22:43:14Z")
> [@mjmlabs](#): > > Trump, boarded? _Water_ you talkin’ about, henh henh. No. I wouldn’t do that to anyone (As a SCUBA diver, I know a little bit what that may be like. I don’t dive anymore. Sinus problem, I’m not a safe buddie). Trump should just pay for his crimes. There are plenty. I think we should just start with his fake University. He stole peoples dreams. All for a quick buck. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38710 "2019-11-13T05:16:39Z")
Nov 12, 2019 Individual 1 claims Ivanka has created 14 million jobs since he became President. There have only been a total of 6 million jobs created in that time period. [Trump’s whopper about Ivanka creating 14 million jobs - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2019/11/12/20961764/trump-ivanka-created-14-million-jobs-whopper)? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38711 "2019-11-13T05:32:08Z")
Note that he didn’t say where. Have you counted jobs in China? ---
**Author:** ![Elusive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@Elusive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elusive)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38712 "2019-11-13T07:01:12Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Note that he didn’t say where. Have you counted jobs in China? _snort_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38713 "2019-11-13T15:42:49Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I was watching a classic the other evening…Mr. Riley was sitting at an engineering console doing karaoke a cappella, I’ll Take You Home Again, Melanie Home to Russia wild and wide To where my heart has ever been Since first you were my boughten bride. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38714 "2019-11-13T17:09:13Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > He’s going to be there today (Nov 11 2019), Veteran’s Day. He’ll be attending the NYC 100th anniversary Veteran’s Day parade. In the process he’ll be breaking tradition, not attending the ceremonies at Arlington (Pence will be there). Probably hoped his home town won’t boo him. Guess what. New York hates his guts too. Remember, they knew what a scumbag he was, before the rest of the country. > [@](#): > > Asked what she would say to Trump if she met him, she said, “Fuck you.” That’s a New Yorker. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38715 "2019-11-13T17:10:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > There are 197 Republicans in the House. > > Last night, Representative Peter King (R-NY) announced he is retiring, making him the 20th House Republican to announce their retirement in the past year, pushing the share of Republicans tired of the shitshow/convinced they’re going to lose their seats, to 10% of their House representation. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/politics/peter-king-retiring-congress/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/politics/peter-king-retiring-congress/index.html) Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38716 "2019-11-13T17:31:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Nov 12, 2019 > Individual 1 claims Ivanka has created 14 million jobs since he became President. There have only been a total of 6 million jobs created in that time period. > [Trump’s whopper about Ivanka creating 14 million jobs - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2019/11/12/20961764/trump-ivanka-created-14-million-jobs-whopper)? According to Propublica, Trump is only responsible for [**797** new jobs being created since he became president](https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/trump-job-promises?utm_content=buffer7995). They have receipts (scroll ALL the way down). ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38717 "2019-11-13T18:15:16Z")
> [@](#): > > Asked what she would say to Trump if she met him, she said, “Fuck you.” > [@SteveG1](#): > > Probably hoped his home town won’t boo him. > That’s a New Yorker. For a New Yorker, that’s equivalent to “Have a nice day!” (being a New Yorker myself).😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38718 "2019-11-13T18:44:38Z")
Your belly laugh of the day: > [@](#): > > …President Trump’s Twitter account sure is lit up with activity about the “boring” impeachment hearing that he’s “not watching.” > > Trump, the White House says, has simply been too busy on Wednesday to watch the first official hearing in the impeachment inquiry, with White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham saying, “He’s in the Oval in meetings. Not watching. He’s working.” > … > > [Cite](https://theweek.com/speedreads/878210/trumps-twitter-account-full-retweets-about-impeachment-hearing-hes-busy-watch) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38719 "2019-11-13T19:14:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > For a New Yorker, that’s equivalent to “Have a nice day!” (being a New Yorker myself).😃 My home town too. Fahgeddabouddit! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38720 "2019-11-13T19:22:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Your belly laugh of the day: 😃 Translation: He’s yelling at the TV like a mental patient in apoplectic spittled rage and a BP of over 200. I do hope he suffers a massive aneurysm. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38721 "2019-11-13T19:34:04Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I do hope he suffers a massive aneurysm. [Hope was the last evil from Pandora’s jug](https://youtu.be/ERWREcPIoPA) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38722 "2019-11-13T21:54:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Your belly laugh of the day: > > > [@](#): > > > > …President Trump’s Twitter account sure is lit up with activity about the “boring” impeachment hearing that he’s “not watching.” Well, this time he did not call it a “fake impeachment hearing”. Guess it’s dawning on him that he very well may face consequences for his impeachable acts. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38723 "2019-11-13T22:47:12Z")
House and Senate Republicans start giving him dry handjobs? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38724 "2019-11-14T00:25:18Z")
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