# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1939
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38765 "2019-11-16T14:20:44Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I love this story for its infinite potential: > > [Rudy Giuliani says Trump will stay loyal to him but jokes that he has ‘insurance’](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/14/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-insurance-loyal) > > You have it completely backwards Rudy. Loyalty **to** Trump is required. Any suggestion of disloyalty and Trump will keep arguing with you and trashing your name until long after you die, see John McCain for example. > > Loyalty _from_ Trump? Who ever heard of such a ridiculous thing?! But you do you Rudy. Remind Trump that he owes you something. I’m sure it’ll be fine. Why don’t people call it what it is – fealty? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38766 "2019-11-16T14:48:02Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Trump just pardoned the guy that was turned in by his squad mates for murdering children. Were they white children? Sorry. After a while it’s hard to absorb the shocks to the system that he puts out every day. This is disturbing, if not surprising, news. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38767 "2019-11-16T15:17:20Z")
> [@Trancephalic](#): > > Why don’t people call it what it is – fealty? Nah. Fealty is predicated on mutual benefit, simplifiedly “you obey me, I protect you from evil/famine/poverty”. Trump is into a more unilateral principle : “You obey me, or I’ll do my utmost to fuck you up forever”. One has or can have merit (when sincere), the other is strictly predatory. And if the latter can be used as a reinforcement or reminder of the former, Trump has never really been into the former _at all_. At best, his pitch to his “friends” is “stick with me and you can run your own grifts”, not “and you can share the profits of mine”. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38768 "2019-11-16T18:59:10Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Does anyone else get a feeling that Russian intelligence may be deliberately feeding Giuliani and Barr with conspiracy theory stuff? > > Giuliani \<\> Manafort/Ukrainian sources \<\> Russia > Barr \<\> Mifsud \<\> Russia [Rachel Maddow piece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiiWWlLablY) about how the conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election, rather than Russia, originated with Putin and Russian intelligence. Putin/Russia will also surely have electronically eavesdropped recordings of Sondland’s phone calls with Trump from Ukraine - which he chose to make from his cellphone rather than a secure embassy phone - and therefore have evidence of impeachable offense(s) by the U.S. president. That’s some _kompromat_ right there. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38769 "2019-11-16T19:13:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And one of the idiot trump-loving vets of my aquaintance says I’m “intellectually dishonest” because I’m not, like he is, bitching about the House not following federal court rules of evidence. > > Take a wild guess what that tells me about trumpeters. Tells you they’re all fucking stupid? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38770 "2019-11-16T19:20:05Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > You know, I hate prison rape jokes. I hate that they’re acceptable, I hate that so many people seem to treat prison rape as not only some kind of natural and unavoidable fact of life but an integral, justified, almost commendable even aspect of incarceration. It’s callous, it’s trite, it’s banally cruel, it’s very much not funny, and it doesn’t even have the redeeming aspect of being original. > > But. > > But. > > But this is just _too_ good a setup to miss goddammit. The spirit is willing, but the spirit is weak. > > One lucky American is finally going to be able to hatefuck Nixon face to face. > > I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry Doesn’t bother me. To hell with him. What does bother me is, he’ll either not get as many DECADES as he deserves, or Barr and Trump will move him to a “country club” and/or pardon him. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38771 "2019-11-16T20:47:42Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Tells you they’re all fucking stupid? And they do not understand the constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38772 "2019-11-16T23:21:07Z")
Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for “portions” of his physical, which is scheduled for February. Gotta make sure he can keep up his breakneck pace of yelling at the TV and playing golf, after all. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38773 "2019-11-16T23:42:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for “portions” of his physical, which is scheduled for February. > > Gotta make sure he can keep up his breakneck pace of yelling at the TV and playing golf, after all. I sure hope his thumbs get a thorough check-up! It’s very important that they remain in tip-top shape, or our gummint will grind to a halt! (Would that really be so bad?) I’m looking forward to reading Dr. Feelgood’s report on the soon-to-be Former President’s state of [del]mind[/del] health. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38774 "2019-11-16T23:46:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I sure hope his thumbs get a thorough check-up! It’s very important that they remain in tip-top shape, or our gummint will grind to a halt! (Would that really be so bad?) > > I’m looking forward to reading Dr. Feelgood’s report on the soon-to-be Former President’s state of [del]mind[/del] health. Is that hippie still in charge of his health? This is why I hope for an emergency situation, so we get a real report for once. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38775 "2019-11-16T23:52:03Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Is that hippie still in charge of his health? This is why I hope for an emergency situation, so we get a real report for once. I don’t know if he is, but he gives such good reports I’m guessing DJT will keep him on [del]the leash[/del] retainer. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38776 "2019-11-16T23:52:21Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I sure hope his thumbs get a thorough check-up! I would not want to be the medic tasked with pulling them out of where he keeps them and wiping them down, but thank goodness for gloves. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38777 "2019-11-17T00:34:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for “portions” of his physical, which is scheduled for February. Sounds like he had a coronary or a stroke or something. Time to insert the monkey glands. And administer a few hypos of whatever illegal drug kept JFK going. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38778 "2019-11-17T03:11:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for “portions” of his physical, which is scheduled for February. > > Gotta make sure he can keep up his breakneck pace of yelling at the TV and playing golf, after all. He’s not sure what kind of coverage he’ll have in February, or if they will cover preexisting conditions. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38779 "2019-11-17T13:55:11Z")
> [@simster](#): > > He’s not sure what kind of coverage he’ll have in February, or if they will cover preexisting conditions. Heh! I’m reminded of Michael Moore’s attempted visit to Gitmo, to highlight the ironically excellent medical care for the the detainees there. Gitmo…hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38780 "2019-11-17T14:03:58Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Gitmo…hmmm… Move current inmates out. Change signage from Guantanamo Bay to Mar a Lago. Move Trumps in. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38781 "2019-11-17T14:37:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for “portions” of his physical, which is scheduled for February. > > Gotta make sure he can keep up his breakneck pace of yelling at the TV and playing golf, after all. The White House has called a [lid](https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1196069733256384518) for today. Curious. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38782 "2019-11-17T14:41:37Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The White House has called a [lid](https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1196069733256384518) for today. Curious. Very interesting. Related to doc visit maybe? I hope? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38783 "2019-11-17T14:43:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Very interesting. Related to doc visit maybe? I hope? I mean, one does need a full day to recover from a partial doctor’s physical, after all. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38784 "2019-11-17T15:10:33Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I mean, one does need a full day to recover from a partial doctor’s physical, after all. True. Whenever I bring my dog or one of my two cats home from a physical at the vet, they sack out for the rest of the day. Oh, wait… they do that most days. 🙂 The test will be whether he tweets today. Twitter watchers, please keep an eye out and report in the appropriate thread. Thank you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1938) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1940)