# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1941
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38805 "2019-11-17T20:02:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He hasn’t got a heart. Nor a brain. Nor courage. He’s Dorothy’s entourage all in one lump. And he’s declared himself a Florida man, too, so he can’t go home again. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38806 "2019-11-17T20:39:54Z")
I would never wish a sitting US president dead. But I will say I would dance and piss on Chump’s grave simultaneously given half a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38807 "2019-11-17T20:55:03Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I would never wish a sitting US president dead. But I will say I would dance and piss on Chump’s grave simultaneously given half a chance. To paraphrase Clarence Darrow: ‘I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.’ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38808 "2019-11-17T21:07:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …The test will be whether he tweets today. Twitter watchers, please keep an eye out and report in the appropriate thread. Thank you. Out of curiosity, I put on a pair of vinyl gloves, attached a clothespin to my nose, and went over to Twitter to check out the Real soon-to-be-ex’s thread. There have been a steady stream of tweets criticizing and insulting the Democrats, but they’re strangely passionless and subdued. Mostly spelled correctly, not an excessive use of exclamation points. They’re sort of robotic. I wonder if he’s in an induced coma and a computer is sending them? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38809 "2019-11-17T21:20:49Z")
There is video of Individual 1 being hustled into an SUV hunched over and looking ill on the way to the hospital. Are there any videos of him arriving back at the White House? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38810 "2019-11-17T21:25:53Z")
I’m fully aware of where I’m bound — and have my asbestos undies packed and ready to go — so it’s no surprise that the current speculation made the following (imaginary) exchange at Cancer Central pop into my mind: > [@](#): > > “Company G, you’re assigned to Donald Trump’s testicles.” > > “Noooooooooooooo!!!” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38811 "2019-11-17T22:59:40Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > That’s just what Kevin Dunn and Frank Langella want you to think. Anybody can write a tweet. They need a little cover. It’ll take a few days to get the new guy up to speed. Holy crap, there is a guy? I wonder where they found the poor sad schlub. (and, has Pence ever been to Africa?) ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38812 "2019-11-17T23:18:31Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He hasn’t got a heart. Nor a brain. Nor courage. He’s Dorothy’s entourage all in one lump. He’s the Cowardly Tin Scarecrow. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38813 "2019-11-17T23:52:42Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He hasn’t got a heart. Nor a brain. Nor courage. He’s Dorothy’s entourage all in one lump. Exactly. It’s a witch-hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38814 "2019-11-18T00:08:32Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > And her little dog, too. You are wrong. Toto was _loyal_. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38815 "2019-11-18T00:22:28Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > My WAG, based on my not having bothered to read anything about it, is that he went in for something minor and typical of a man his age and poor physical condition, but his instinctual dishonesty about everything fuels all kinds of elaborate and unnecessary speculation. > > He’s not going to die. He’s not going to resign for “health reasons”. He’s not laying the groundwork for some “compassion pardon”. He’s a fat, aging grifter who hides and lies about everything, even when there’s no benefit to him. I would agree with you except for the lid today, and another lid for [tomorrow](https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1196212773014900736). That’s not normal. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38816 "2019-11-18T00:34:49Z")
Huh. Wasn’t impeachment supposed to be _good_ for Trump? Wasn’t the entire GOP inviting impeachment, because it was going to be the great thing to ensure Trump would be reelected? He should be glowing with very stable good health (the best health ever!), shouldn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38817 "2019-11-18T00:47:11Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I would agree with you except for the lid today, and another lid for [tomorrow](https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1196212773014900736). That’s not normal. Goodness. WaPo quoted the press secretary Stephanie What’s-Her-Name as saying he’s fine, great, blahblahblah, but the reader comments beg to differ. Over two thousand of them ain’t buyin’ it. Very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38818 "2019-11-18T00:50:54Z")
[Karen Tumulty](https://twitter.com/ktumulty/status/1196172020033216513), _Washington Post_ columnist: > [@](#): > > It’s a good bet he White House is not telling the truth when it claims Trump was at Walter Reed “to begin portions of his routine annual physical exam.” We know this because — well, because those people lie about pretty much everything. [James Fallows](https://twitter.com/JamesFallows/status/1196200343014662144), Twitter person: > [@](#): > > Here is something I know first-hand (as do thousands of other people who have worked in the WH): > > If a president needs routine tests, there’s an amply staffed medical office right inside the White House. It’s a one-minute walk > > Have no idea what this means, but 100% not “routine” Trump has been busy tweeting today, although (from a couple of days ago)… [Zeke Miller](https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1195420327473483776), _AP_: > [@](#): > > President Trump is speaking about healthcare in the Roosevelt Room, while @realDonaldTrump is retweeting Republican lawmakers ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38819 "2019-11-18T00:54:59Z")
While we’re on the subject, I’ve never heard of “lid” as referring to a day off or a day free from appointments. Where does that come from? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38820 "2019-11-18T01:01:00Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I would never wish a sitting US president dead. But I will say I would dance and piss on Chump’s grave simultaneously given half a chance. I have never in my life wished someone dead. I sometimes feel that I not only wish him dead, but I wish a long, slow, painful death. I want him to suffer the way he has made others suffer, stealing from working people- not paying contracters, Trump “University”, his bullshit foundation, etc etc. And I don’t like the way that makes me feel. And so I do not wish that death on him. I just want the motherfucker gone, and out of my, and your, life. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38821 "2019-11-18T01:02:30Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > There is video of Individual 1 being hustled into an SUV hunched over and looking ill on the way to the hospital. Are there any videos of him arriving back at the White House? Do you have a link? I’d love to show that to my Republican friends that believe everything the white house says ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38822 "2019-11-18T01:03:16Z")
I saw something on Facebook the general gist of which was: “Since President Trump was reported to be at Walter Reed we should all keep in mind that he has a family … and hope that that whatever he has is highly contagious” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38823 "2019-11-18T01:13:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > While we’re on the subject, I’ve never heard of “lid” as referring to a day off or a day free from appointments. Where does that come from? I believe it’s just a White House term meaning “no more news for the day.” I just assume it comes from the phrase “putting a lid on it” or something of that effect. [Definition here.](https://politicaldictionary.com/words/lid/) > [@](#): > > A term used by White House press secretaries to indicate that there will be no news coming out of the White House that day. It can also be called a ‘Full Lid.’ > > A lid is typically called when the White House does not want to release any information about a key topic. They call a lid to give notice to journalists that no questions will be answered. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38824 "2019-11-18T01:15:38Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I believe it’s just a White House term meaning “no more news for the day.” I just assume it comes from the phrase “putting a lid on it” or something of that effect. > > [Definition here.](https://politicaldictionary.com/words/lid/) Thanks ever so! That’s why I hang around here. 🙂 In this case “no more news” for two days in a row IS, in fact, news. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1940) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1942)