# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38885 "2019-11-19T14:54:59Z")

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Has the healthiest man in the world been seen in public today?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38886 "2019-11-19T14:59:56Z")

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In all of this, I stand in wondrous awe at Donald Trump, a man who is responsible for nothing judging by how he blames everyone else around him for whatever bad thing is happening at the moment. [/sarcasm]

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38887 "2019-11-19T16:04:45Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> bye, Felicia!

Jesus, the _balls_ on this woman. :eek:

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> “It is essential that my resignation be seen as a protest and not as surrender because I will not surrender my commitment to serve, my fidelity to the truth, or my love of country,” Chang wrote in her resignation letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

When caught…double down!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38888 "2019-11-19T18:43:46Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Definitely gonna need a bigger bus. With big fat tires (lotsa room under, dontcha know).
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> **[Trump’s impeachment ire turns on Pompeo](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBWVTD5?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)**  
> Ya really fucked up, Mike! You hired good, honorable, professional people who won’t go along with the shitshow that is this administration. :smack: Dang! You should have hired losers and toadies, bereft of principles, willing to have their mouths tapes shut, and ideally, dumb as a box of hair. What were you thinking??

I like the way they talk about some great “seemingly unbreakable bond” between them. Trump has a “bond” with NO ONE. He just has suckers, to use and discard.

Yes, Pompeo fucked up by having honest competent people under him.

Too bad, so sad. But he’s trash too, so fuck him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38889 "2019-11-19T18:58:19Z")

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Individual 1’s press secretary (and what does she do all day when there are no press conferences?) claims that Obama staffers left nasty notes telling the incoming Individual 1 staffers that “you will fail.”

> **[Trump press secretary claims departing Obama aides left nasty notes](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1085601)**
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> The former president's staffers quickly denied Trump adviser Stephanie Grisham's accusation, calling it an "outrageous lie."

The Obama staffers are calling it a flat out lie. Also, if this were true, why was it never brought up in the past three years? Wouldn’t it have been the first thing out of Sean Spicer’s mouth?

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A New York state judge has ordered Individual 1 to be deposed in the Summer Zervos defamation case against him.

> **[State Supreme Court judge rules Trump to be deposed in Summer Zervos...](https://www.alternet.org/2019/11/state-supreme-court-judge-rules-trump-to-be-deposed-in-summer-zervos-defamation-case)**
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> Trump's legal team has claimed his denials of allegations of sexual assault are protected political speech.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38890 "2019-11-19T19:05:45Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Yes, Pompeo fucked up by having honest competent people under him.

umm,

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Senior State Department [resigns after media maligns her](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/senior-trump-admin-official-mina-chang-resigns-after-nbc-news-n1085186) for trumping up her resumé.

Honest? What?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38891 "2019-11-19T19:39:50Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> bye, Felicia!

Honestly surprised she resigned. Assumed they would just ride it out and wait for a new controversy to supplant this one. I mean, Stephen Miller is in no danger of losing his job, I don’t think. They’re all just ignoring the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38892 "2019-11-19T20:34:34Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Honestly surprised she resigned. Assumed they would just ride it out and wait for a new controversy to supplant this one.

Seeing a Trump administration resign for being a liar is extraordinary. I mean, it’s basically a job requirement.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38893 "2019-11-19T20:46:58Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Honestly surprised she resigned. Assumed they would just ride it out and wait for a new controversy to supplant this one. I mean, Stephen Miller is in no danger of losing his job, I don’t think. They’re all just ignoring the whole thing.

Or she was forced out to distract from Nazi Nosferatu.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38894 "2019-11-19T20:50:13Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I like the way they talk about some great “seemingly unbreakable bond” between them. Trump has a “bond” with NO ONE. He just has suckers, to use and discard.
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> Yes, Pompeo fucked up by having honest competent people under him.
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> Too bad, so sad. But he’s trash too, so fuck him.

Has anyone who’s testified or agreed to been a Pompeo appointee? Maybe Taylor, but he’s still a career man with impeccable credentials.

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38895 "2019-11-19T22:43:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> umm,
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> Honest? What?

You DO realize that there is more than ONE SD employee, right?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38896 "2019-11-19T22:47:31Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> You DO realize that there is more than ONE SD employee, right?

Give it time.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38897 "2019-11-19T22:57:29Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Give it time.

Well, they do claim to want smaller government … I guess this is one way to do it. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38898 "2019-11-19T23:34:18Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Yes, Pompeo fucked up by having honest competent people under him.

To be fair, he is probably not the one who hired them.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38899 "2019-11-19T23:55:23Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> To be fair, he is probably not the one who hired them.

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> Marie Yovanovitch was sent to Kyiv by Barack Obama, though the Trump administration initially asked her to extend her term before Trump abruptly sacked her. But Ambassador Bill Taylor was handpicked by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to replace Yovanovitch. Jennifer Williams was hired by the Trump administration. George Kent, though a career diplomat, was appointed deputy assistant secretary of state by Trump; Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, though a career military officer, was hired to work on the National Security Council under Trump.  
> …

[The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/trump-presidency-freefall-again/602269/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38900 "2019-11-20T00:21:01Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/trump-presidency-freefall-again/602269/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)

Those “never Trumpers” are sure sneaky, forcing Trump to appoint them like that.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38901 "2019-11-20T01:02:42Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Those “never Trumpers” are sure sneaky, forcing Trump to appoint them like that.

They put the “D” in Deep State.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38902 "2019-11-20T01:14:41Z")

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Has Trump actually been seen in public since his visit to the hospital on Saturday?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38903 "2019-11-20T01:39:54Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Has Trump actually been seen in public since his visit to the hospital on Saturday?

Yes, he was yammering to the press before a cabinet meeting today.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/38904 "2019-11-20T01:53:35Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Are you fucking seriously entertaining the notion that POTUS can be blackmailed with threats of force against his family? By the Russian mob??? Are you fucking kidding me? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post retarded shit like this?
> 
> If the Russian mob could do this to Trump as Potus, wtf was keeping them from blackmailing Obama or the Clintons?
> 
> Stop being retarded, it undermines all liberals everywhere.

All they have to do, is turn off their money faucet. Who was financing him all these years, using his properties to launder money? Russians. Whose money kept in “in some sort of” business while other more competent HONEST real estate people were circling the drain? Russians. Who fired up the propaganda machine and attacked Clinton while helping him? Russians.

It’s Russians all the way down, and all roads lead to Putin. And crooked Russian money.

Without Russia, he ain’t shit. Even WITH their money he kept (and keeps) failing. They kept him afloat.

All they have to do, is walk away from him and he’s fucked.

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