# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3881 "2017-05-02T23:16:29Z")

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More Trump personal business being promoted with taxpayer dollars.

> **[Ivanka Trump's book is being promoted by the government-funded broadcaster...](https://theweek.com/speedreads/696072/ivanka-trumps-book-being-promoted-by-governmentfunded-broadcaster-voice-america)**

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3882 "2017-05-02T23:25:25Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> I’m honestly not so certain that Pence would be reluctant to launch a nuclear attack…

This has been one of my favorite threads, but it escalated quickly from “Point & Laugh” to “Duck & Cover”…

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3883 "2017-05-02T23:38:33Z")

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> [@Thank You For Marginalizing Our Dead, Mr Bush](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thank-you-for-marginalizing-our-dead-mr-bush/104508/51):
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> Notice that Trump debuted TWO major distractors the day before his planned telephone conversation with Putin: the Civil War/Andrew Jackson inanity, and the “I would be honored” to meet with the North Korean dictator comment.

See, we’re not fully appreciating the political masterfulness of Trump. The US wants Kim out of power. Trump called Kim a “smart cookie”.

Now, Kim’s starving populace will be trying to eat him.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3884 "2017-05-02T23:41:07Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I agree about Pence’s proclivities. One major–and important–difference between Trump and Pence, though, is that Pence has no fanatical fan base.

I think Pence’s primary qualification was that he was the only guy left after you eliminated everyone than ran against Trump in the primaries.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3885 "2017-05-02T23:54:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Other Cheetotweets explaining history and other subjects:
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> First the Chinese built the wall, and THEN sent the Mongolians an invoice for it!  
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> Too bad they couldn’t take the Battle of Midway all the way! SAD.  
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> **7/11. Never forget. Sad.**  
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> Then Marie Antoinette offers them the most beautiful cake you’ve ever seen.  
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> I’ve always believed marriage should be between 1 man & a series of progressively younger women  
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> Great guy this Isaac Newton. An apple falls on his head and he comes up with the iPhone.  
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> Trail of Tears. BAD. Imagine if Andrew Jackson had been there.  
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> Inauguration crowd was the biggest crowd in human history. Media airbrushed people out. Sad!  
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> Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on @united, very sad  
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> Robert E Lee. Such a horrible general believe me. But when he met Sara they made beautiful coffee cake  
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> “And Hercules grabbed the Lion by the pussy…”  
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> “‘Homo sapien’ means ‘attracted to the same gender,’ so when someone asks if I’m a homo sapien, I always say no.”  
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> They signed one Declaration of Independence. SAD! I’ve signed like 5000 executive orders in the past 100 days.  
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> Benedict Arnold, stand up guy, made the best eggs. If Washington had them, American Rev. would’ve ended. SAD.  
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> Leonardo da Vinci, great guy. Invented the helicopter, but I loved him in the great gatsby.

**Bolding** mine. You included 7/11 to show that Trump can accidentally be a “stopped clock”, right?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3886 "2017-05-03T01:07:05Z")

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No… that would be “9/11”, the date of the terror attacks, not “7/11”, a chain of convenience stores.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3887 "2017-05-03T01:37:50Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> No… that would be “9/11”, the date of the terror attacks, not “7/11”, a chain of convenience stores.

WHOOSH!  
Trump said “7/11” either because he couldn’t remember “9/11,” or because he once got a bad chicken salad sandwich at 7/11, and he will never forget it.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3888 "2017-05-03T01:38:17Z")

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It’s the 7-11 in Bowling Green.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3889 "2017-05-03T02:17:13Z")

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I count on Pence’s stodgy, worse-than-eating-yesterday’s-breakfast-oatmeal personality to keep us safe. He’s as batshit as Trump and scary as fuck, no argument, though in an entirely different way. Fortunately, he has the charm of a constipated walrus. Trump has some nutty allure to people I’ll never understand with his over-the-top Music Man routine, but Pence has none of that. He is not a natural leader, not a good bullshitter – although I’m giving that a re-think based on his calm lying over being “lied to” by Mike Flynn, since Pence headed up the vetting of Flynn and surely would have heard about the strong warning issued by Sally Yates.

If he ends up in the top spot, I expect him to _try_ and pull some ghastly shit – but I don’t expect him to succeed. He’ll appeal to the Freedom Caucus. And few others.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3890 "2017-05-03T02:33:00Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I count on Pence’s stodgy, worse-than-eating-yesterday’s-breakfast-oatmeal personality to keep us safe. He’s as batshit as Trump and scary as fuck, no argument, though in an entirely different way. Fortunately, he has the charm of a constipated walrus. Trump has some nutty allure to people I’ll never understand with his over-the-top Music Man routine, but Pence has none of that. He is not a natural leader, not a good bullshitter – although I’m giving that a re-think based on his calm lying over being “lied to” by Mike Flynn, since Pence headed up the vetting of Flynn and surely would have heard about the strong warning issued by Sally Yates.
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> If he ends up in the top spot, I expect him to _try_ and pull some ghastly shit – but I don’t expect him to succeed. He’ll appeal to the Freedom Caucus. And few others.

You’ve got a point. Pence won’t appeal to the Trumpniks.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3891 "2017-05-03T02:40:04Z")

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The Trump for President campaign created an ad talking about all of the wonderful things that Trump has done in his first 100 days, and CNN refused to air it. The Trump people called it censorship. CNN replied that the ad refers to the media as “fake news”, and since the media is not fake news, the ad violates CNN’s policy against running false advertising.

> <https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/859425426556542976>

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3892 "2017-05-03T03:15:45Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> **Bolding** mine. You included 7/11 to show that Trump can accidentally be a “stopped clock”, right?

> [@JohnT](#):
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> No… that would be “9/11”, the date of the terror attacks, not “7/11”, a chain of convenience stores.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> WHOOSH!  
> Trump said “7/11” either because he couldn’t remember “9/11,” or because he once got a bad chicken salad sandwich at 7/11, and he will never forget it.

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> It’s the 7-11 in Bowling Green.

There was a terrorist attack in India on July 11, 2006. (Of course, I don’t expect Trump to be aware of that.) As [Russell Peters](https://www.quora.com/I-was-recently-watching-Russell-Peters-show-and-he-had-a-joke-on-7-Eleven-that-I-didnt-get-Whats-funny-about-that-joke) put it, “The terrorist planning it probably said, 'Really. Let’s do the bombing on 7/11. The joke will write itself.” _(Note: this is not a direct quote; it’s the best I remember.)_

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3893 "2017-05-03T04:02:14Z")

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[CNN.com: “Spicer ignores room full of reporters in WH”](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/02/white-house-press-briefing-reporters-yell-sean-sot.cnn)

“Where did Sean go? Really?”

“He said he’s not coming back.”

Look, I know you guys like to beat up on poor Spicy, but if he leaves for the private sector with his public speaking ability he’s going to end up living in a refrigerator box under an overpass, and we’ll have proto-Nazi and future pederast Steven Miller to cope with who isn’t going to be nearly as fun to fuck with. Give the Spiceman a break and #LetHimMisspeak.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3894 "2017-05-03T05:59:34Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> There was a terrorist attack in India on July 11, 2006. (Of course, I don’t expect Trump to be aware of that.) As [Russell Peters](https://www.quora.com/I-was-recently-watching-Russell-Peters-show-and-he-had-a-joke-on-7-Eleven-that-I-didnt-get-Whats-funny-about-that-joke) put it, “The terrorist planning it probably said, 'Really. Let’s do the bombing on 7/11. The joke will write itself.” _(Note: this is not a direct quote; it’s the best I remember.)_

Except, for the attack to happen in India on 7/11, it would have to be in early November.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3895 "2017-05-03T06:03:37Z")

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Trump keeps ratcheting up the crazy with his big, fat mouth, and his supporters just lap it up. Without a doubt, they and anyone else who voted for him for whatever reason are the lowest of the lowest classes, as mirrored by his fans on this Board.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3896 "2017-05-03T06:47:11Z")

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Perhaps if you kiss him, he’ll turn into a handsome prince.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3897 "2017-05-03T12:30:43Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> There was a terrorist attack in India on July 11, 2006. (Of course, I don’t expect Trump to be aware of that.) As [Russell Peters](https://www.quora.com/I-was-recently-watching-Russell-Peters-show-and-he-had-a-joke-on-7-Eleven-that-I-didnt-get-Whats-funny-about-that-joke) put it, “The terrorist planning it probably said, 'Really. Let’s do the bombing on 7/11. The joke will write itself.” _(Note: this is not a direct quote; it’s the best I remember.)_

I didn’t write them, I just compiled some I saw elsewhere. But this one I just took as him thinking: “What day was that- something eleven. Oh, of course, seven-eleven. I used to get my burritos there. Sad!”

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3898 "2017-05-03T13:16:41Z")

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Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Trump announced his intention to “Do a Big Number” on [big banks](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/business/sorkin-trump-breaking-up-banks.html), which in a normal presidency would send the stock markets reeling, but in a Trump presidency, when no one believes a thing he says, Wall Street just yawned?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3899 "2017-05-03T13:41:08Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Trump announced his intention to “Do a Big Number” on [big banks](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/business/sorkin-trump-breaking-up-banks.html), which in a normal presidency would send the stock markets reeling, but in a Trump presidency, when no one believes a thing he says, Wall Street just yawned?

Anything he does do will be carefully crafted to avoid having any detrimental effect on Deutsche Bank, his personal moneylender of choice.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3900 "2017-05-03T13:50:35Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Trump announced his intention to “Do a Big Number” on [big banks](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/business/sorkin-trump-breaking-up-banks.html), which in a normal presidency would send the stock markets reeling, but in a Trump presidency, when no one believes a thing he says, Wall Street just yawned?

Maybe by “Big Banks” they meant former Giant and MSU linebacker Carl Banks.

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