# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39145 "2019-12-04T03:09:59Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> _Too Much Johnson._

> [@Ludovic](#):
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> …said no one ever.

From _The Years of Lyndon Johnson: Master of the Senate_ by Robert A. Caro:

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> He early became fabled for a Rabelaisian earthiness, urinating in the parking lot of the House Office Building as the urge took him; if a colleague came into a Capitol bathroom as he was finishing at the urinal there, he would sometimes swing around still holding his member, which he liked to call “Jumbo,” hooting once, “Have you ever seen anything as big as this?,” and shaking it in almost a brandishing manner as he began discoursing about some pending legislation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39146 "2019-12-04T03:13:25Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> From _The Years of Lyndon Johnson: Master of the Senate_ by Robert A. Caro:

Thank God there was no Twitter then.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39147 "2019-12-04T03:23:19Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Thank God there was no Twitter then.

LBJ would probably have created an @PeenOTUS account just to post dick pics.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39148 "2019-12-04T03:29:44Z")

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[World leaders laughing at Trump](https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/1202008162997538817).

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39149 "2019-12-04T04:18:40Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Thank God there was no Twitter then.

I don’t have the creativity - but I think it would be great if we had tweets thru the ages of the presidency - Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Lincoln, etc…

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39150 "2019-12-04T04:58:19Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> I don’t have the creativity - but I think it would be great if we had tweets thru the ages of the presidency - Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Lincoln, etc…

“The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity.”  
~ Abraham Lincoln

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39151 "2019-12-04T05:34:08Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> [Enumclaw horse sex case - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case)

I didn’t know there was an Enumclaw in Florida, too.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39152 "2019-12-04T05:38:06Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> My guess is that the cloud of methane drifting about his fast-food-scarfing person, does indeed mark him as human.

MOOOOOOO.

Signed,  
Devin Nunes’ cow.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39153 "2019-12-04T14:10:47Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [World leaders laughing at Trump](https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/1202008162997538817).

[Kaitlan Collins](https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1202218639547621377), _CNN_:

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> After video surfaced that appeared to show the French, Canadian and British leaders mocking his long q&a sessions yesterday, Trump says his scheduled press conference is off and he’ll go directly to Washington after his meetings instead.

[Jonathan Lemire](https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1202216997716709377), _AP_:

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> At NATO in London alongside Merkel, Trump just called Trudeau “two-faced”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39154 "2019-12-04T14:40:58Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> From _The Years of Lyndon Johnson: Master of the Senate_ by Robert A. Caro:

An episode of the new season of The Crown dramatizes the whirling-around-at-the-urinal moment. (The episode is about how LBJ agrees to a bailout of the UK after Princess Margaret charms LBJ in a dirty limerick contest.)

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39155 "2019-12-04T14:49:30Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [Kaitlan Collins](https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1202218639547621377), _CNN_:  
> [Jonathan Lemire](https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1202216997716709377), _AP_:

Canada is well aware that Trudeau is a hypocrite and re-elected him entirely in spite of that fact. Trump doesn’t like hypocrites? Man, is he ever in for a rude surprise some day when he is looking in the mirror.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39156 "2019-12-04T14:52:13Z")

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Birds of a feather… (My bold)

[ **All the President’s Crooks**  
 _Again and again, Trump’s core supporters have turned out to be criminals._](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/all-the-presidents-crooks/602965/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)

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> The \*\*first \*\*House member to endorse Donald Trump, Chris Collins of New York, pleaded guilty to insider-trading charges on October 1, 2019.
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> The \*\*second \*\*House Trump endorser, Duncan Hunter of California, pleaded guilty to criminal misuse of campaign funds yesterday.
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> Is a pattern emerging? The \*\*third \*\*House member to endorse Donald Trump was Representative Tom Marino of Pennsylvania. Trump thanked Marino by nominating him in April 2017 to head the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Marino withdrew his name from consideration after four months of press reports like this one, from The Washington Post:
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> ```
> In April 2016, at the height of the deadliest drug epidemic in U.S. history, Congress effectively stripped the Drug Enforcement Administration of its most potent weapon against large drug companies suspected of spilling prescription narcotics onto the nation’s streets … The chief advocate of the law that hobbled the DEA was Rep. Tom Marino, a Pennsylvania Republican who is now President Trump’s nominee to become the nation’s next drug czar.
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> ```
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> So, um, who was the \*\*fourth \*\*House member to endorse Trump?
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> That would be Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee. Here’s how Politico reported the difficulties he faced as he sought reelection for a third term in 2014, in a story headlined, “The biggest hypocrite in Congress?”
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> ```
> Two abortions. Maybe three, if you count the one he pressured a girlfriend—who happened to be his patient—to get. Pulling out a gun during an argument with his first wife. Prescribing pills to another patient while they dated. Getting reprimanded by the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners for dallying with patients, an ethics violation.
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> The \*\*fifth \*\*House member to endorse Trump, Tom Reed of New York, took more than two years to comply with House ethics rules and divest himself from the law firm that bore his name, a medical-debt-collection business, and commercial real-estate holdings after his election in 2010. Reed eventually sold the debt-collection business to one of his brothers. His attorney promised to release the correspondence with the Ethics Committee that he said would explain the delay, but when pressed by an opponent to follow through during the 2014 election, Reed demurred.  
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> Trump’s core supporters have proved again and again to be criminals: Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, and Roger Stone, have pleaded guilty to, or been convicted of, federal crimes. Now Collins and Hunter, Trump’s earliest supporters in the House, have joined them.
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> The attraction of such people—and so many like them—to Donald Trump tells us something important about who Trump is: a man who appeals to crooks because they recognize him as one of their own.

He DOES know how to pick 'em!

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39157 "2019-12-04T15:01:30Z")

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> [Kaitlan Collins](https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1202218639547621377), _CNN_:
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> After video surfaced that appeared to show the French, Canadian and British leaders mocking his long q&a sessions yesterday, Trump says his scheduled press conference is off and he’ll go directly to Washington after his meetings instead.

I guess he decided to go away before they taunted him a second time.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39158 "2019-12-04T19:02:54Z")

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Probably thinks elderberries are seniors.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39159 "2019-12-04T19:14:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Probably thinks elderberries are seniors.

Or an **ahem** personal condition that senior sometimes get.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39160 "2019-12-04T19:18:13Z")

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Rudy went to Budapest yesterday to meet with former Ukrainian prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko, who the Republicans are claiming Joe Biden got fired. Today he’s in Ukraine, meeting with Viktor Shokin and Kostiantyn H. Kulyk

> **[Giuliani, Facing Scrutiny, Travels to Europe to Interview Ukrainians...](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/giuliani-europe-impeachment.html)**
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> President Trump’s personal lawyer has been in Budapest and Kyiv this week to talk with former Ukrainian prosecutors for a documentary series intended to debunk the impeachment case.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39161 "2019-12-04T19:19:31Z")

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Former intelligence advisor Susan Gordon says Individual 1 refused to believe the intel briefings he was being given, because they didn’t match his preconceptions.

> **[Former official says Trump often refused to believe his intelligence briefings...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/03/politics/susan-gordon-trump-intel-briefings/index.html)**
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> One of President Donald Trump's most common responses to intelligence briefings is to doubt what he's being told, former Deputy Director of Intelligence Susan Gordon said Tuesday.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39162 "2019-12-04T19:22:38Z")

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Texas judge temporarily blocks private WALL construction.

> **[Texas judge temporarily blocks construction of private border wall | CNN...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/04/politics/national-butterfly-center-private-wall)**
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> A Texas judge has temporarily halted the construction of a private wall along the US-Mexico border, delivering a blow to the group that has ardently supported the President Donald Trump's push for additional border barriers.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39163 "2019-12-04T19:34:07Z")

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Trump: [You guys suck and you’re mean. I’m goin’ home.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-trudeau-two-faced-nato-leaders-video-mocking-him-145111328.html)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39164 "2019-12-04T19:38:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Former intelligence advisor Susan Gordon says Individual 1 refused to believe the intel briefings he was being given, because they didn’t match his preconceptions.  
> [Former official says Trump often refused to believe his intelligence briefings - CNNPolitics](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/03/politics/susan-gordon-trump-intel-briefings/index.html)

Modern Republicanism, in a nutshell.

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