# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39185 "2019-12-05T16:14:51Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Except, of course, for the gold spray paint and Pottery Barn price tags still attached.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Goddammit!! Don’t ruin Pottery Barn!! :mad:

Crate & Barrel?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39186 "2019-12-05T16:51:59Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> And every dictator _ever_. If you got blindfolded in Trump Tower and then got zipped magically to the Al Fawr palace in Baghdad, you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference. And rumor has it that Vlad the Impaler has recreated the Amber Room at the Kremlin.

Did the Amber Room or the Al Fawr palace have BEDBUGS?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39187 "2019-12-05T16:53:04Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Except, of course, for the gold spray paint and Pottery Barn price tags still attached.

rofl

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39188 "2019-12-05T16:54:14Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If a Democrat wins, I sincerely hope one of the first steps is to scour that server for incriminating documents and if they exist, release them. The world needs to know just how corrupt this bozo is.

Damn right. And then, since the orange fucker will not be prez anymore, lock him up.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39189 "2019-12-05T17:18:36Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Nitpick: according to every heraldic description I’ve come across, it would be “a chamber pot or” (no “of”).
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> In any case, IMHO **Nava** was more accurate. “Or” implies solid gold, while “gilded” implies a veneer of gold over base metal. Well nigh perfect description of House Drumpf.

“Or” is just a tincture, rendered as a strong shade of yellow. But perhaps the better description would be something like “a chamber pot argent, piss stains”.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39190 "2019-12-05T17:51:47Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [Trump nominee who is anti-IVF and surrogacy was deemed unqualified. She was just confirmed.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-nominee-who-is-anti-ivf-and-surrogacy-was-deemed-unqualified-she-was-just-confirmed/ar-BBXMdgn?li=BBnb7Kz)
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> > “Ms. Pitlyk has never tried a case as lead or co-counsel, whether civil or criminal,” Hubbard wrote. “She has never examined a witness. Though Ms. Pitlyk has argued one case in a court of appeals, she has not taken a deposition. She has not argued any motion in a state or federal trial court. She has never picked a jury. She has never participated at any stage of a criminal matter.”
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> I don’t get it. I know he wants a particular political bent, but surely there are some lawyers who have tried cases who fit the bill?

Yes, but she’s watched EVERY episode of the original L&O, and she STILL watches SVU faithfully. FFS, doesn’t that count for anything in America today??

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39191 "2019-12-05T18:43:02Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Crate & Barrel?

Not cheap and nasty enough. Let’s go with Walmart.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39192 "2019-12-05T18:44:38Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [Trump nominee who is anti-IVF and surrogacy was deemed unqualified. She was just confirmed.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-nominee-who-is-anti-ivf-and-surrogacy-was-deemed-unqualified-she-was-just-confirmed/ar-BBXMdgn?li=BBnb7Kz)
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> I don’t get it. I know he wants a particular political bent, but surely there are some lawyers who have tried cases who fit the bill?

The point is active sabotage of the judicial system. When viewed through that lens, it makes sense.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39193 "2019-12-05T18:46:02Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> The point is active sabotage of the judicial system. When viewed through that lens, it makes sense.

Yes, absolutely. It’s all deliberate.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39194 "2019-12-05T18:49:41Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> The point is active sabotage of the judicial system. When viewed through that lens, it makes sense.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Yes, absolutely. It’s all deliberate.

Definitely. And not just the judicial system-- at every level and when/wherever possible, let’s remove _professionals_, i.e., people who trained for this, do it for a living, and have been doing it for decades. They’re just uppity and think they’re better than everyone else.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39195 "2019-12-05T18:52:54Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Definitely. And not just the judicial system-- **at every level and when/wherever possible** , let’s remove _professionals_, i.e., people who trained for this, do it for a living, and have been doing it for decades. They’re just uppity and think they’re better than everyone else.

The courts, the DoJ, ICE, the EPA, now the Pentagon and military in general, that fucker is trying to turn all the agencies into his personal goon squad.

In short, in accordance with many historical precedences, he is actually trying to become a dictator.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39196 "2019-12-05T18:53:42Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If a Democrat wins, I sincerely hope one of the first steps is to scour that server for incriminating documents and if they exist, release them. The world needs to know just how corrupt this bozo is.

The scary thing is that quite a lot of people among his own supporters do indeed know this, but don’t care or can apply an Orwellian doublethink exercise to convince themselves that it’s worth caring about and not worth caring about at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39197 "2019-12-05T18:54:14Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “Or” is just a tincture, rendered as a strong shade of yellow. But perhaps the better description would be something like “a chamber pot argent, piss stains”.

Just go with “a chamber pot gilded and befouled proper”

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39198 "2019-12-05T18:57:47Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Definitely. And not just the judicial system-- at every level and when/wherever possible, let’s remove _professionals_, i.e., people who trained for this, do it for a living, and have been doing it for decades. They’re just uppity and think they’re better than everyone else.

Exactly. If anyone remains in doubt that Trump is taking his instructions from Vlad on Ten Easy Steps to Becoming a Dictator in Your Own Country, I’ve got beachfront property in Nevada…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39199 "2019-12-05T18:58:46Z")

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First the cool kids mock him, and now even the weirdos with the funny hair are joining in:

> [@](#):
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> [North Korea threatens to resume calling Trump ‘dotard’](https://apnews.com/c3f58108244e4c6097222ac372307598)
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> North Korea threatened Thursday to resume insults of U.S. President Donald Trump and consider him a “dotard” if he keeps using provocative language, such as referring to its leader as “rocket man.”…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39200 "2019-12-05T19:08:42Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I’ve got beachfront property in Nevada…

I wouldn’t mind a place on the shore of Lake Mead…

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39201 "2019-12-05T19:14:19Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind a place on the shore of Lake Mead…

Lake Tahoe’s pretty nice, too, I hear, even if half the shoreline is in liberal homeless-loving _California_.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39202 "2019-12-05T19:21:19Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Lake Tahoe’s pretty nice, too, I hear, even if half the shoreline is in **liberal homeless-loving _California_**.

Don’t worry. Next big earthquake, it’s _gone_. Trust me!

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39203 "2019-12-05T19:44:19Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The word is “or”. As in “a chamber pot of or”.

That would have been if it was gold. I very specifically was making it not gold.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39204 "2019-12-05T20:22:09Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> That would have been if it was gold. I very specifically was making it not gold.

aww, that shitter is not gold?

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