# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1963
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39245 "2019-12-08T21:04:36Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 is running ads claiming the Democrats have filed treason charges against him. > [https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-campaign-runs-misleading-anti-impeachment-facebook-ads-163800835--abc-news-topstories.html](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-campaign-runs-misleading-anti-impeachment-facebook-ads-163800835--abc-news-topstories.html) And…? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39246 "2019-12-08T21:42:26Z")
The Kennedy Center Honors dinner for honorees was last night. One of the honorees was Linda Ronstadt, and at one point, Mike Pompeo asked her, “When will I be loved?” And she replied, “Maybe when you stop enabling Donald Trump.” > **[Linda Ronstadt says Mike Pompeo is ‘enabling Donald Trump’ at Kennedy Center...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/linda-ronstadt-says-mike-pompeo-is-enabling-donald-trump-at-kennedy-center-honors-dinner/2019/12/08/206d3c8e-19ed-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html)** > > The singer, who is one of the honorees, made a dig at the secretary of state during a speech. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39247 "2019-12-08T22:38:05Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > This. I saw that Raw Story story, and googled it to find the more complete story. Found MANY cites from that ancient tale, and NONE for anything more recent. Raw Story (and perhaps their alter-ego AlterNet) seem to be the only sites carrying it at this late date. What’s up with that? > > Are there more sites picking up the story currently than just those two from earlier today? It appears that twitter is a thing where stuff turns up. Someone tweeted that, and it got enough attention that Raw Story decided it was worth newsing about. They probably should have put a caveat about it being so old. I mean, that would be my policy were I running a news-like site. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39248 "2019-12-08T22:52:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Isn’t Rudy Colludy there as a “private citizen”? Does this mean I can travel to, say, Mexico, then send a report to the Attorney General on my findings? Heh. My next trip to Thailand, I’ll send the AG a detailed report on live lesbian sex shows. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39249 "2019-12-08T23:05:23Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Heh. My next trip to Thailand, I’ll send the AG a detailed report on live lesbian sex shows. Can you cc me? Asking for a friend. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39250 "2019-12-08T23:39:40Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Isn’t Rudy Colludy there as a “private citizen”? Does this mean I can travel to, say, Mexico, then send a report to the Attorney General on my findings? I’m sure you could. And I’m sure a normal AG in a normal administration would waste no time in giving it the attention it deserves, if you know what I mean. But in this administration they probably have an entire Assistant AG Division devoted to running down whack-a-doodle conspiracy theories they get in the mail. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39251 "2019-12-08T23:51:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **Trump: Giuliani Will Deliver A Report To Barr, Congress On His Findings In > Ukraine** > [Trump: Giuliani Will Deliver A Report To Barr, Congress On His Findings In Ukraine](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-guiliani-report-congress-barr-findings-ukraine-latest-trip) > > Tremble in fear, brothers and sisters, pals and gals. This is all so ugly. But I admit I’ve had a few giggles to think of how Barr is reacting, when he recently [went to such trouble to put distance between himself and Rudy Colludey](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-wanted-barr-to-hold-news-conference-saying-the-president-broke-no-laws-in-call-with-ukrainian-leader/2019/11/06/16d541ec-ff55-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html). (WaPo) I’m sure he’s thrilled to know Trump is out there making a declaration that Giuliani will soon report to Barr about his latest Ukraine “findings.” Even Barr seems to know there is some shit you can’t scrape off your shoes. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39252 "2019-12-09T00:42:44Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > \*\*Trump: Giuliani Will Deliver A Report To Barr, Congress On His Findings In > > Ukraine\*\* > > [Trump: Giuliani Will Deliver A Report To Barr, Congress On His Findings In Ukraine](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-guiliani-report-congress-barr-findings-ukraine-latest-trip) > > Tremble in fear, brothers and sisters, pals and gals. Did Trump say that would happen in “two to three week’s time”? Because when Trump says that, it means never. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39253 "2019-12-09T01:05:33Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > It’s Sharpie time! To the Sharpiemobile! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39254 "2019-12-09T01:11:40Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Did Trump say that would happen in “two to three week’s time”? Because when Trump says that, it means never. It will happen right after those investigators that Trump hired report back from Hawaii about Obama’s birth certificate. He has “people that have been studying Obama’s birth certificate and they cannot believe what they’re finding” Any day now. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39255 "2019-12-09T06:21:11Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 is running ads claiming the Democrats have filed treason charges against him. > [https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-campaign-runs-misleading-anti-impeachment-facebook-ads-163800835--abc-news-topstories.html](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-campaign-runs-misleading-anti-impeachment-facebook-ads-163800835--abc-news-topstories.html) So when the House, or a future Justice Dept. really does file charges of treason against him, he can say “You heard it from me first!” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39256 "2019-12-09T22:02:06Z")
[Methodist church trolls ICE](https://mashable.com/article/claremont-umc-nativity-scene-family-separation/) by putting up a nativity scene with the central family in 3 separate cages. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39257 "2019-12-09T23:20:32Z")
[He’s “joking” about “serving” beyond two terms again.](https://twitter.com/i/status/1203537499303231489) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39258 "2019-12-09T23:22:54Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > [He’s “joking” about “serving” beyond two terms again.](https://twitter.com/i/status/1203537499303231489) If Obama had “joked” about that, the talking heads on Fox would have been screaming about it for weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39259 "2019-12-09T23:25:07Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > [He’s “joking” about “serving” beyond two terms again.](https://twitter.com/i/status/1203537499303231489) Aren’t you getting ahead of yourself, Donnie ? Do you really think you’re getting even a second one ? I mean, do you really ? There aren’t _that_ many people you haven’t fucked over. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39260 "2019-12-10T01:43:08Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Aren’t you getting ahead of yourself, Donnie ? Do you really think you’re getting even a second one ? I mean, do you really ? There aren’t _that_ many people you haven’t fucked over. Yet. If Vlad has assured him he’ll win in November, then he knows he will win in November. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39261 "2019-12-10T14:53:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If Obama had “joked” about that, the talking heads on Fox would have been screaming about it for weeks. If Obama mainly communicated by Twitter, Faux News would be calling for instant impeachment. Remember the tan suit? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39262 "2019-12-10T15:08:51Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > If Obama mainly communicated by Twitter, Faux News would be calling for instant impeachment. Remember the tan suit? [Lest we forget—lest we forget!](https://imgflip.com/i/3j04k5) ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39263 "2019-12-10T15:49:45Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Lest we forget—lest we forget!](https://imgflip.com/i/3j04k5) I know it’s /s And all the other presidents in tan suits - [http://tinyurl.com/tqbqyeb](http://tinyurl.com/tqbqyeb) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39264 "2019-12-10T16:13:24Z")
The Orange One Tweets: > [@](#): > > I don’t know what report current Director of the FBI Christopher Wray was reading, but it sure wasn’t the one given to me. With that kind of attitude, he will never be able to fix the FBI, which is badly broken despite having some of the greatest men & women working there! > Really? Did he get a different version from the one everyone else got? > [@](#): > > Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on the investigation into the Russia scandal was mostly, but not entirely, good news for the FBI. On the one hand, Horowitz found that the bureau and its leadership acted appropriately in launching its probe, and the FBI’s handling of the matter wasn’t tainted by partisan or political bias. > > On the other hand, the inspector general also found bureau officials made mistakes in parts of its application to monitor Carter Page, the controversial Trump campaign adviser with close ties to the Kremlin. It’s sparked new discussion about reforming the process through which law enforcement seeks investigatory authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). > > For his part, FBI Director Christopher Wray appears to have responded to the findings in a constructive way, ordering a series of “corrective steps to address the report’s recommendations.” Wray also did an interview in which he took a degree of pride in the core findings of the Horowitz investigation. > > … > > In other words, Wray said the opposite of what Donald Trump wanted him to say – a development that did not go unnoticed in the White House. > **[Trump's troubles with his own handpicked FBI director reach new stage](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-troubles-his-own-handpicked-fbi-director-reach-new-stage-msna1312436)** > > FBI Director Chris Wray is saying the opposite of what Donald Trump wants him to say, pushing their strained relationship to the breaking point. I suspect Horowitz will not be in his office much longer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1962) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1964)