# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39345 "2019-12-15T20:19:26Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I meant to post this here, but I mistakenly posted it into another thread:
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> [Trump’s answer to being impeached for criminal phone call is to not let others listen in anymore](https://www.frontpagelive.com/2019/12/15/trumps-answer-to-being-impeached-for-criminal-phone-call-dont-let-others-listen-in-anymore/).

What about translators? Not all foreign leaders speak Russian.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39346 "2019-12-16T06:27:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What about translators? Not all foreign leaders speak Russian.

He’ll rely on Putin’s people.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39347 "2019-12-16T07:05:46Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> He’ll rely on Putin’s people.

You mean Putin’s _other_ people, right? Tan the Conman _is_ one of Putin’s people.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39348 "2019-12-16T11:34:20Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> They SHOULD have gone to jail for fraud.

Channeling her inner Leona Helmsley: “Only little people go to jail.”

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39349 "2019-12-16T14:41:49Z")

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It’s pretty clear at this point that Trump is [not going to participate in any debates in 2020](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1206581028283965441), and yet his followers will see this as a sign of strength and not the sign of an idiot realizing the limits of his limited capacity.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39350 "2019-12-16T15:14:31Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> It’s pretty clear at this point that Trump is [not going to participate in any debates in 2020](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1206581028283965441), and yet his followers will see this as a sign of strength and not the sign of an idiot realizing the limits of his limited capacity.

I may be wrong, but I bet he does one debate. But just one, and it’ll be on his terms.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39351 "2019-12-16T15:34:13Z")

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“I’d like to debate Jim - a very, very substantial guy.”

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39352 "2019-12-16T15:41:47Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I may be wrong, but I bet he does one debate. But just one, and it’ll be on his terms.

Questions in advance to him only, teleprompters for him only, held at a MAGA rally. Does that sound about right?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39353 "2019-12-16T15:56:12Z")

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You forgot only an edited version after the fact.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39354 "2019-12-16T16:35:34Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Questions in advance to him only, teleprompters for him only, held at a MAGA rally. Does that sound about right?

Should be “Questions written by him in advance.”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39355 "2019-12-16T16:40:34Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Questions in advance to him only, teleprompters for him only, held at a MAGA rally. Does that sound about right?

We already know that people don’t actually care about substance when they watch debates. Trump technically ‘lost’ all three debates to Clinton, but it didn’t hurt his standing. People think that we’re going to defeat Trump and Trumpism with epistemology, and that’s a dangerously misguided assumption. Trump will use the ‘debate’ to show off his aggression, in the same way that the alpha chimp flings shit and shakes trees.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39356 "2019-12-16T16:44:17Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Should be “Questions written by him in advance.”

Yeah, if he wrote them, a normal human being probably couldn’t parse them for meaning, giving him another much-needed advantage.

I firmly believe that he will not debate.

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39357 "2019-12-16T16:54:36Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> It’s pretty clear at this point that Trump is [not going to participate in any debates in 2020](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1206581028283965441), and yet his followers will see this as a sign of strength and not the sign of an idiot realizing the limits of his limited capacity.

You need only look at how Trump handles the press to see that his democratic challenger will need to bring their A game to the table. If the democratic contender drank the “Russia Kool-Aid” they’re finished, he’s going to murder them.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39358 "2019-12-16T17:01:54Z")

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_Someone_ drank the Kool-aid.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39359 "2019-12-16T17:18:05Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> You need only look at how Trump handles the press to see that his democratic challenger will need to bring their A game to the table. If the democratic contender drank the “Russia Kool-Aid” they’re finished, he’s going to murder them.

You’re an idiot

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39360 "2019-12-16T17:57:09Z")

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> [@Greathouse](#):
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> You’re an idiot

He is. But in this instance, I am not convinced that he is wrong.

Trump is a master at deflected anything real that is asked and pivoting him back to what he wants he wants to say. Which will probably be some variant of ‘Lock her up!!!’ It will be difficult to counter back to message and not become flustered, especially if the crowd starts chanting.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39361 "2019-12-16T18:10:23Z")

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The Trump administration is going to allow banks to count loans to build sports stadiums as aid to the poor under the Community Reinvestment Act, allowing them to take a generous tax break.

[https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-12-16/banks-may-call-nfl-stadium-financing-aid-to-poor-in-rule-change?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-12-16/banks-may-call-nfl-stadium-financing-aid-to-poor-in-rule-change?__twitter_impression=true)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39362 "2019-12-16T18:56:40Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The Trump administration is going to allow banks to count loans to build sports stadiums as aid to the poor under the Community Reinvestment Act, allowing them to take a generous tax break.
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> [https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-12-16/banks-may-call-nfl-stadium-financing-aid-to-poor-in-rule-change?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-12-16/banks-may-call-nfl-stadium-financing-aid-to-poor-in-rule-change?__twitter_impression=true)

This will make more sense down the road when we start holding mortal combat in the arenas between poor people and wild beasts.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39363 "2019-12-16T19:13:17Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> This will make more sense down the road when we start holding mortal combat in the arenas between poor people and wild beasts.

Fine as long as no togas. Seriously, I do \*\*not \*\*want to see Trump in a toga.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39364 "2019-12-16T20:30:41Z")

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Trump just straight up retweeted a QAnon poster.

[https://mobile.twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1206586971897892864?s=20](https://mobile.twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1206586971897892864?s=20)

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