# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 197
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3921 "2017-05-03T22:08:07Z")
“He’s so wonderful. I wish Mother were here, she’d approve.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3922 "2017-05-03T22:08:20Z")
Trump has invited conservative leaders to the White House on Thursday for\*\* National Prayer Day \*\*where he may sign an executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom.” [“Freedom of religion is a sacred right, but it is also a right under threat all around us.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-considering-order-on-religious-freedom-that-critics-warn-could-lead-to-discrimination/2017/02/02/631ea41a-e8ee-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.4c9640b9e9f8) said Shit For Brains. A draft of the order was previously [leaked to The Nation](https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/) . How special. Let us pray. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3923 "2017-05-03T22:22:43Z")
More proof that the right wing definition of ‘freedom’ is 180° away from the real definition. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3924 "2017-05-03T22:24:35Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > How special. Let us pray. That this man has the evangelical support means that I no longer have to take evangelicals remotely seriously. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3925 "2017-05-03T22:25:11Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Probably; certainly that look of reverence is bizarre enough to have caught many people’s continuing attention. > > I mean, not even Lindsey Graham looks at his soul-mate John McCain that way. It’s time for Karen Pence to start chaperoning the VP when he’s with Trump. Same as when he’s dining with another woman or near alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3926 "2017-05-03T22:27:34Z")
> [@](#): > > … he may sign an executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom.” Say what you will about him, he can sign his name like a sumbitch! I know, because he picks the paper up and shows us, look! See! Right there! ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3927 "2017-05-03T23:03:01Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > That this man has the evangelical support means that I no longer have to take evangelicals remotely seriously. Amen to that. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3928 "2017-05-03T23:24:12Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Trump has invited conservative leaders to the White House on Thursday for\*\* National Prayer Day \*\*where he may sign an executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom.” > > [“Freedom of religion is a sacred right, but it is also a right under threat all around us.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-considering-order-on-religious-freedom-that-critics-warn-could-lead-to-discrimination/2017/02/02/631ea41a-e8ee-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.4c9640b9e9f8) said Shit For Brains. A draft of the order was previously [leaked to The Nation](https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/) . > > How special. Let us pray. Freedom of religion is already protected by law (First Amendment). One group (a large group) of religious types blasted this abomination… for “enshrining one [conservative] religious perspective” above others. “Although it purports to strengthen religious freedom, what this order would actually do is misuse this freedom, turning it into a weapon to discriminate against broad swaths of our nation, including LGBTQ people, women, and children in foster care,” “We urge you to turn away from all proposals that would abuse religious freedom, including any executive orders on this issue that are currently under consideration.” “Furthermore, freedom of religion guarantees us the right to hold any belief we choose and to act on our religious beliefs, but it does not allow us to harm others in the name of those beliefs.” [https://www.clergyunitedagainstdiscrimination.org/](https://www.clergyunitedagainstdiscrimination.org/) ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3929 "2017-05-03T23:24:36Z")
I do not believe that Trumpy Wumpy is in the least bit religious, faithful, etc. This is part of the deal he promised to the bootstrapping republicans. How many times has this religious freedom bill, or one like it, was trying to get passed? 15? 30? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3930 "2017-05-03T23:33:16Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Trump has invited conservative leaders to the White House on Thursday for\*\* National Prayer Day \*\*where he may sign an executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom.” > > [“Freedom of religion is a sacred right, but it is also a right under threat all around us.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-considering-order-on-religious-freedom-that-critics-warn-could-lead-to-discrimination/2017/02/02/631ea41a-e8ee-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.4c9640b9e9f8) said Shit For Brains. A draft of the order was previously [leaked to The Nation](https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/) . > > How special. Let us pray. Well, unless you’re Muslim, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3931 "2017-05-04T02:40:21Z")
State Department hires a guy who was accused of sexual molestation of young men years ago and his details are all over the Internet, but they apparently didn’t care. > **[Trump State Department hired assistant chief accused of sexual assault](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-state-dept-hired-assistant-chief-accused-sexual-assault-article-1.3134518)** > > The allegations against Steven Munoz had previously surfaced after he worked for Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3932 "2017-05-04T03:03:21Z")
A new scent from the old world [https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/ae1a2cbc62ea1d6c599e3968f294219b.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/ae1a2cbc62ea1d6c599e3968f294219b.jpg) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3933 "2017-05-04T03:06:26Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > State Department hires a guy who was accused of sexual molestation of young men years ago and his details are all over the Internet, but they apparently didn’t care. > [Trump State Department hired assistant chief accused of sexual assault – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-state-dept-hired-assistant-chief-accused-sexual-assault-article-1.3134518) He comes pre-scandalized; no need for seasoning. He’s perfect for them. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3934 "2017-05-04T03:36:20Z")
How many _actual_ scandals did the previous administration become embroiled in? I mean, not that ben-something thing. I think the Solyndra thing was not so good, but no one ever got much traction on that. What is the depravity ratio between the two, adjusted for time? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3935 "2017-05-04T03:57:57Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > A new scent from the old world … Brokedick Mountain ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3936 "2017-05-04T04:03:04Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > That’s the kind of leadership we need! Let us join our President in hoping that the hate goes away! Pray Away the Fray? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3937 "2017-05-04T04:04:49Z")
> [@](#): > > …" discriminate against broad swaths of our nation, including LGBTQ people, women, and children in foster care” … OK, I understand that some butt-clenched “Christians” have a bat in their bonnet about LGBTQ and have very retro ideas about women, but WTF is with foster children? Unless “Suffer the little children to come unto me” was some kind of veiled threat. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3938 "2017-05-04T04:31:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > State Department hires a guy who was accused of sexual molestation of young men years ago and his details are all over the Internet, but they apparently didn’t care. > [Trump State Department hired assistant chief accused of sexual assault – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-state-dept-hired-assistant-chief-accused-sexual-assault-article-1.3134518) You could have quoted this spectacular rationalization: > [@](#): > > Other claims in a 2012 police report include Munoz saying “it was more okay for guys to be with guys sexually before marriage than to be with girls and that God would be less angry at the two guys messing around than a guy and a girl.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3939 "2017-05-04T04:34:37Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > That’s the kind of leadership we need! Let us join our President in hoping that the hate goes away! Pray Away the Fray? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3940 "2017-05-04T13:43:51Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Pray Away the Fray? > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Pray Away the Fray? Deja vu all over again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=196) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=198)