# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3941 "2017-05-04T13:52:47Z")

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Ah, they’re 1920’s-style Death Frays.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3942 "2017-05-04T14:21:19Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> He comes pre-scandalized; no need for seasoning. He’s perfect for them.
> 
> Stranger

How do you blackmail someone like that?

Blackmailer:“I have dirt on you, do what I say!”

Republican Scumbag:“My employer, my family, and the public all know I am a pedophile.”

Blackmailer:“Oh, nevermind then…”

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3943 "2017-05-04T14:27:48Z")

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Can’t wait to see how this turns out.

> [@](#):
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> Trump puts critic of renewable energy in charge of renewable energy office  
> By Juliet Eilperin and Brady Dennis  
> President Trump has appointed Daniel Simmons, a conservative scholar who sharply questioned the value of promoting renewable energy sources and curbs on greenhouse gas emissions, to oversee the Energy Department’s Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE), according to an email distributed to department employees.
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> The selection marks one of several recent Trump appointments to top energy and environmental posts, which appear to repudiate the Obama administration’s policies aimed at shifting the nation to low-carbon sources of electricity. Last week, Trump nominated David Bernhardt, a lobbyist who served at the Interior Department under George W. Bush, as Interior’s deputy secretary. And Alex Herrgott, who had served as majority deputy staff director at the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, has joined the White House Council on Environmental Quality to serve as associate director for infrastructure.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3944 "2017-05-04T14:31:25Z")

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So later on today the house will vote on the GOP [health care bill](http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/we-will-pass-this-bill-republicans-set-sights-on-obamacare-again-1.3397442).

Don’t those bill supporters realise that the following: The American Medical Association, American Nurses Association, American College of Physicians, National Nurses United, National Physicians Alliance, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, American Academy of Pediatrics (to name but a few) are NOT in favour of this?

How can they fucking disregard this?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3945 "2017-05-04T14:36:01Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Ah, they’re 1920’s-style Death Frays.

Nice! 😃

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3946 "2017-05-04T14:41:48Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> So later on today the house will vote on the GOP [health care bill](http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/we-will-pass-this-bill-republicans-set-sights-on-obamacare-again-1.3397442).
> 
> Don’t those bill supporters realise that the following: The American Medical Association, American Nurses Association, American College of Physicians, National Nurses United, National Physicians Alliance, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, American Academy of Pediatrics (to name but a few) are NOT in favour of this?
> 
> How can they fucking disregard this?

Did any of those associations buy a politician?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3947 "2017-05-04T14:49:57Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> Can’t wait to see how this turns out.

He put a [climate change denier in charge of the EPA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcg1-P17Vw), an [anti-education religious fundamentalist with no administrative experience in charge of the Department of Education](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnibHBkDFO4), and a [man who called to close the Department of Energy](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/rick-perry-energy-department.html?_r=0) as its Cabinet Secretary (even though [he couldn’t remember what it was called](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwG67GpJ63E)). This is less surprising than than a Cadbury Creme Egg on Easter.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3948 "2017-05-04T14:52:30Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> So later on today the house will vote on the GOP [health care bill](http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/we-will-pass-this-bill-republicans-set-sights-on-obamacare-again-1.3397442).
> 
> Don’t those bill supporters realise that the following: The American Medical Association, American Nurses Association, American College of Physicians, National Nurses United, National Physicians Alliance, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, American Academy of Pediatrics (to name but a few) are NOT in favour of this?
> 
> How can they fucking disregard this?

Who would benefit from chaos in the healthcare industry? Because that’s what passing a cobbled-together bill that benefits no one but the super rich and impacts 1/5 of our economy will do.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3949 "2017-05-04T15:20:58Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Who would benefit from chaos in the healthcare industry? Because that’s what passing a cobbled-together bill that benefits no one but the super rich and impacts 1/5 of our economy will do.

Didn’t you just answer your own question? The super rich.

It’ll also, in a feel-good sort of way, benefit the Tea Partiers who get what they’ve always wanted from an ideological point of view; hurting poor people, especially if they’re women.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3950 "2017-05-04T15:26:04Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> So later on today the house will vote on the GOP [health care bill](http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/we-will-pass-this-bill-republicans-set-sights-on-obamacare-again-1.3397442).
> 
> Don’t those bill supporters realise that the following: The American Medical Association, American Nurses Association, American College of Physicians, National Nurses United, National Physicians Alliance, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, American Academy of Pediatrics (to name but a few) are NOT in favour of this?
> 
> How can they fucking disregard this?

With great joy, while holding up their middle fingers and shouting “Fuck you!” to the the American public at large.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3951 "2017-05-04T15:47:24Z")

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If it didn’t involve so many lives, I’d be more than happy to let the Republicans own their healthcare mess, as it’s political poison.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3952 "2017-05-04T16:12:20Z")

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Pence owes Trump a hummer as [Trump signs order aimed at allowing churches to engage in more political activity](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.a66346d2316e).

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3953 "2017-05-04T17:16:21Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Pence owes Trump a hummer as [Trump signs order aimed at allowing churches to engage in more political activity](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.a66346d2316e).

Hypocritical to the core. Here’s Trump, possibly the LEAST religious man in the country, doesn’t go to church until six months into his campaign, signs a law to promote discrimination. It’s the “go ahead and discriminate in the name of religion, folks” law.

This is going to twist in so many ways. We’ll be hearing about mechanics refusing to fix women’s cars because they should be making babies and praying to Jesus. We’ll hear about schools expelling kids of gay parents, and plenty of bottom feeders like that Oklahoma creepazoid who refused to give the SSM license last year. (Glad I don’t remember her name.) :mad:

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3954 "2017-05-04T17:19:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Pence owes Trump a hummer as [Trump signs order aimed at allowing churches to engage in more political activity](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.a66346d2316e).

I wonder how he squares this with his ban on Muslims?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3955 "2017-05-04T17:24:46Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Didn’t you just answer your own question? The super rich.

Touché.

> [@](#):
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> We’ll hear about schools expelling kids of gay parents, and plenty of bottom feeders like that Oklahoma creepazoid who refused to give the SSM license last year. (Glad I don’t remember her name.)

\*Kentucky \*creepazoid.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3956 "2017-05-04T17:44:57Z")

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Congress [rejects Labor Dept. rule](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/congress-rejects-labor-dept-rule-221637716.html) for state retirement plans.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch [“Cecil Turtle”](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcSsBuvu8PU/hqdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzcSsBuvu8PU&h=360&w=480&tbnid=BViy9yTdG7qJyM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&usg=__An7JseYmyRiyz9DmNRRWRmYtvw0=&vet=10ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK..i&docid=U1Xqt0h_1Egk1M&itg=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK&ei=MGgLWdHtO4TejwOU7LfICg) McConnell, R-Ky. says, While the state-run plans “might not seem too bad on the surface, what they really add up to is more government at the expense of the private sector and American workers,”.

In short, the same old, McConnell, bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3957 "2017-05-04T18:06:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> In short, the same old, McConnell, bullshit.

Sorry, Citizen, but this is the Trump Administration thread, not the Stupid Republican Idea thread. For all his faults, McConnell was not horrible enough to be given a White House position.

Other than mid-day conjugal visits with his wife.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3958 "2017-05-04T18:13:33Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Pence owes Trump a hummer as [Trump signs order aimed at allowing churches to engage in more political activity](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.a66346d2316e).

Do not need the imagery!

> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Senate Majority Leader Mitch [“Cecil Turtle”](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcSsBuvu8PU/hqdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzcSsBuvu8PU&h=360&w=480&tbnid=BViy9yTdG7qJyM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&usg=__An7JseYmyRiyz9DmNRRWRmYtvw0=&vet=10ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK..i&docid=U1Xqt0h_1Egk1M&itg=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK&ei=MGgLWdHtO4TejwOU7LfICg) McConnell, R-Ky.

I think of him more as “Speed Bag” McConnell. His head is just the perfect size and shape to hang from a hook and [hit as quickly as you can for minutes on end](https://youtu.be/Hk66nbEOtBg).

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3959 "2017-05-04T18:25:07Z")

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Meanwhile, administration Thin-Skin [has convicted a woman for laughing at Sessions](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/04/desiree-fairooz-laughing-jeff-sessions-confirmation-hearing).

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3960 "2017-05-04T19:06:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Senate Majority Leader Mitch [“Cecil Turtle”](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcSsBuvu8PU/hqdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzcSsBuvu8PU&h=360&w=480&tbnid=BViy9yTdG7qJyM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&usg=__An7JseYmyRiyz9DmNRRWRmYtvw0=&vet=10ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK..i&docid=U1Xqt0h_1Egk1M&itg=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK&ei=MGgLWdHtO4TejwOU7LfICg) McConnell, R-Ky. says, While the state-run plans “might not seem too bad on the surface, what they really add up to is more government at the expense of the private sector and American workers,”.

I always thought McConnell looks more like[a turtle by the name of Bert](https://s3.amazonaws.com/gs-geo-images/8dea6137-5b58-4648-874b-0e9ba9438a2b_l.jpg).

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