# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3961 "2017-05-04T21:13:57Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Congress [rejects Labor Dept. rule](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/congress-rejects-labor-dept-rule-221637716.html) for state retirement plans.  
> Senate Majority Leader Mitch [“Cecil Turtle”](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcSsBuvu8PU/hqdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzcSsBuvu8PU&h=360&w=480&tbnid=BViy9yTdG7qJyM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=200&usg=__An7JseYmyRiyz9DmNRRWRmYtvw0=&vet=10ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK..i&docid=U1Xqt0h_1Egk1M&itg=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRxdX05NbTAhUE72MKHRT2DakQ_B0IcTAK&ei=MGgLWdHtO4TejwOU7LfICg) McConnell, R-Ky. says, While the state-run plans “might not seem too bad on the surface, what they really add up to is more government at the expense of the private sector and American workers,”.  
> In short, the same old, McConnell, bullshit.

The Senate vote is likely to take away from 55 million workers the only hope they’d had of getting some sort of pension when they’re too old to work anymore.

In a just world, every time a Republican takes another dollar away from the working class to hand to the billionaire class with the pious words “we’re fighting Big Government,” they’d be magically transported to a Chinese factory bench, where they could contemplate their dislike of government protections of workers during their 14-hour work-shift.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3962 "2017-05-04T22:30:53Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> The Senate vote is likely to take away from 55 million workers the only hope they’d had of getting some sort of pension when they’re too old to work anymore.
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> In a just world, every time a Republican takes another dollar away from the working class to hand to the billionaire class with the pious words “we’re fighting Big Government,” they’d be magically transported to a Chinese factory bench, where they could contemplate their dislike of government protections of workers during their 14-hour work-shift.

Nice **Sherrerd**. Oh, and along with the 14-hour work-shift (and that’s a 7 day a week 14-hour-work-shift), no health insurance for they and their families.

In other news, [Artist Raising $250K To Fly Pigs Outside Trump Tower](https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170504/downtown/trump-tower-flying-pigs-president-donald-trump-artist-jeffrey-roberts).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3963 "2017-05-05T02:46:47Z")

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The State Department’s Office of Global Women’s Issues official Twitter account retweeted Ivanka’s tweet promoting her book.  
[State Department Promotes Ivanka Trump's Book In Another Ethics Blunder | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ivanka-trump-book-state-department_us_590b7f4fe4b0104c734d035f)?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3964 "2017-05-05T03:36:58Z")

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**Trump** names a birth control czar [who doesn’t believe in birth control](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-names-a-birth-control-czar-who-doesnt-believe-in-birth-control/2017/05/04/5de459f8-3101-11e7-8674-437ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.63367747f8f1). :eek:

:smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3965 "2017-05-05T03:42:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The State Department’s Office of Global Women’s Issues official Twitter account retweeted Ivanka’s tweet promoting her book.  
> [State Department Promotes Ivanka Trump's Book In Another Ethics Blunder | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ivanka-trump-book-state-department_us_590b7f4fe4b0104c734d035f)?

‘What’s this about ethics? Didn’t I build a wall to keep them out?’

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3966 "2017-05-05T03:51:43Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> **Trump** names a birth control czar [who doesn’t believe in birth control](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-names-a-birth-control-czar-who-doesnt-believe-in-birth-control/2017/05/04/5de459f8-3101-11e7-8674-437ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.63367747f8f1). :eek:
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> :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

Yeah, definitely not the right person for the job:

> [@](#):
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> “Of course, contraception doesn’t work. Its efficacy is very low,” she said during a 2003 NPR interview. She continued, “In fact, the incidence of contraception use and the incidence of abortion go up hand in hand.” And appearing on a 2003 panel about a book she edited , she said, “I always shake my head. You know, family planning is what occurs between a husband and a wife and **God**".

My bold. Oh good - dropping the g word, that’s certainly promising. (hey what can I say - the guy gets around)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3967 "2017-05-05T16:18:07Z")

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White House [**fires** its chief usher](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/05/white-house-fires-its-chief-usher-the-first-woman-in-that-job/?utm_term=.c595af1b9b66) — the first woman in that job.

Fuckers.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3968 "2017-05-05T18:30:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> White House [**fires** its chief usher](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/05/white-house-fires-its-chief-usher-the-first-woman-in-that-job/?utm_term=.c595af1b9b66) — the first woman in that job.
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> Fuckers.

She is African-American as well. Wasn’t there a lot of rumors about how black employees had to hide when Trump visited his properties, particularly the casinos? Were any of those rumors substantiated?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3969 "2017-05-05T18:47:05Z")

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I’m sure that as all these _People Who Vote Republican And Voted For Trump_ start to die because of NO HEALTH CARE, they will go with a smile, while yelling “FREEDOM!”

They’re getting exactly what they voted for.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3970 "2017-05-05T19:33:28Z")

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An FDA office is reporting that they have been given a directive from the White House that all internal television monitors must be turned to Fox News.

> **[At FDA, TVs now turned to Fox News and can't be switched](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/)**
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> CBS News confirms FDA researchers directed to display Fox News on "all monitors," rather than CNN

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3971 "2017-05-05T19:35:32Z")

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And then turned down, and then turned to the wall. Easy enough to deal with. Sad that you have a State propaganda network though. And that it’s Fox news.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3972 "2017-05-05T19:37:46Z")

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They won’t smile and yell “Freedom,” but they’ll blame Obama, or liberals, or whatever. Very few will blame Trump, even if their problems are immediately attributable to the ACHA.

Of course, now the Senate apparently won’t pass ACHA, so who knows. I do know that if they fail to do anything and Obamacare remains the law, Trumpists will choose to believe Trumpcare passed, and will attribute all positive things about health care to it.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3973 "2017-05-05T19:41:05Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I’m sure that as all these _People Who Vote Republican And Voted For Trump_ start to die because of NO HEALTH CARE, they will go with a smile, while yelling “FREEDOM!”
> 
> They’re getting exactly what they voted for.

Hopefully, those cries will comfort those who are dying due to no health care that did not vote for trump.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3974 "2017-05-05T20:33:07Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> An FDA office is reporting that they have been given a directive from the White House that all internal television monitors must be turned to Fox News.  
> [At FDA, TVs now turned to Fox News and can't be switched - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/)

Is FDA in the Inner Party? I believe they are able to turn their telescreens off, at least for a while. I’m not sure if they can during the Two Minute Hate, though. Hopefully an upcoming executive order will clarify that.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3975 "2017-05-05T22:26:49Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Is FDA in the Inner Party? I believe they are able to turn their telescreens off, at least for a while. I’m not sure if they can during the Two Minute Hate, though. Hopefully an upcoming executive order will clarify that.

The story says “monitors in the common areas on campus”. Which means that some of the people there will be eating lunch in their own offices (or labs). It really is a sad commentary on Americans that there is a perceived need for TV to be running in all sorts of common areas. I guess the upper class have hoarded all the golden stuff, so we have to go out of our way to get blessed silence.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3976 "2017-05-05T22:38:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> An FDA office is reporting that they have been given a directive from the White House that all internal television monitors must be turned to Fox News.  
> [At FDA, TVs now turned to Fox News and can't be switched - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-fda-tvs-now-turned-to-fox-news-and-cant-be-switched/)

FDA now denies this.

[http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-denies-memo-saying-it-only-allows-fox-news-on-tvs/ar-BBANlZx](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-denies-memo-saying-it-only-allows-fox-news-on-tvs/ar-BBANlZx)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3977 "2017-05-05T22:47:51Z")

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Trump’s \*second \*nominee for Army Secretary has withdrawn his nomination due to even John McCain thinking he’s a right wing fuckstick. His first nominee withdrew because his financial dealings violated DoD ethical standards. As did his first nominee for Secretary of the Navy.

> **[Trump’s Army Secretary Nominee Mark Green Withdraws](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-withdraws-1494016714)**
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> President Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of the Army has pulled his name from consideration for the post after a siege by lawmakers and advocates who objected to stands he previously had taken on social issues.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3978 "2017-05-05T22:55:19Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> White House [**fires** its chief usher](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/05/white-house-fires-its-chief-usher-the-first-woman-in-that-job/?utm_term=.c595af1b9b66) — the first woman in that job.
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> Fuckers.

As a hijack, the job of chief usher is a fascinating one. There is a book written by JB West, who held the job for almost 30 years. I highly recommend it. It occasionally shows up for cheap as a Kindle Daily Deal so keep an eye out.

> **[Amazon.com: Upstairs at the White House: My Life with the First Ladies eBook :...](https://www.amazon.com/Upstairs-White-House-First-Ladies-ebook/dp/B00F3QYL06)**
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> Amazon.com: Upstairs at the White House: My Life with the First Ladies eBook : West, J. B., Kotz, Mary Lynn: Kindle Store

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3979 "2017-05-05T23:53:16Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> As a hijack, the job of chief usher is a fascinating one. There is a book written by JB West, who held the job for almost 30 years. I highly recommend it. It occasionally shows up for cheap as a Kindle Daily Deal so keep an eye out.
> 
> [https://www.amazon.com/Upstairs-White-House-First-Ladies-ebook/dp/B00F3QYL06/ref=sr\_1\_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1494024572&sr=1-1&keywords=White+House+usher](https://www.amazon.com/Upstairs-White-House-First-Ladies-ebook/dp/B00F3QYL06/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1494024572&sr=1-1&keywords=White+House+usher)

Wow! Who knew? Thanks **Ann Hedonia**.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3980 "2017-05-06T00:27:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s \*second \*nominee for Army Secretary has withdrawn his nomination due to even John McCain thinking he’s a right wing fuckstick. His first nominee withdrew because his financial dealings violated DoD ethical standards. As did his first nominee for Secretary of the Navy.  
> [https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-withdraws-1494016714](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-withdraws-1494016714)

For those who can’t get through the paywall:

“Tragically, my life of public service and my Christian beliefs have been mischaracterized and attacked by a few on the other side of the aisle for political gain, …” said Green.

Sure thing fuckhead. Suck on this ya “Christian”:

'In 2016, Green told a tea party group, “if you poll the psychiatrists, they’re going to tell you that transgender is a disease.” In 2013, Green blasted President Barack Obama for supporting what he said were “'transvestites in uniform.” ’

Prick.

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