# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1996
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39905 "2020-01-12T20:27:09Z")
[The J. stands for Genius:](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/you-wont-believe-what-trump-said-about-his-middle-name) > [@](#): > > Standing near the bar, Sherman ran into Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster, and the two started chatting. Sherman asked Luntz when he last saw the President. “Last week, at the White House Christmas party,” Luntz said. Sherman asked what the two men talked about, to which Luntz replied that he had asked Trump what his middle initial “J” stands for. “Genius,” Trump responded. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39906 "2020-01-12T20:37:25Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > [The J. stands for Genius:](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/you-wont-believe-what-trump-said-about-his-middle-name) Jesus Fucking Christ. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39907 "2020-01-12T20:45:30Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Jesus Fucking Christ. I’m willing to grant the benefit of the doubt that it’s Trump’s version of a dad joke. I fucking hope so. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39908 "2020-01-12T21:07:59Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > You will never receive a Nobel Prize … Well, I would not be so sure. Doing just the right thing might earn him a posthumous award. He should consider that as a career move. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39909 "2020-01-12T22:06:26Z")
[Super genius.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/ae/16/e1ae16b425a941a6dbac66767345d115.jpg) Or is his name Mud? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39910 "2020-01-12T22:50:33Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Jesus Fucking Christ. I think you mean Geesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39911 "2020-01-13T02:02:53Z")
[Trump is tearing down the wall between church and state:](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-says-trump-will-issue-new-rules-to-expand-constitutional-prayer-in-public-schools/) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump plans to introduce new guidance for expanding “constitutional prayer” in public schools. > > According to CBS News broadcaster Steven Portnoy, Trump’s schedule for Thursday includes an announcement about “guidance on constitutional prayer in public schools.” See, if you just put the word “constitutional” in front of it, there’s nothing anybody can do about it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39912 "2020-01-13T02:35:40Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > [The J. stands for Genius:](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/you-wont-believe-what-trump-said-about-his-middle-name) If that was _intended_ as a joke, I have to admit finding it amusing, and possibly the only joke Trump has (allegedly) made that I liked, but I’m a sucker for self-deprecating irony. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39913 "2020-01-13T02:55:16Z")
I’m guessing luntz was the one making a funny at Trump’s expense, not Trump. I can’t imagine anyone would ask the president what his middle initial stands for. It’s pretty common knowledge, and if not, it’s easily wikipediable. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39914 "2020-01-13T03:06:07Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m willing to grant the benefit of the doubt that it’s Trump’s version of a dad joke. > > I fucking hope so. This is a guy who thinks it’s hysterical to joke about being President for Life. Or about “you Second Amendment people” finding a solution if Hillary Clinton “stole” the election. Although now it makes sense he was so sure Hillary was going to “steal” it------God only knows what he had to do to get Vlad the Impaler to steal it for Trump in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39915 "2020-01-13T03:23:44Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I’m guessing luntz was the one making a funny at Trump’s expense, not Trump. I can’t imagine anyone would ask the president what his middle initial stands for. It’s pretty common knowledge, and if not, it’s easily wikipediable. Meh… it’s not nearly as funny when it’s someone pretending the line came from Trump, if that’s the case. There are so many better jokes one can tell about Trump without pretending he was involved. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39916 "2020-01-13T04:27:21Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I’m guessing luntz was the one making a funny at Trump’s expense, not Trump. I can’t imagine anyone would ask the president what his middle initial stands for. It’s pretty common knowledge, and if not, it’s easily wikipediable. I think this is the most likely scenario as well. Trump is staggeringly, dangerously stupid, but I don’t think he’s that illiterate. And I don’t think he has the ability to make a self-deprecating joke. So, by process of elimination, I vote for Luntz making a “Trump is an idiot” joke. It’s like the joke I heard some time back about University of Nebraska football players thinking the N on their helmets was for Nowledge. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39917 "2020-01-13T04:31:53Z")
I think its because he doesn’t actually have a sense of humor. He thinks that any absurd exaggeration is a joke. Reminds of the story about Mark Twain’s wife, who took tp cussing in order to demonstrate to her husband how silly it was. He remarked that she just didn’t know _how_ to swear, she had the lyrics but couldn’t hear the music. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39918 "2020-01-13T04:51:25Z")
“We have a very good relationship with Saudi Arabia—I said, listen, you’re a very rich country. You want more troops? I’m going to send them to you, but you’ve got to pay us. They’re paying us. They’ve already deposited $1B in the bank.” > (The quote is a paraphrase, the actual spoken words as seen on the clip are not an improvement, as regards shock, horror and dismay.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39919 "2020-01-13T05:37:25Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Trump is tearing down the wall between church and state:](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-says-trump-will-issue-new-rules-to-expand-constitutional-prayer-in-public-schools/) > See, if you just put the word “constitutional” in front of it, there’s nothing anybody can do about it. I bet there’s at least one Supreme Court justice (possibly in the afterlife) slapping himself upside the head for not coming up with that term instead of the current nonsense of “ceremonial deism”. ETA: Under the current president, the constitution doesn’t have a prayer! ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39920 "2020-01-13T06:31:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “We have a very good relationship with Saudi Arabia—I said, listen, you’re a very rich country. You want more troops? I’m going to send them to you, but you’ve got to pay us. They’re paying us. They’ve already deposited $1B in the bank.” > > [https://twitter.com/i/status/1216054398138376192](https://twitter.com/i/status/1216054398138376192) > > (The quote is a paraphrase, the actual spoken words as seen on the clip are not an improvement, as regards shock, horror and dismay.) Oh, wonderful. The US does not hire foreign mercenaries but it’s on its way to formally and officially become the new Landsknechts. :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39921 "2020-01-13T07:34:16Z")
Can someone please rid us of [this particular idiot](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020/1/10/1910674/-Rudy-Giuliani-wants-the-Supreme-Court-to-step-in-and-declare-the-Constitution-unconstitutional)? _… In this Jenga column of illogical blocks, Individual-ONE’s personal attorney argues that Congress can’t impeach ShitGibbon over either abuse of power or obstruction of Congress, because those are not crimes. They’re just violations of the Constitution. And impeaching BadHairWeaveForBrains for violating the Constitution would be unconstitutional. In fact, it would be so unconstitutional to impeach AgentOrange for an unconstitutional act that Colludiani thinks the Supreme Court should step in to halt the impeachment. Even though he acknowledges that that is … not in the Constitution._ I mean where the ever-loving fuck did Colludiani get his law degree? North Sentinel Island? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39922 "2020-01-13T08:13:26Z")
Let’s pretend he did and send him back for continuing legal education. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39923 "2020-01-13T10:15:16Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Oh, wonderful. The US does not hire foreign mercenaries but it’s on its way to formally and officially become the new Landsknechts. > > :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: I can all but guarantee that Loser Donald hasn’t put _nearly_ as much thought into it as you have. Everything he says and does is meant to reinforce one of his three core beliefs; 1. Donald Trump is very rich 2. Donald Trump is very smart 3. Everyone loves Donald Trump (including the haters and losers, who are just lying because they’re jealous of Him) In his mind, bragging about how much SA is paying for those troops (whether it’s true or not) is just proof of how rich, smart, and beloved He is. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39924 "2020-01-13T12:05:33Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Can someone please rid us of [this particular idiot](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020/1/10/1910674/-Rudy-Giuliani-wants-the-Supreme-Court-to-step-in-and-declare-the-Constitution-unconstitutional)? > > _… In this Jenga column of illogical blocks, Individual-ONE’s personal attorney argues that Congress can’t impeach ShitGibbon over either abuse of power or obstruction of Congress, because those are not crimes. They’re just violations of the Constitution. And impeaching BadHairWeaveForBrains for violating the Constitution would be unconstitutional. > In fact, it would be so unconstitutional to impeach AgentOrange for an unconstitutional act that Colludiani thinks the Supreme Court should step in to halt the impeachment. Even though he acknowledges that that is … not in the Constitution._ > > I mean where the ever-loving fuck did Colludiani get his law degree? North Sentinel Island? The ad on the bottom of that link was for a personal injury lawyer. Good call! I think I got multiple whiplash trying to follow Giuliani’s so-called logic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1995) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=1997)