# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39945 "2020-01-14T02:15:30Z")

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Roseanne Barr. No contest.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39946 "2020-01-14T02:53:45Z")

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> U.S. Attorney General William Barr said on Monday that he would raise the threshold needed to open counterintelligence investigations of presidential campaigns, a move that follows complaints by President Donald Trump about government surveillance of his 2016 election campaign.
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> Any future investigations will need the signatures of both the U.S. Attorney General and the head of the FBI, Barr said at a news conference. He said he had reached the decision with FBI Director Christopher Wray.

Don’t they also require the agreement of the President of Ukraine?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39947 "2020-01-14T13:24:45Z")

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[Don Winslow and Stephen King offer to donate big bucks to charity if WH press secretary will hold a one-hour press conference.](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/477566-stephen-king-don-winslow-promise-to-donate-over-200000-to)  
Spoiler: it didn’t work.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39948 "2020-01-14T21:47:49Z")

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After Individual 1 claimed that Saudi Arabia had paid $1 billion for US troops to be stationed on Saudi soil for Saudi defense, a Pentagon spokeswoman said that didn’t happen.

> **[Trump: Saudi Arabia paid the US $1 billion for more troops. Pentagon: Eh, not...](https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21065432/trump-laura-ingraham-interview-saudi-arabia-troops)**
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> Trump seemingly announced a major deal during his latest Fox News interview, but officials are walking it back.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39949 "2020-01-15T02:46:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> After Individual 1 claimed that Saudi Arabia had paid $1 billion for US troops to be stationed on Saudi soil for Saudi defense, a Pentagon spokeswoman said that didn’t happen.  
> [Trump: Saudi Arabia paid us $1 billion for troops. Pentagon: Not quite. - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21065432/trump-laura-ingraham-interview-saudi-arabia-troops)

Why is the regular press giving this person any coverage at all?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39950 "2020-01-15T05:59:16Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> [Don Winslow and Stephen King offer to donate big bucks to charity if WH press secretary will hold a one-hour press conference.](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/477566-stephen-king-don-winslow-promise-to-donate-over-200000-to)  
> Spoiler: it didn’t work.

Little bit of drive-by shittyness from the latest Press Sec., from the article :

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> Grisham reportedly criticized the offers in response, saying: “If you have $200,000 to play with, why not just help children because it’s a good thing to do?”

Incidentally, 200k is roughly [the yearly salary of the WH press secretary](https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/how-much-staffers-make-in-white-house-2019-8). The money she’s being paid by the taxpayer for not doing her, or any, job. Ain’t it cute ?

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39951 "2020-01-15T14:40:08Z")

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🙂

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Little bit of drive-by shittyness from the latest Press Sec., from the article :  
> Incidentally, 200k is roughly [the yearly salary of the WH press secretary](https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/how-much-staffers-make-in-white-house-2019-8). The money she’s being paid by the taxpayer for not doing her, or any, job. Ain’t it cute ?

That’s the Repub wet dream. That’s what they want----to sit on their asses and get paid. The Trumpers that DO believe his crap are probably the ones who believe those, “You can make $1789 a day working from home!”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39952 "2020-01-15T20:54:08Z")

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So Robert Hyde is just the epitome of a Trump lover, huh? Insane, paranoid, evil, and corrupt.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39953 "2020-01-16T01:01:08Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I was thinking - too bad I wasn’t in charge of the pre game. I’d be, “Mr President, you should sing the anthem! People come to me, and they say, sir, you need the President to sing! No one would sing the anthem like he can.”
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> Maybe it would work. Most interesting anthem performance since Enrico Pallazzo.

Just wait until you see how great an umpire he is too!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39954 "2020-01-16T02:51:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> So Robert Hyde is just the epitome of a Trump lover, huh? Insane, paranoid, evil, and corrupt.

In an interview with Rachel Maddow tonight, Lev Parnas said Hyde was drunk every time he ever saw him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39955 "2020-01-16T03:10:49Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> In an interview with Rachel Maddow tonight, Lev Parnas said Hyde was drunk every time he ever saw him.

QED

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39956 "2020-01-16T03:29:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> In an interview with Rachel Maddow tonight, Lev Parnas said Hyde was drunk every time he ever saw him.

Sort of burying the lede here that he also said that everything we think happened actually happened.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39957 "2020-01-16T16:09:49Z")

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From CNN:

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> Parnas has been urging Congress to allow him to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry, and on Wednesday he said the Senate would be wise to call him as a witness. He added that he and former national security adviser John Bolton “could fit in all the dots, I think, because I was on the ground there, and he was over here.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39958 "2020-01-16T20:05:49Z")

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The FBI this morning raided Robert Hyde’s home and office.

> **[FBI investigators visit Robert Hyde's home and office | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/fbi-robert-hyde/index.html)**
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> FBI investigators on Thursday visited both the home and business of Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde, who this week was implicated in the Ukraine scandal.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39959 "2020-01-16T22:13:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The FBI this morning raided Robert Hyde’s home and office.  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/fbi-robert-hyde/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/fbi-robert-hyde/index.html)

Did they simply go talk to him, or was he raided? That article isn’t clear.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39960 "2020-01-16T23:42:02Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> Did they simply go talk to him, or was he raided? That article isn’t clear.

And did they raid his office in the men’s room of the Trump Hotel bar?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39961 "2020-01-17T01:32:57Z")

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To be fair, if I had to meet with Lev Parnas, I’d be sure to be drunk every time, too.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39962 "2020-01-17T01:42:03Z")

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Interesting isn’t it. How many of Trumps co-conspirators are in prison? Four I think. Perhaps Trump IS going to clean out the swamp.

His own. (wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he tried to make that into some sort of defense)

It’s not even irony any more. Bunch of dumb assholes kinda works, but it’s not the phrase I’m looking for.

Help me out here.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39963 "2020-01-17T02:52:30Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> It’s not even irony any more. Bunch of dumb assholes kinda works, but it’s not the phrase I’m looking for.
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> Help me out here.

A confederacy of mooks?

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39964 "2020-01-17T03:44:52Z")

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Did the “Fox news all that bad” thread get deleted? I can’t find it.

Joe Concha, this rw fox idiot just lost his radio job becuase Iheartradio is streamlining. Just thought it should be celebrated.

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