# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/381 "2017-01-07T20:40:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I’d expect he is just stealing credit for what someone else may or may not be doing. Par for the course. And the businesses might just play along with these bullshit fabrications if nothing else just by not saying anything, as it might be to their advantage. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/382 "2017-01-09T15:39:33Z")
[Trump drops inauguration announcer who’s done them all since Eisenhower](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/08/politics/donald-trump-charles-brotman-inauguration-announcer/index.html) > [@](#): > > President-elect Donald Trump is breaking from 11 presidents’ worth of tradition and benching Charles Brotman. > The 89-year-old Brotman – once the voice of the Washington Senators baseball team – has announced every inauguration parade since Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1957. > He told WJLA he was “heartbroken” and “destroyed” by the decision at first. > > “I’ve been doing this for 60 years,” he told the Washington ABC affiliate. > In his place, the Trump team has tapped Steve Ray, a 58-year-old Washington-based freelance announcer who has worked with the MLB’s Washington Nationals and for local radio stations. And he was told by email, not even the courtesy of a phone call. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/383 "2017-01-09T15:59:51Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > **Rounding up and interning** or killing people because of their race comes to mind. We’re putting neoNazis and their sympathizers into power; we know how such people act when they can. I expect the Republicans to go full Holocaust, eventually; except on a much larger scale and with nobody able to stop them. > > I think the future of America is a racist theocracy with a collapsed economy, and maybe half the population it has now because the rest were expelled or killed. And the future of Mexico, South America and Africa is being radioactive wastelands after the Republicans bombard them to “purify the Earth of lesser, Satanic races”. Bolding mine This is a bit over the top but it made me think: One of the hallmarks of the Republican/alt-right/conservative/Fox/right politician/media has been projection. It’s not just coincidence that the most virulent anti-gays get caught in compromising ways. And the Donald’s record on what he screeched about yesterday is nearly word for word what he’s doing today. Something that’s been howled about quite regularly over the past years is camps; FEMA camps or their equivalent. Makes me wonder (and glad once again I moved to Canada) ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/384 "2017-01-09T17:27:34Z")
Soooo…what do you make of Der Trihs projections? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/385 "2017-01-09T17:31:43Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump drops inauguration announcer who’s done them all since Eisenhower](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/08/politics/donald-trump-charles-brotman-inauguration-announcer/index.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > President-elect Donald Trump is breaking from 11 presidents’ worth of tradition and benching Charles Brotman. The 89-year-old Brotman – once the voice of the Washington Senators baseball team – has announced every inauguration parade since Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1957. He told WJLA he was “heartbroken” and “destroyed” by the decision at first. > > > > “I’ve been doing this for 60 years,” he told the Washington ABC affiliate. In his place, the Trump team has tapped Steve Ray, a 58-year-old Washington-based freelance announcer who has worked with the MLB’s Washington Nationals and for local radio stations. And he was told by email, not even the courtesy of a phone call. > > And he was told by email, not even the courtesy of a phone call. The question is, how much did Steve Ray donate to Trump’s campaign? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/386 "2017-01-09T17:32:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Soooo…what do you make of Der Trihs projections? I am pleased to have someone on board who’s presence affords me some “centrist” cred. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/387 "2017-01-09T18:23:19Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Soooo…what do you make of Der Trihs projections? Who’s Der Trihs? I see the name bandied about but I don’t see any posts by him. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/388 "2017-01-09T19:25:20Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Who’s Der Trihs? I see the name bandied about but I don’t see any posts by him. You mean you haven’t been invited to receive his musings? :eek::eek: ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/389 "2017-01-09T19:27:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I am pleased to have someone on board who’s presence affords me some “centrist” cred. Agreed. The entertainment value of his posts more than makes up for his extremism. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/390 "2017-01-09T20:19:08Z")
I love how Trump is firing people who don’t yet work for him. First he wants all of the ambassadors to resign, and now he’s told the heads of the National Nuclear Security Administration, the organization that keeps track of our nuclear weapons, to clear out. > **[Trump Is Letting Go the People in Charge of Maintaining Our Nuclear Arsenal...](https://gizmodo.com/trump-just-dismissed-the-people-in-charge-of-maintainin-1790908093)** > > Between the Trump transition team’s infighting, incompetence, and high-profile resignations, any decisions that signaled even a modicum of stability for the country would come as a relief at this point. Unfortunately, the nascent Trump... ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/391 "2017-01-09T21:01:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I love how Trump is firing people who don’t yet work for him. First he wants all of the ambassadors to resign, and now he’s told the heads of the National Nuclear Security Administration, the organization that keeps track of our nuclear weapons, to clear out. > > [Trump Is Letting Go the People in Charge of Maintaining Our Nuclear Arsenal [Updated]](http://gizmodo.com/trump-just-dismissed-the-people-in-charge-of-maintainin-1790908093) Best quote from that link: > [@](#): > > The source later added, “I’m more and more coming around to the idea that we’re so very very fucked.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/392 "2017-01-09T21:22:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I love how Trump is firing people who don’t yet work for him. First he wants all of the ambassadors to resign, and now he’s told the heads of the National Nuclear Security Administration, the organization that keeps track of our nuclear weapons, to clear out. > > [Trump Is Letting Go the People in Charge of Maintaining Our Nuclear Arsenal [Updated]](http://gizmodo.com/trump-just-dismissed-the-people-in-charge-of-maintainin-1790908093) Then he hires his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, in violation of 5 U.S. Code § 3110. _(b) A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual._ If this is any example of how Trump plans on respecting the law his impeachment will be rather easy. Hopefully he’ll be caught telling lies to cover his misdeeds and a 3 ring circus ensues while the world watches and laughs. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/393 "2017-01-09T21:27:15Z")
I hope they are laughing, I fear they are cringing. ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/394 "2017-01-09T22:18:22Z")
I’ve started mentally inserting “Loke” whenever I read “Trump”. The world makes sense again. Disturbing sense, but still sense. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/395 "2017-01-09T22:38:32Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > In the meantime, Republicans have [reinstated an obscure law](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/house-republicans-revive-obscure-rule-that-could-allow-them-to-slash-the-pay-of-individual-federal-workers-to-1/2017/01/04/4e80c990-d2b2-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fedpay-1230pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b6d17c14ac41) that allows Congress to reduce the salary of any federal employee to as little as $1. Now we know why they requested lists of Energy and State Department employees involved with climate change and anti-discrimination efforts. Civil Service protects them from “You’re Fired!” but not from a pay cut to $1 per annum… ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/396 "2017-01-10T15:22:06Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > And that still doesn’t address an entire Republican party, full of weak candidates who couldn’t even (none of them) keep Donald Dump from hijacking their party and getting nominated. In other words, even if Hillary was terrible, all the Repubs were even worse and more horrible and incompetent. I think the Republican primary has been addressed several times. But if you think it was because the other Republican candidates were even shittier than Hillary, I’m not going to defend them. But I think that Trump won the primaries by cornering the racist/bigot vote and that was enough to give him a plurality in a 17 way race. > [@](#): > > But it doesn’t help that the Russians, the FBI director, Wikileaks’ Assange, and the fake news bunch kept piling on more bullshit while giving Trump a pass on everything that diarrheas out of his mouth… and all the dumb fucks that ate that shit up. So the Russians lied somehow? The whiny blaming of foreign powers for the loss is weak tea. WTF do you think the Russians did other than illegally obtain accurate information about Hillary’'s cheating? I agree the FBI’s re-opening of the email probe affected the election and it shouldn’t have but Director Comey (who the left was calling a paragon of integrity when he declined to recommend charges against Hillary for her use of a private email server) is now being criticized for showing integrity in announcing the discovery of heretofore undiscovered emails to and from Huma Abedin. Turns out it wasn’t a big deal but should he have sat on this discovery until after he found something incriminating even if that incriminating evidence wasn’t found until after the election? Hillary’s penchant for secrecy and non-disclosure fed into this and was part of what made her such a shitty candidate. Assange, the darling of free speech and the left when he released stuff that hurt Bush, but totally untrustworthy creep now that he releases stuff that hurts Hillary. :rolleyes: Did he release incorrect information? Did he compromise our national security wen he released the emails like he did when he released information when Bush was president? Were they fake emails? What fake news affected the election? Trump’s mouth diarrhea was apparent to most but they still chose Hillary in states that voted for Obama over McCain and Romney. Doesn’t that make you think that the problem might have been Hillary? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/397 "2017-01-10T15:28:45Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Best quote from that link: "After speaking to our source for clarification, we have updated the story and headline to reflect that, while Klotz and Creedon have submitted their resignations, intend to depart on January 20, and have not been asked by the Trump transition to stay past that date, the Trump team has not explicitly instructed them to leave or “clean out their desks,” as we reported. According to our source, both officials “have expressed [to the Trump team] that they would likely be willing to stay to facilitate a smooth transition, if asked,” as is the tradition for key officials, and have received no response. Their goodbye party is scheduled for next Thursday." Still not very encouraging but there is a chance that just haven’t gotten around to it yet. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/398 "2017-01-10T15:30:04Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > …I agree the FBI’s re-opening of the email probe affected the election and it shouldn’t have but Director Comey (who the left was calling a paragon of integrity when he declined to recommend charges against Hillary for her use of a private email server) is now being criticized for showing integrity… So, he did it, and he shouldn’t have, but you will set that minor problem aside because liberal hypocrisy? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/399 "2017-01-10T18:12:31Z")
this is better than sominex ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/400 "2017-01-10T19:33:07Z")
Ugh. Trump supporter Roosevelt Grier is running for Governor of California. A run of the mill Republican can’t get elected in California, but a celebrity can (qv Schwartzeneggar). I am worried. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=21)