# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3981 "2017-05-06T01:07:53Z")

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Quote function is fucked.  
Little\_Pig says:  
"White House [**fires** its chief usher](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/05/white-house-fires-its-chief-usher-the-first-woman-in-that-job/?utm_term=.c595af1b9b66) — the first woman in that job.

Fuckers."

It’s cool, that happens all the time. That’s a job with a high turnover rate. Since 1896 there’s been, like, 10 of them.

\*\*[White House Chief Usher - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_Usher)

\*\*In other words: Fuck you, Donald Trump!

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**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3982 "2017-05-06T01:48:15Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Quote function is fucked.  
> Little\_Pig says:  
> "White House [**fires** its chief usher](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/05/white-house-fires-its-chief-usher-the-first-woman-in-that-job/?utm_term=.c595af1b9b66) — the first woman in that job.
> 
> Fuckers."
> 
> It’s cool, that happens all the time. That’s a job with a high turnover rate. Since 1896 there’s been, like, 10 of them.
> 
> \*\*[White House Chief Usher - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_Usher)
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> \*\*In other words: Fuck you, Donald Trump!

Dunno-before RADM Rochon, the previous guy worked there 20 years.  
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3983 "2017-05-06T02:17:06Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> For those who can’t get through the paywall:
> 
> “Tragically, my life of public service and my Christian beliefs have been mischaracterized and attacked by a few on the other side of the aisle for political gain, …” said Green.
> 
> Sure thing fuckhead. Suck on this ya “Christian”:
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> 'In 2016, Green told a tea party group, “if you poll the psychiatrists, they’re going to tell you that transgender is a disease.” In 2013, Green blasted President Barack Obama for supporting what he said were “'transvestites in uniform.” ’
> 
> Prick.

He also said that it’s a good thing Obamacare was revoked, because sick people will turn to God.  
[![](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/gettyimages-1146341331-scaled.jpg) ](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/gettyimages-1146341331-scaled.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3984 "2017-05-06T03:14:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He also said that it’s a good thing Obamacare was revoked, because sick people will turn to God.  
> [http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-public-healthcare-stops-people-from-being-saved-by-christianity/article/2622180](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-public-healthcare-stops-people-from-being-saved-by-christianity/article/2622180)

I hope he gets his left nut chewed off by a rabid squirrel.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3985 "2017-05-06T03:19:55Z")

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Sort of the way someone who looks at a Gorgon will turn to stone? I don’t think he’s right.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3986 "2017-05-06T16:43:03Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Hopefully, those cries will comfort those who are dying due to no health care that did not vote for trump.

Don’t worry about them, they just didn’t “live good lives”. :smack:

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3987 "2017-05-06T16:44:07Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I hope he gets his left nut chewed off by a rabid squirrel.

That’s too good for him.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3988 "2017-05-06T16:48:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump’s \*second \*nominee for Army Secretary has withdrawn his nomination due to even John McCain thinking he’s a right wing fuckstick. His first nominee withdrew because his financial dealings violated DoD ethical standards. As did his first nominee for Secretary of the Navy.  
> [https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-withdraws-1494016714](https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-army-secretary-nominee-mark-green-withdraws-1494016714)

He (Mark Green) is whining that he was a victim of being unfairly held to account **for his own past statements** … Oh horror!

Yes, one of his “wisdoms” was that sickness was a main avenue leading to Jesus and that relying on government for healthcare limited the Church’s role and ability to evangelize.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3989 "2017-05-06T22:45:16Z")

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The White House put out an official statement Friday suggesting that funding for historically black colleges and block grants for Native America housing are unconstitutional.

> **[Trump Suggests HBCU Funding May Be Unconstitutional, Blindsiding Black Colleges](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/trump-suggests-hbcu-funding-may-be-unconstitutional)**
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> A federal program that helps fund HBCUs may unconstitutionally discriminate based on race, the administration suggested in a statement.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3990 "2017-05-06T22:51:04Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> He (Mark Green) is whining that he was a victim of being unfairly held to account **for his own past statements** … Oh horror!
> 
> Yes, one of his “wisdoms” was that sickness was a main avenue leading to Jesus and that relying on government for healthcare limited the Church’s role and ability to evangelize.

“sickness was a main avenue leading to Jesus”

So in his world, sickness is a virtue. Check.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3991 "2017-05-06T23:31:49Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> “sickness was a main avenue leading to Jesus”
> 
> So in his world, sickness is a virtue. Check.

Much like it was in Mother Teresa’s world. Sickness and pain, in their (and the general RCC’s) view, is an opportunity to suffer for Christ. Which, to normal people, sounds absurd and cruel.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3992 "2017-05-07T01:59:22Z")

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Remember when Clinton got in trouble for “pay to play”. I’m sure we’ll be hearing Republicans have similar apoplectic responses to this [much more brazen pay to play](http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/06/news/jared-kushner-nicole-family-event/index.html):

- Nicole Kushner Meyer, the sister of White House adviser and President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, spoke at an event in Beijing on Saturday. She was marketing a Kushner-owned property in New Jersey – invest in the development and get into the United States on a so-called EB-5 visa.

The EB-5 visa allows immigrants a path to a green card if they invest more than $500,000 in a project that creates jobs in the United States.

An ad for the event, held at a Ritz-Carlton hotel, said “Invest $500,000 and immigrate to the United States.” \*

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3993 "2017-05-07T02:29:37Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Remember when Clinton got in trouble for “pay to play”. I’m sure we’ll be hearing Republicans have similar apoplectic responses to this [much more brazen pay to play](http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/06/news/jared-kushner-nicole-family-event/index.html):
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> - Nicole Kushner Meyer, the sister of White House adviser and President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, spoke at an event in Beijing on Saturday. She was marketing a Kushner-owned property in New Jersey – invest in the development and get into the United States on a so-called EB-5 visa.
> 
> The EB-5 visa allows immigrants a path to a green card if they invest more than $500,000 in a project that creates jobs in the United States.
> 
> An ad for the event, held at a Ritz-Carlton hotel, said “Invest $500,000 and immigrate to the United States.” \*

I don’t see anything wrong with that. The EB-5 visa requirements are quite legal and well known. What is your objection?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3994 "2017-05-07T02:56:09Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> I don’t see anything wrong with that. The EB-5 visa requirements are quite legal and well known. What is your objection?

Specifically selling shares in a Kushner owned property.

Did you not even read what you were responding to ?

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3995 "2017-05-07T02:58:03Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Specifically selling shares in a Kushner owned property.
> 
> Did you not even read what you were responding to ?

Again, what is wrong with that exactly? It satisfies the requirements for EB-5, apparently. Does it matter who owns the property for the EB-5 purposes?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3996 "2017-05-07T03:02:29Z")

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Would it matter if it was Hillary Clinton?

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3997 "2017-05-07T03:08:36Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Would it matter if it was Hillary Clinton?

No. Why would it. Any investment that qualifies would result in EB-5 visa. How does it matter what investment it is?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3998 "2017-05-07T03:14:24Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No. Why would it. Any investment that qualifies would result in EB-5 visa. How does it matter what investment it is?

Liar.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/3999 "2017-05-07T03:16:45Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> No. Why would it. Any investment that qualifies would result in EB-5 visa. How does it matter what investment it is?

JFC, you’re deliberately obtuse.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/4000 "2017-05-07T03:23:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Liar.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> JFC, you’re deliberately obtuse.

I still don’t understand. Are you objecting to Kushner’s sister doing business in general? Or is it only if she does business in China? What if it was Japan? Russia? Germany? Elbonia?

How exactly does it benefit a Chinese investor to invest the qualifying amount into Kushner’s sister’s property as opposed to someone else’s? If it qualifies the investor for the visa, it qualifies him and he gets the visa he wants.

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