# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40045 "2020-01-21T06:02:43Z")

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Whatever the boat turns out to be, will it at least be rudderless with loose cannons on deck?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40046 "2020-01-21T07:39:28Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> As an aside, at the same time in California, there was much hue and cry about a [paroled rapist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Singleton) who had hacked off his victim’s arms and left her for dead. Astonishingly, Mary Singleton survived. Everywhere Singleton tried to settle, protests were so vociferous that authorities removed him. Ultimately he served out the rest of his parole in a trailer on the grounds of San Quentin.

Straying a bit off-topic, and notwithstanding the late hour of the night here, I cannot allow one to be this wrong on the internet! (Everyone knows the [obligatory xkcd](https://www.xkcd.com/386/) of course.) You’ve got this story badly garbled. The perp was [Lawrence (Larry) Singleton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Singleton) and his victim was Mary Vincent, who survived having both arms hacked off. (He also raped her.)

Parole officers tried to settle him in various places, keeping it all secret to avoid the outcry – but of course they had to let the local LEO’s in on the plan, and somehow the word leaked every time, leading to those protests.

After serving his parole at San Quentin, he moved to Florida where he committed various minor-ish crimes and then another murder for which he was sentenced to death. He eventually died of cancer in prison there.

I happened to read the wiki recently (I think there was some mention of on this board), and found that the location of the attack is surprisingly close to where I live now! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40047 "2020-01-21T11:09:55Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> There’s something wrong with that picture. Can’t quite put my finger on it…

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Maybe it’s her voice that’s black…?

Like all Trump spokescreatures, she’s fluent in [Black Speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Speech).

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40048 "2020-01-21T17:55:13Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> Interviewed this troop once. Same thing. “Her face ran into my fist.” On another occasion, “The road hit my car!” They do view the world that way.

I was reading a collection of accident descriptions an insurance guy put together, and my favorite one where the guy said that the tree jumped out in front of him, so he hit it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40049 "2020-01-21T18:20:04Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I was reading a collection of accident descriptions an insurance guy put together, and my favorite one where the guy said that the tree jumped out in front of him, so he hit it.

Rodney Dangerfield: “The last time my wife drove the car, she cracked it up. Went into a tree. Told me it wasn’t her fault, she blew the horn.”

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40050 "2020-01-21T22:10:50Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Straying a bit off-topic, and notwithstanding the late hour of the night here, I cannot allow one to be this wrong on the internet! (Everyone knows the [obligatory xkcd](https://www.xkcd.com/386/) of course.) You’ve got this story badly garbled. The perp was [Lawrence (Larry) Singleton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Singleton) and his victim was Mary Vincent, who survived having both arms hacked off. (He also raped her.)
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> Parole officers tried to settle him in various places, keeping it all secret to avoid the outcry – but of course they had to let the local LEO’s in on the plan, and somehow the word leaked every time, leading to those protests.
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> After serving his parole at San Quentin, he moved to Florida where he committed various minor-ish crimes and then another murder for which he was sentenced to death. He eventually died of cancer in prison there.
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> I happened to read the wiki recently (I think there was some mention of on this board), and found that the location of the attack is surprisingly close to where I live now! :eek:

I quibble with your applying “badly garbled” to a mixup of last names and a brief summation of the crime and immediate aftermath. But thank you for providing further details.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40051 "2020-01-22T19:33:13Z")

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Individual 1 apparently thinks an American invented the wheel.

> **[Trump Seems to Think an American Invented the Wheel](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-seems-to-think-an-american-invented-the-wheel)**
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> “We have to protect all of these people that came up with originally the light bulb and the wheel and all of these things and he’s one of our very smart people,” Trump told CNBC.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40052 "2020-01-22T20:20:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 apparently thinks an American invented the wheel.  
> [Trump Seems to Think an American Invented the Wheel](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-seems-to-think-an-american-invented-the-wheel)

From the link: “Well, you have to give him credit,” the president said. “He’s also doing the rockets. He likes rockets, and he does good at rockets too, by the way.”

You know, I never realized how much Trump speaks like a Pakled.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40053 "2020-01-22T20:27:53Z")

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Lawsuit charging Trump with embezzling campaign money:

> **[Trump-PIC-Complaint.pdf](https://oag.dc.gov/sites/default/files/2020-01/Trump-PIC-Complaint.pdf)**
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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40054 "2020-01-22T21:19:14Z")

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Reading through this - they’re only asking for the money to be paid back?

Does this rise to the level of an actual criminal complaint / prosecution?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40055 "2020-01-22T21:30:47Z")

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Not until tax time.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40056 "2020-01-22T21:44:47Z")

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Individual 1 is decrying the fact that Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh haven’t gotten Pulitzer Prizes.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40057 "2020-01-22T22:33:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 is decrying the fact that Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh haven’t gotten Pulitzer Prizes.

To be fair, they were the first to break the story about Hillary running pizza parlors with kidnapped children in the basement, or whatever that was.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40058 "2020-01-22T22:55:34Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> Reading through this - they’re only asking for the money to be paid back?
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> Does this rise to the level of an actual criminal complaint / prosecution?

It’s a civil action.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40059 "2020-01-22T23:08:47Z")

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The State Department is cracking down on “birth tourism” by requiring women “observed to have a body size/shape resembling a pregnant lady" to take a pregnancy test. I’m sure a lot of overweight women are gonna be happy with that decision.

> **[US to impose visa restrictions for pregnant women to crackdown on ‘birth...](https://thehill.com/policy/international/travel-warnings/479461-us-to-impose-visas-restrictions-for-pregnant-women/)**
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> The State Department plans to impose travel restrictions on pregnant women visiting the U.S., the Associated Press reported Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40060 "2020-01-22T23:31:45Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The State Department is cracking down on “birth tourism” by requiring women “observed to have a body size/shape resembling a pregnant lady" to take a pregnancy test. I’m sure a lot of overweight women are gonna be happy with that decision.  
> [https://thehill.com/policy/international/travel-warnings/479461-us-to-impose-visas-restrictions-for-pregnant-women](https://thehill.com/policy/international/travel-warnings/479461-us-to-impose-visas-restrictions-for-pregnant-women)

The Party of Rape continues to tolerate, defend, and even celebrate violating the consent and control over their bodies of women.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40061 "2020-01-22T23:58:51Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > I guess if he can’t get the Nobel prize, the next item on his wish list is to have a ship named after him. Is there any way to make sure Obama gets a ship named after him first? 😛
> 
> Where does it say he wants a ship named after him? Wish list?

A review of the new book A Very Stable Genius said that he considered awarding himself the Presidential Medal of Freedom. (Now [several presidents](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients#U.S._presidents) have received that, but none gave it to themselves.)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40062 "2020-01-23T00:25:12Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> A review of the new book A Very Stable Genius said that he considered awarding himself the Presidential Medal of Freedom. (Now [several presidents](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients#U.S._presidents) have received that, but none gave it to themselves.)

He’s considering giving himself lots of things. Medals are the least I’m concerned about.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40063 "2020-01-23T01:42:12Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The State Department is cracking down on “birth tourism” by requiring women “observed to have a body size/shape resembling a pregnant lady" to take a pregnancy test. I’m sure a lot of overweight women are gonna be happy with that decision.  
> [https://thehill.com/policy/international/travel-warnings/479461-us-to-impose-visas-restrictions-for-pregnant-women](https://thehill.com/policy/international/travel-warnings/479461-us-to-impose-visas-restrictions-for-pregnant-women)

I like the rationalization:

“…intended to address the national security and law enforcement risks associated with birth tourism…”

'Cause sometimes them babies, y’know, come out wearing suicide vests.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40064 "2020-01-23T02:34:40Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> From the link: “Well, you have to give him credit,” the president said. “He’s also doing the rockets. He likes rockets, and he does good at rockets too, by the way.”
> 
> You know, I never realized how much Trump speaks like a Pakled.

Trump on his makeup:

> [@](#):
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> I look for things. Things that make me glow.

Trump addressing his bucket of KFC:

> [@](#):
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> Make me strong!

Trump, bored in a Cabinet meeting, picturing the omelet station at Mar-a-lago:

> [@](#):
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> I am far from home.

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