# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40105 "2020-01-24T13:35:24Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Hey, every Real American knows Joseph and Mary were on vacation when Jesus was born. As for that manger that they stayed overnight in, why, it was a high-class manger! Better than the motels that Bethlehem had at the time.

It was a Trump manger?

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40106 "2020-01-24T14:48:47Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I harbour no wrath against thee; I am merely sorely consumed with regret that I, in my folly, adjudged thee to have achieved mastery over thine base impulses.

Just to be incredibly, incredibly pedantic:

“thy base impulses.” Like “a” vs. “an”; “thy” before a consonant sound, “thine” before a vowel sound.

My apologies for the diversion.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40107 "2020-01-24T15:50:09Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Hey, every Real American knows Joseph and Mary were on vacation when Jesus was born. As for that manger that they stayed overnight in, why, it was a high-class manger! Better than the motels that Bethlehem had at the time.

The pedant in me can’t just overlook this. The stable was what they stayed overnight in; the manger is the trough where they placed the Sweet Baby Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40108 "2020-01-24T16:26:09Z")

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That bugged me, too. Knowing this is The Straight Dope, I figured someone else would correct it.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40109 "2020-01-24T17:04:34Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It was a Trump manger?

No bedbugs. No bedbugs. You’re the bedbug!

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40110 "2020-01-24T17:25:07Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> IANAL, but it seems to me that if you are running to another country to prevent the king of your own country from killing you, you’re a refugee.

It is obvious you are not a lawyer. The word you are looking for is “tourist”. 😉

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40111 "2020-01-24T17:39:19Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> The pedant in me can’t just overlook this. The stable was what they stayed overnight in; the manger is the trough where they placed the Sweet Baby Jesus.

Wait, they stayed in a barn but put the kid in a ditch outside? Fuuuuck. That kid couldn’t catch a break from day one.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40112 "2020-01-24T18:22:49Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Wait, they stayed in a barn but put the kid in a ditch outside? Fuuuuck. That kid couldn’t catch a break from day one.

No, it wasn’t quite that bad. A manger is a wooden trough that holds grain or hay for the livestock, and in this case it was inside the stable. Besides, he was wrapped in swaddling clothes.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40113 "2020-01-24T18:23:53Z")

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Not outside, the manger is where the food for the animals is served for them; herd animals’ version of Fido’s plate. See the similarity with the French verb meaning “to eat”?

ETA: _glares at **Railer13** _

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40114 "2020-01-24T19:11:32Z")

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[iDJiT turns annual anti-abortion rally into campaign rally.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/24/march-for-life-washington-anti-abortion-activists-president-trump/4551608002/)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40115 "2020-01-24T19:46:04Z")

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There’s a video on the official White House youtube channel in which a pastor calls homosexuality unnatural.

> **[There’s a video posted on the official White House YouTube page calling...](https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/theres-a-video-on-the-white-houses-official-youtube-page-calling-homosexuality-the-devils-work-2020-01-22)**
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> Bishop Jerry Wayne Taylor’s unleashed a fiery anti-gay sermon over the weekend — shortly after a Pence speech.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40116 "2020-01-24T19:47:50Z")

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Individual 1 makes an offhand comment about how he is going to look into cutting Social Security and Medicare, and when called out about it, he tweets, “Democrats are going to destroy your Social Security. I have totally left it alone, as promised, and will save it!” (No mention of Medicare).

> **[Democrats pounce as Trump says he would consider cuts to Social Security and...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-pounce-as-trump-says-he-would-consider-cuts-to-social-security-and-medicare-100008567.html)**
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> President Trump said he was open to look at cutting entitlements, giving Democrats another issue to run on in 2020.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40117 "2020-01-24T19:49:31Z")

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Betsy DeVos compares those fighting against abortion to those who fought against slavery.  
[DeVos compares abortion rights debate to slavery - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/23/devos-compares-abortion-rights-debate-to-slavery-102895)?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40118 "2020-01-24T20:09:25Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> No, it wasn’t quite that bad. A manger is a wooden trough that holds grain or hay for the livestock, and in this case it was inside the stable. Besides, he was wrapped in swaddling clothes.

Still, you can see why he’d grow up feeling like he had something to prove.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40119 "2020-01-24T21:47:48Z")

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Today Trump unveiled the logo for the Space Force. He said it was the “Sixth Branch” of the military (even though the logo says it’s a department of the Air Force). Also, the logo looks kinda familiar. I can’t quite put my finger on it… [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220821545746141187](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220821545746141187)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40120 "2020-01-24T22:04:54Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1220828569661857792?s=20>

(For the non-fans, DI)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40121 "2020-01-24T22:08:13Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1220828569661857792?s=20](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1220828569661857792?s=20)
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> (For the non-fans, DI)

I figured if there’s any site where I can assume a Star Trek reference will be appreciated, this is probably it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40122 "2020-01-24T22:11:46Z")

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True, that. But there may be one or two… oddballs… who roll through here. 😉

Sharper eyes have noticed that not only did they steal the Star Trek logo, the stars are in the same alignment as in the NASA logo:

[https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1220830717304852486?s=20](https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1220830717304852486?s=20)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40123 "2020-01-24T22:14:10Z")

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Whoda thunk the Trump admin would invent the replicator? And then use it to steal a design of a fictional organization which is… in one movie at least… in Nancy Pelosi’s district?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40124 "2020-01-24T22:18:10Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> True, that. But there may be one or two… oddballs… who roll through here. 😉
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> Sharper eyes have noticed that not only did they steal the Star Trek logo, the stars are in the same alignment as in the NASA logo:
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> [https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1220830717304852486?s=20](https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1220830717304852486?s=20)

Oh man that’s aw[del]esome[/del]ful.

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