# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2015
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40285 "2020-02-01T21:08:27Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > **JKellyMap** was asking for a cite that Trump has made _fewer_ than 40,389 lies. I think the WP’s tally only includes important lies made in a public or official context. Given that even Trump’s casual speech abounds with lies, exaggerations and half-truths, I’m pretty sure the total is at least 40,000 or so just since he took office. If one tells a lie and no one is listening, is it still a lie? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40286 "2020-02-01T23:07:46Z")
Taking a wait-and-see approach, **[GOP Lawmakers Watch Silently As Trump Strangles Each Of Their Loved Ones In Turn](https://politics.theonion.com/gop-lawmakers-watch-silently-as-trump-strangles-each-of-1838885386)** _… “After I watched the president slowly and methodically squeeze the life out of my wife’s body as she gasped, futilely, for breath, he gave me his personal assurance that he was not responsible for her death, so I continue to stand by this administration,” said Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN), who along with every Republican in both the House and Senate stated that while killing off their families in cold blood might not be entirely proper, it was certainly not an impeachable offense …_ /Onion (obviously) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40287 "2020-02-02T02:16:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 apparently doesn’t know who’s playing in the Super Bowl. > “Well, I love them both, let’s just say. But I will tell you, some two very interesting teams and interesting players, some really great players. And it’s going to be hopefully a great Super Bowl.” > [https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1223242534526291969](https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1223242534526291969) > > He has no idea who’s playing. Not to defend Trump, but it’s Kansas I think and … Could not care less. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40288 "2020-02-02T02:37:43Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Not to defend Trump, but it’s Kansas I think and … Could not care less. Most of Kansas City is in Missouri, no? I just remember the scene in **International House** (1932) where W.C. Fields lands his autogyro in Woohoo, China, and shouts “Is this Kansas City MISSOURAH…or Kansas City KANSAS?” ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40289 "2020-02-02T03:17:53Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Most of Kansas City is in Missouri, no? > > I just remember the scene in **International House** (1932) where W.C. Fields lands his autogyro in Woohoo, China, and shouts “Is this Kansas City MISSOURAH…or Kansas City KANSAS?” Yeah, there’s Kansas City MO, which is the much bigger one, and Kansas City, KS, which is a smaller suburb. The Chiefs play in Arrowhead Stadium in MO (though outside the KC city limits). ETA: Anyway, I’m barely aware of who’s playing in the Super Bowl, and if a President would ever say something like, “You know I have to admit I haven’t really paid attention to it this year,” I’d be happy to accept that. It’s the transparent bullshitting that galls me. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40290 "2020-02-02T04:31:44Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Yeah, there’s Kansas City MO, which is the much bigger one, and Kansas City, KS, which is a smaller suburb. The Chiefs play in Arrowhead Stadium in MO (though outside the KC city limits). There are about 2.1 million people in the KC metro area. About 60% live in Missouri and the remainder live in Kansas. Kansas City, Missouri, is the largest city in the area with a population of 550,000. Overland Park, Kansas, is the second largest city in the metro area with a population of about 200,000. Arrowhead Stadium is located within the city limits of Kansas City, Missouri. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40291 "2020-02-02T04:56:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > There are about 2.1 million people in the KC metro area. About 60% live in Missouri and the remainder live in Kansas. Kansas City, Missouri, is the largest city in the area with a population of 550,000. Overland Park, Kansas, is the second largest city in the metro area with a population of about 200,000. Right. And KCK has a population of about 150K according to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Kansas). > [@](#): > > Arrowhead Stadium is located within the city limits of Kansas City, Missouri. > > [/hijack] I’ll be damned. I would have sworn it was technically in Raytown. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40292 "2020-02-02T06:09:46Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I’ll be damned. I would have sworn it was technically in Raytown. It looks like the older maps show the city limits pretty well inside I-435 but when you look at KC on that globe thing and select the city, it shows the boundary going well east of there, and wrapping all the way around where Raytown is. I asked a local once – he told me that KC is in Missourah and St. Louis is in Missouree, with a vague east/west-ish division somewhere down through the state. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40293 "2020-02-02T06:33:06Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Taking a wait-and-see approach, **[GOP Lawmakers Watch Silently As Trump Strangles Each Of Their Loved Ones In Turn](https://politics.theonion.com/gop-lawmakers-watch-silently-as-trump-strangles-each-of-1838885386)** > > _… “After I watched the president slowly and methodically squeeze the life out of my wife’s body as she gasped, futilely, for breath, he gave me his personal assurance that he was not responsible for her death, so I continue to stand by this administration,” said Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN), who along with every Republican in both the House and Senate stated that while killing off their families in cold blood might not be entirely proper, it was certainly not an impeachable offense …_ > > /Onion > (obviously) I knew that was a fake story when it mentioned strangling adults with teeny tiny hands. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40294 "2020-02-02T06:43:15Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > I knew that was a fake story when it mentioned strangling adults with teeny tiny hands. Well, it does say that he used barbed wire for at least one of them. I think he can get his hands around that. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40295 "2020-02-02T13:29:06Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > ETA: Anyway, I’m barely aware of who’s playing in the Super Bowl, and if a President would ever say something like, “You know I have to admit I haven’t really paid attention to it this year,” I’d be happy to accept that. It’s the transparent bullshitting that galls me. But he has to be the _best_ at everything. Anything else would be admitting he has doubts about his abilities. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40296 "2020-02-02T14:05:25Z")
From The Atlantic online. **[Broken by Trump](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/broken-trump/605959/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)** > [@](#): > > … They [Republicans] are defending actions they know are wrong and that, if they had been done by a Democratic president, that they would be outraged by. More than that, they are validating Trump’s approach to politics—the hyper-aggression, the lawlessness, the mendacity, the shamelessness—and therefore guaranteeing imitators. It also happens that their influence on the president is far smaller than they tell themselves. They have made concession after concession after concession, justifying each one along the way. Then you look back at the road they’ve traveled, and it’s breathtaking. Donald Trump has changed them far more than they have changed Donald Trump. > … > > To see men and women who in other spheres of their lives are admirable, who got into politics because they believed it was a noble profession and had a positive vision for the Republican Party, beaten down and broken by Trump is a poignant thing. Their weakness and servility, their vassalage to such a fundamentally corrupt man, is dispiriting to those of us who not only lament the injury Trump is inflicting on the nation as a whole but who still care about the Republican Party and worry that conservatism is in the process of being subsumed into angry, ethnic populism. > … > > The damage done by Trump won’t be limited in its reach. He has imperiled the future of the party he leads. And those who think the GOP will simply snap-back to the best of what it was pre-Trump—who think the worst elements of Trumpism will vanish once he leaves the White House—are kidding themselves. > … This columnist, Peter Wehner, is lamenting the demise of the Republican Party, which I won’t shed a tear for. But he rightly points out that these Pubbies have tainted themselves by wading into the [del]swamp[/del] sewer that trump has created. Fuck all of those cowards. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40297 "2020-02-02T19:59:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > From The Atlantic online. > > \*\*[Broken by Trump](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/broken-trump/605959/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)\*\*This columnist, Peter Wehner, is lamenting the demise of the Republican Party, which I won’t shed a tear for. But he rightly points out that these Pubbies have tainted themselves by wading into the [del]swamp[/del] sewer that trump has created. Fuck all of those cowards. I won’t cry for the Repubs either. They can go to hell. Cowards traitors and fascists. Fuck them all. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40298 "2020-02-02T21:04:46Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I won’t cry for the Repubs either. They can go to hell. Cowards traitors and fascists. Fuck them all. +1. If Lincoln were alive today, there is no doubt in my mind that he would warmly embrace the Democratic Party. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40299 "2020-02-02T21:43:09Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > +1. If Lincoln were alive today, there is no doubt in my mind that he would warmly embrace the Democratic Party. Lincoln was pretty much a proto-socialist. He was all for workers’ rights, he instituted the first income tax. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40300 "2020-02-03T00:04:17Z")
I wonder how long it will take him to notice the armed forces color guard at the Super Bowl had flags for all the branches of the military-- except the Space Force? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40301 "2020-02-03T00:26:15Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I wonder how long it will take him to notice the armed forces color guard at the Super Bowl had flags for all the branches of the military-- except the Space Force? Which is funny, considering the introduction of the honor guard included the expession “six military branches” (I think that is what I heard). ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40302 "2020-02-03T03:57:36Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I’ll be damned. I would have sworn it was technically in Raytown. I feel better now. The President of the United States thinks the Chiefs play in Kansas. I was way closer. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40303 "2020-02-03T06:03:46Z")
Someone posted a map of the area sharpied to show KC being in Kansas. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40304 "2020-02-03T09:07:39Z")
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