# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40465 "2020-02-10T23:00:06Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> You have got to be kidding me.
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> [https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/trumps-plan-make-architecture-classical-again/606286/](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/trumps-plan-make-architecture-classical-again/606286/)
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> If there is anyone in the world we don’t want dictating architectural style, it’s Donnie 2 scoops.

Well, we know how classy his casinos were.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40466 "2020-02-11T00:06:31Z")

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I’m just surprised that he doesn’t want Rococo.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40467 "2020-02-11T00:10:10Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Berlin had potential](http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/02/totalitarian-architecture-of-third.html)… until ANTIFA came in their B-17s and Lancasters and destroyed everything.

Great post. Especially ANTIFA. Love it!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40468 "2020-02-11T00:12:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1, that well known medical man, says that coronavirus will die out in April as the weather warms up.  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/health/trump-coronavirus-weaker-warm-weather/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/health/trump-coronavirus-weaker-warm-weather/index.html)

So April will be the perfect time for Trump to make a state visit to virus-epicenter Wuhan, China…right?

The weather should be delightful. And best of all, Trump can prove to the world that he’s never wrong!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40469 "2020-02-11T01:07:57Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I’m just surprised that he doesn’t want Rococo.

Why not Federal? At least that’s a Native American architectural style.

If I was president, I’d make all future buildings Antoni Gaudi.

[![](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Gaud%C3%AD#/media/File:Park_G%C3%BCell_02.jpg) ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Gaud%C3%AD#/media/File:Park_G%C3%BCell_02.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40470 "2020-02-11T01:18:56Z")

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Considering the nature of the current regime, I think Neo-brutalist might be just the thing.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40471 "2020-02-11T03:32:14Z")

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Roger Stone sentenced to up to nine years.

> <https://twitter.com/mmineiro_cns/status/1227008274454712326?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2J9SdZoaK_NFLJCPmTxnPvbeUdz-PhSIRrjALW0uIJLyaK0Lwd5exYJFg>

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40472 "2020-02-11T03:44:32Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Roger Stone sentenced to up to nine years.  
> [https://twitter.com/mmineiro\_cns/status/1227008274454712326?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2J9SdZoaK\_NFLJCPmTxnPvbeUdz-PhSIRrjALW0uIJLyaK0Lwd5exYJFg](https://twitter.com/mmineiro_cns/status/1227008274454712326?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2J9SdZoaK_NFLJCPmTxnPvbeUdz-PhSIRrjALW0uIJLyaK0Lwd5exYJFg)

That’s what prosecution is recommending. Sentencing is 2/20, followed by pardoning 2/21.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40473 "2020-02-11T04:18:34Z")

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from the [NEH](https://www.neh.gov/news/neh-statement-proposed-fy-2021-budget):

(February 10, 2020) WASHINGTON, D.C. — **Today the Trump administration released its comprehensive budget for the Federal government for FY 2021. The White House has requested that Congress appropriate $33.4 million to the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) for the orderly closure of the agency. This amount includes funds to meet grants and matching offers awarded prior to October 1, 2020, as well as funds to cover administrative expenses.**

Anyone ready to weep for humanity?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40474 "2020-02-11T04:32:06Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> from the [NEH](https://www.neh.gov/news/neh-statement-proposed-fy-2021-budget):
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> (February 10, 2020) WASHINGTON, D.C. — **Today the Trump administration released its comprehensive budget for the Federal government for FY 2021. The White House has requested that Congress appropriate $33.4 million to the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) for the orderly closure of the agency. This amount includes funds to meet grants and matching offers awarded prior to October 1, 2020, as well as funds to cover administrative expenses.**
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> Anyone ready to weep for humanity?

Well, who needs “books, films, and museum exhibits, and … significant cultural resources”?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40475 "2020-02-11T07:35:30Z")

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Once you’ve read _The Art of the Deal_ you’ll realize no other books matter . . . OK maybe the one about those two guys from Corinth.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40476 "2020-02-11T10:15:47Z")

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I think they should have slow-walked Roger Stone’s trial and sentencing, and ditto for other Trump criminals, delaying things until after January when Trump is hopefully no longer around. This, hoping it’s less likely that Trump pardons them between now and then.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40477 "2020-02-11T10:47:57Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I think they should have slow-walked Roger Stone’s trial and sentencing, and ditto for other Trump criminals, delaying things until after January when Trump is hopefully no longer around. This, hoping it’s less likely that Trump pardons them between now and then.

He’s already convicted so he can now be pardoned if Herr Trump so decrees. Delaying the trials would both pose legal problems (see the right to a swift trial) and would run the risk of it getting harder to achieve anything if Trump wins again.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40478 "2020-02-11T14:54:37Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> […] OK maybe the one about those two guys from Corinth.

Nah, we don’t need Shakespeare any more.

Although it would’ve been nice to be President during Shakespeare’s time — you say “off with his head,” and bingo! the head comes off.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40479 "2020-02-11T15:01:45Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Nah, we don’t need Shakespeare any more.
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> Although it would’ve been nice to be President during Shakespeare’s time — you say “off with his head,” and bingo! the head comes off.

I suspect **crowmanyclouds** is referring to Trump’s misquoting of the second letter to the Corinthians, not _The Two Gentlemen of Verona_ or _A Comedy of Errors_ (where the two pairs of twins are from Syracuse and Ephesus)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40480 "2020-02-11T15:14:53Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> A fun new video for your entertainment. I’m thinking this will go viral…
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ue5F57dZMU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ue5F57dZMU)

Pretty well done, but do eight-and-a-half minute videos GO viral?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40481 "2020-02-11T15:47:33Z")

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Trump now says that he will pay for The Wall with “redemption money”:

> [@](#):
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> By way of an explanation, the president told a group of supporters in New Hampshire last night, “What’s happening, you know, you do know who’s paying for the wall, right? Redemption from illegal aliens that are coming in. The redemption money is paying for the wall.”
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> …  
> …  
> …  
> Part of the problem is that no one has any idea what “redemption money” is. If I had to guess, I’d say he meant to refer to remittances, not redemption – public policy really isn’t the president’s strong suit – but got confused about the specific terminology.
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> The trouble is, even if he was referring to using remittances – an idea he’s floated for years – the policy he described last night does not currently exist, and as such, it’s impossible to say remittances are already “paying for the wall.”

> **[Trump falsely says 'redemption' money is paying for border wall](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-makes-new-funding-source-wall-redemption-money-n1134751)**
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> After trying for years to think of a way to get Mexico to pay for a wall, Trump is now talking up "redemption money" that doesn't exist.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40482 "2020-02-11T15:47:45Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I think they should have slow-walked Roger Stone’s trial and sentencing, and ditto for other Trump criminals, delaying things until after January when Trump is hopefully no longer around. This, hoping it’s less likely that Trump pardons them between now and then.

I’m sure a pardon is already scheduled for November 4, 2020.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40483 "2020-02-11T15:54:04Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Trump now says that he will pay for The Wall with “redemption money”:

**The Messiah** brings Redemption! Hallelujah and Jubilee! All praise **The Messiah**!

♫ _A-mer-i-ca over all  
Over all in the world!_ ♫

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40484 "2020-02-11T16:27:46Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I’m just surprised that he doesn’t want Rococo.

Oh, he wants it, he just has no idea what it’s called.

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