# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2039
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40765 "2020-02-21T20:30:31Z")
[In one incident, a series of realities about Trump’s presidency seem to be confirmed](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/21/one-incident-series-realities-about-trumps-presidency-seem-be-confirmed/) > [@](#): > > He is not the only one who holds this view of his presidency, that there is greater risk to the country in revealing Russia’s efforts than there is in reinforcing Trump’s preferred, inaccurate worldview. On “Fox & Friends,” the Fox News daily news briefing, co-host Pete Hegseth argued that it was the media who was aiding Russia’s efforts to sow discord by reporting on what happened with Maguire. > > He presented the story as somehow coming from Russia. > > \*“This is what they do,” he said. “The Democrats, the media fell for it, and they keep falling for it because they hate Trump so much, they’re willing to parrot what the Kremlin is saying. They are the agents of Russia, not Donald Trump, not this White House.” > \* > The Kremlin denied reports that Russia was looking to interfere in the 2020 election. Hegseth was once rumored to be in the running for a Cabinet position in the Trump administration. He is also credited with persuading Trump to offer pardons to several members of the military charged with war crimes. [my italics] Yes. I remember that disgraceful day in Helsinki when the Democrats rolled over and bared their belly to Vladimir Putin, publically throwing US intelligence agencies under the bus and affirming that Russia wouldn’t have interfered in US elections because Vlad told them so. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40766 "2020-02-22T01:01:43Z")
But it was made by South Koreans, who have been exploiting the poor US for decades [crowd boos]. And of all the movies that have ever been made he picked “Gone with the Wind”, noted for it’s realistic potrayal of the happy lives of the slaves and of the Lost Cause of the noble Southerners fighting to defend their way of life [crowd cheers] ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40767 "2020-02-22T01:25:29Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > But it was made by South Koreans, who have been exploiting the poor US for decades [crowd boos]. Perhaps if it had been a North Korean film, Loser Donald would be completely OK with it getting Best Picture. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40768 "2020-02-22T04:54:56Z")
And Tan the Conman [strikes again](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-gives-defense-department-power-182626414.html), ensuring the working person can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40769 "2020-02-22T04:57:12Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > But it was made by South Koreans, who have been exploiting the poor US for decades [crowd boos]. And of all the movies that have ever been made he picked “Gone with the Wind”, noted for it’s realistic potrayal of the happy lives of the slaves and of the Lost Cause of the noble Southerners fighting to defend their way of life [crowd cheers] That’s why he relocated to Florida, all those happy serving dark skinned folk. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40770 "2020-02-22T04:59:05Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > If they start a war, the rest of us will finish it for them. Fucking idiots forget they aren’t the only armed folks. True. I suspect that now, 99% of this is a bunch of insecure guys trying to gin each other up to something resembling self-respect. But if Trump stays in office after January 2021, we will increasingly see that hooligan/Brown Shirt energy being exploited by Erik Prince (and his fellow bully-boys). They may well become organized terrorists, smiled upon by the His Empty-Skulled Majesty. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40771 "2020-02-22T13:41:52Z")
[Intelligence community feels immediate impact of Trump’s diplomatic ‘disruptor’](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/22/politics/grenell-impact-diplomatic-community/index.html) > [@](#): > > Richard Grenell, the newly installed acting director of American spy agencies and loyalist to President Donald Trump, began his temporary tenure by moving aggressively to put his stamp on the intelligence community that Trump has repeatedly attacked. > > Grenell ousted a veteran intelligence officer on Friday who served as the number two at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, according to The New York Times, and on Thursday he brought on board a former staffer of Rep. Devin Nunes, a California Republican who’s a staunch Trump ally. > > … > > Donald Trump Jr. suggested to CNN on Friday that Grenell’s commitment to the President was a factor in his selection and said he looks forward to having “an honest dealer” leading the intelligence community. > > “All I want is honesty in these places. Whether it’s the Justice Department, whether it’s there, I just want people who aren’t partisan hacks,” Trump Jr said, adding that he believes Grenell, the US ambassador to Germany, will be the same kind of disruptive force within the intelligence community that he has been diplomatically. “[A]n honest dealer” and “partisan hacks”. Don Jr has once again broken the irony meter considering Grenell appears to be a bigger hack than Barr and I’m sure whoever Nunes’s aide is, he/she won’t be too far behind. Trump’s goal is to get the government filled with nothing but partisan hacks loyal to him first. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40772 "2020-02-22T23:57:43Z")
The State Department overruled the CDC and ordered people who tested positive for coronavirus to fly home on the same plane as people who had not tested positive, and didn’t tell those who had tested negative that they would be flying back to the US with people who had tested positive. CDC officials requested that their names be taken off of the press release. [Trump Regime Overruled CDC, Flew Coronavirus-Infected Americans on Plane With Healthy People: Report](https://gizmodo.com/trump-regime-overruled-cdc-flew-coronavirus-infected-a-1841826671)? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40773 "2020-02-23T00:59:16Z")
A lot of infuriating shit in this thread, but those last two posts… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40774 "2020-02-23T03:00:39Z")
Some morons [glued little maga hats](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pigeons-make-america-great-again-hats-glued-their-head-released-n1138556) and bad hair onto pigeons, which they released in Las Vegas ahead of the Democratic debate event. Because, lack-of-reason? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40775 "2020-02-23T12:47:04Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Some morons [glued little maga hats](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pigeons-make-america-great-again-hats-glued-their-head-released-n1138556) and bad hair onto pigeons, which they released in Las Vegas ahead of the Democratic debate event. Because, lack-of-reason? Someone has entirely too much time on there hands. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40776 "2020-02-23T14:18:32Z")
_ahem_ … My twitter joke: Great, now there are a bunch of disease ridden parasites with red hats walking around. And they’re messing with the pigeons! Thank you. Try the veal. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40777 "2020-02-23T14:26:13Z")
I raised this issue a ways back and was scoffed at. But lookee here, _The Atlantic_ has raised it. **[What Would Happen if Trump Refused to Leave Office?](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/what-if-he-wont-go/606259/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)** > [@](#): > > …That a president would defy the results of an election has long been unthinkable; it is now, if not an actual possibility, at the very least something Trump’s supporters joke about. As the former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee tweeted, President Trump “will be eligible for a 3rd term due to the illegal attempts by Comey, Dems, and media , et al attempting to oust him as @POTUS so that’s why I was named to head up the 2024 re-election.” A good troll though it may have been, Huckabee is not the first person to suggest that Trump might not leave when his presidency ends. > > In May, the faith leader Jerry Falwell Jr. tweeted an apparent reference to the completed investigation of Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Russian election interference. “I now support reparations,” he wrote. “Trump should have 2 yrs added to his 1st term as pay back for time stolen by this corrupt failed coup.” Trump retweeted Falwell’s post. > > One of Trump’s former confidants, Michael Cohen, has suggested that Trump won’t leave. In his congressional testimony before heading to prison, Trump’s former attorney said, “Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power.” > … > > Although Trump’s remaining in office seems unlikely, a more frightening—and **plausible** —scenario would be **if his defeat inspired extremist supporters to engage in violence.** One could imagine a world in which Trump is defeated in the 2020 election, and he immediately begins tweeting that the election was rigged. Or consider the possibility, albeit remote, that a second-term Trump is removed from office through impeachment, and rails about his ouster as a coup. His message would be amplified by right-wing media. **If his grievances hit home with even a few people inclined toward violence, deadly acts of violence, or even terrorist attacks against the new administration, could result.** > > Ultimately, the key to the peaceful transfer of power is the conduct of the outgoing leader himself. America has thus far been lucky in that regard. > … That luck, alas, has run out. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40778 "2020-02-23T15:54:51Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Some morons [glued little maga hats](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pigeons-make-america-great-again-hats-glued-their-head-released-n1138556) and bad hair onto pigeons, which they released in Las Vegas ahead of the Democratic debate event. Because, lack-of-reason? I saw that story a couple days ago. The thought that ran through my head: > [@MAGA Farm](#): > > No question now what has happened to the faces of the MAGAts. The creatures outside looked from MAGAt to pigeon, and from pigeon to MAGAt, and from MAGAt to pigeon again: but already it was impossible to say which was which. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40779 "2020-02-23T15:57:45Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Great, now there are a bunch of disease ridden parasites with red hats walking around. And they’re messing with the pigeons! I am _so_ stealing this! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40780 "2020-02-23T19:36:42Z")
Individual 1 just retweeted a video of him slaughtering brown people. > > > Sol🎬 @Solmemes1 ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40781 "2020-02-23T19:39:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 just retweeted a video of him slaughtering brown people. > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1231345462793441280](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1231345462793441280) “The following media includes potentially sensitive content.“ Can you give us a synopsis? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40782 "2020-02-23T19:42:56Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > “The following media includes potentially sensitive content.“ > > Can you give us a synopsis? It’s a clip from an Indian movie with Individual 1’s face superimposed over one of the characters, going into battle, and then a woman with Melania’s face superimposed over an actress’s face caressing him afterwards. I stopped watching at that point, so I don’t know what more it contains. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40783 "2020-02-23T19:47:32Z")
Thanks. That’s like having sex in an elevator. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40784 "2020-02-23T20:20:31Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Thanks. That’s like having sex in an elevator. Crowded? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2038) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2040)