# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2050
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40985 "2020-03-01T03:26:58Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > It’s a hoax. The ‘dead’ guy is faking. > > He’s a crisis actor. That’s hilarious, given how often CT types (like Individual 1) accuse others of that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40986 "2020-03-01T05:29:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But he said just the other day that an old friend of his came up to him and hugged and kissed him, and then told him he’s coughing and has a fever. That can’t possibly be true. He didn’t mention anything about his friend having tears in his eyes or calling him “sir”. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40987 "2020-03-01T06:30:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But he said just the other day that an old friend of his came up to him and hugged and kissed him, and then told him he’s coughing and has a fever. > > I really do wonder whether the Secret Service lets people just come up to the idiot and hug and kiss him. Unless they’re Judas, I guess. I thought Trump hated gay stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40988 "2020-03-01T07:14:40Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > More proof that we/the constitution relied way too much on convention and tradition without actual rules or laws. I suppose these were trump appointees or republicans in general who made this ruling? So I guess now Congress’ hands are tied forever. They’re supposed to be a check on the executive but now they can’t be. It’s a very common source of misunderstandings between US-based and abroad-based branches of the same company, as well as for Americans themselves; both the stuff which is based on precedent (no official law or regulation) and the stuff which is on the book but does not apply (there is a law or regulation but due to precedent you’re not supposed to apply it). Lately for some reason I’ve been remembering a lot a coworker being completely confused by how to find out legal information in Spain. We explained that since laws are mainly built top-to-bottom, getting more detail as you get to a lower level, and a law can never contradict another one, you search bottom-up: is there a regulation at the local level? If “yes”, apply it (it will include any upper-level laws which may exist); if “no”, search at the regional level, and so forth. He was super confused “but what else?” and we were super confused by his confusion. A lot of the US legal system is based on whatelses. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40989 "2020-03-01T08:33:22Z")
[A blast from the past shows that describing facts as “demcratic hoax” is nothing to new to the cheeto-in-chief](https://apnews.com/5c66d6371d084307aa1f09c7ef456caf/AP-FACT-CHECK:-Trump-stirs-up-a-hurricane-story): > [@](#): > > TRUMP: “3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000… This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!” —tweets Thursday. > > THE FACTS: Trump’s denial of nearly 3,000 deaths is baseless, however imprecise estimated death tolls can be from a disaster. > > Independent researchers at George Washington University estimated 2,975 excess deaths related to Hurricane Maria in the six months following the hurricane, which hit last September. Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello commissioned the study and accepted the death toll as the best available. Rossello rejected the findings of a different study that estimated more than 4,000 died, saying he found the GWU research with its lower number to be scientifically sound. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40990 "2020-03-01T14:09:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I thought Trump hated gay stuff. He sure seemed to like cross dressing JulieAnnie. Although maybe he thought he really was a woman. Hoax! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40991 "2020-03-01T14:28:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [A blast from the past shows that describing facts as “demcratic hoax” is nothing to new to the cheeto-in-chief](https://apnews.com/5c66d6371d084307aa1f09c7ef456caf/AP-FACT-CHECK:-Trump-stirs-up-a-hurricane-story): > > > [@](#): > > > > TRUMP: “3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000… This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!” —tweets Thursday. > > > > THE FACTS: Trump’s denial of nearly 3,000 deaths is baseless, however imprecise estimated death tolls can be from a disaster. > > > > Independent researchers at George Washington University estimated 2,975 excess deaths related to Hurricane Maria in the six months following the hurricane, which hit last September. Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello commissioned the study and accepted the death toll as the best available. Rossello rejected the findings of a different study that estimated more than 4,000 died, saying he found the GWU research with its lower number to be scientifically sound. Geez, Louise. I had forgotten about this. :smack: TBH It’s hard to remember ALL his lies, especially when he generates new ones every day. I can just hear him after the Spanish flu epidemic post-WWI: _“No, no-- 200 million people DIDN’T die! The Democrats made that up! Yeah, some people died, but it was only about 14 guys, and they died from eating bad shrimp.”_ ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40992 "2020-03-01T15:06:22Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > He’s a crisis actor. He was one of the Sandy Hook ‘parents’ – natch. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40993 "2020-03-01T15:53:29Z")
Suppose the government of Zambonia, in a fit of forward thinking, purchased a couple of million kits, or say fifty million face masks. And the US government offers Zambonia the opportunity to share. With us. Or else. Some number of Zambonians will be lost, some number of Americans, saved. I know what policy Trump would pursue. How about you? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40994 "2020-03-01T17:44:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Geez, Louise. I had forgotten about this. :smack: TBH It’s hard to remember ALL his lies, especially when he generates new ones every day. > > I can just hear him after the Spanish flu epidemic post-WWI: _“No, no-- 200 million people DIDN’T die! The Democrats made that up! Yeah, some people died, but it was only about 14 guys, and they died from eating bad shrimp.”_ Curse you, now I need to find a good Mexican restaurant that can cook me up a big ugly plate of camarones a la diabla. There used to be one right over nearby, but they closed up a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40995 "2020-03-01T18:32:11Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > camarones a la diabla I first read that as _cojones_ a la diabla. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40996 "2020-03-02T03:24:16Z")
[Oh, SNAP!](https://apnews.com/c0762db1f9711114d5dbbf6290b1ce01) > [@](#): > > A federal judge has ruled that Ken Cuccinelli was unlawfully appointed to lead the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services agency and, as a result, lacked authority to give asylum seekers less time to prepare for initial screening interviews. > > Cuccinelli, a former Virginia attorney general and an immigration hardliner, was named to a new position of “principal deputy director” in June, which immediately made him acting director because Lee Francis Cissna had just resigned. The agency grants green cards and other visas and also oversees asylum officers. > > U.S. District Judge Randolph Moss in Washington found Cuccinelli’s appointment violated the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, a 1998 law governing who is eligible to lead federal agencies in an acting capacity. The impact of the ruling wasn’t immediately clear. ---
**Author:** ![Biggus\_Richard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@Biggus\_Richard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggus_Richard)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40997 "2020-03-03T00:55:00Z")
We’re not going to see the clusterfuck, are we? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40998 "2020-03-03T01:00:36Z")
> [@Biggus\_Richard](#): > > We’re not going to see the clusterfuck, are we? Si quaeras clusterfuck, circumspice. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/40999 "2020-03-03T01:06:49Z")
Or like the fish said: What water? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41000 "2020-03-03T01:44:28Z")
Glorious Leader [shows his deep understanding](https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1234605879170936832) of the egghead scientimifical stuff: > [@Schmuck l'Orange](#): > > “So, this would be a combination of a vaccine and also it will – put it in a different way – make you better, quicker?” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41001 "2020-03-03T01:48:31Z")
Is he trying to say that one shot would be both a vaccine and a treatment? Is there anything like that currently?? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41002 "2020-03-03T02:22:06Z")
Untold numbers of lives may be on the line, and some poor bastard has the job of trying to educate an adamant moron. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41003 "2020-03-03T02:37:10Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Untold numbers of lives may be on the line, and some poor bastard has the job of trying to educate an adamant moron. [But his rallies are “very safe”!](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/03/02/trump-proclaims-his-campaign-rallies-very-safe-from-coronavirus/23938772/) You must be mistaken about his grasp of publich health issues. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41004 "2020-03-03T02:42:32Z")
It does happen! They just simply disappear for all kinds of really good reasons we don’t understand. It could just go _poof! gone!_. And Il Douche would claim miraculous credit and would be believed. Me, I will probably revisit my opinions regarding practical Satanism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2049) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2051)