# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41045 "2020-03-05T19:26:11Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> It’s all gut feelings and you have to admit his gut is quite impressive.

It’s having to feel it that’s bothering me.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41046 "2020-03-05T21:21:28Z")

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I hope that any of Individual 1’s staff that come down with Covid agree with him that it’s okay to go to work if you have it.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41047 "2020-03-05T22:43:38Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I hope that any of Individual 1’s staff that come down with Covid agree with him that it’s okay to go to work if you have it.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41048 "2020-03-05T22:44:23Z")

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In the [Better Late Than Never category](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-trump-census/facebook-decides-to-take-down-trump-2020-campaigns-census-ads-idUSKBN20S2R2): (Reuters)

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> Facebook Inc on Thursday removed ads by President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign that asked users to fill out an “Official 2020 Congressional District Census” because the ads violate the company’s policy against misinformation on the government’s census.
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> The ads, which come from the pages of the Republican president and Vice President Mike Pence, link to a survey on an official campaign website and then to a page asking for donations.
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> “We need Patriotic Americans like YOU to respond to this census, so we can develop a winning strategy for YOUR STATE,” the ad read.
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> The online newsletter Popular Information, which first reported on the ads, said Facebook had originally said they did not violate its policy.

Sickening.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41049 "2020-03-05T23:33:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 says he has a “hunch” that the World Health Organization’s numbers on Covid-19 aren’t true.  
> He also suggested that it’s okay to go to work if you have it.  
> [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/05/trump-disputes-coronavirus-death-rate-121892](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/05/trump-disputes-coronavirus-death-rate-121892)

You have to admire his optimistic spin. It’s mild, it’s OK, go mingle with the masses at SXSW! Not the downer interpretation that more people may be unwitting vectors algebraically increasing the rate of spreading.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41050 "2020-03-05T23:54:26Z")

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During a FOIA lawsuit seeking the unredacted Mueller Report, the judge – a Republican appointee – called our Attorney General a lying sack of shit.

> [@nytimes](#):
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> Judge Reggie B. Walton said Mr. Barr could not be trusted and cited “inconsistencies” between his statements about the report when it was secret and its actual contents that turned out to be more damaging to President Trump.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41051 "2020-03-06T01:26:26Z")

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The coronavirus epidemic is soon going to hit an inflection point in the United States - we’re totally under-reporting the health crisis, but it will spread and it will cause panic once it does. It will become an existential crisis. Once it does, this health crisis could become a political crisis. It’s the perfect setup for an authoritarian to declare an emergency.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41052 "2020-03-06T01:37:15Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The coronavirus epidemic is soon going to hit an inflection point in the United States - we’re totally under-reporting the health crisis, but it will spread and it will cause panic once it does. It will become an existential crisis. Once it does, this health crisis could become a political crisis. It’s the perfect setup for an authoritarian to declare an emergency.

Postpone forever the election!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41053 "2020-03-06T01:58:41Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The coronavirus epidemic is soon going to hit an inflection point in the United States - we’re totally under-reporting the health crisis, but it will spread and it will cause panic once it does. It will become an existential crisis. Once it does, this health crisis could become a political crisis. It’s the perfect setup for an authoritarian to declare an emergency.

That clown authoritarian in office has already declared an emergency. Of course, it wasn’t about any real emergency and certainly not related to the current crisis. But his minions lapped it up. They’ll love it when he declares yet another one over this “hoax”.

We are truly and completely fucked.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41054 "2020-03-06T02:05:27Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The coronavirus epidemic is soon going to hit an inflection point in the United States - we’re totally under-reporting the health crisis, but it will spread and it will cause panic once it does. It will become an existential crisis. Once it does, this health crisis could become a political crisis. It’s the perfect setup for an authoritarian to declare an emergency.

Or it’s the perfect setup to expose an incompetent buffoon for what he is.

If Trump was interested in seizing emergency power, he’d be trying to incite panic. Instead, he’s doing just the opposite – making ridiculously unfounded rosy pronouncements of “all is under control and everybody’s fine and go ahead and go to work.” This is somebody desperately hoping to prop up the stock market as his path to success, not someone fomenting a coup.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41055 "2020-03-06T03:31:39Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> The coronavirus epidemic is soon going to hit an inflection point in the United States - we’re totally under-reporting the health crisis …

No, we are not. Granted a sample size of 30K is rather small, but so far, it is not displaying an epidemic/pandemic profile. The edge-case fatality distribution is more like a normal flu-like affliction. If anything, the “crisis” is being over-reported.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41056 "2020-03-06T06:14:35Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Is he trying to say that one shot would be both a vaccine and a treatment?  
> Is there anything like that currently??

Yes. It’s administered by shotgun.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41057 "2020-03-06T12:19:02Z")

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The ignorance of some of Trump’s supporters.  
In addition to all of Trump’s bullshit about the virus and outbreak, my eye was caught by these comments:

[The Trump administration’s greatest obstacle to sending a clear message on coronavirus may be Trump himself](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-coronavirus-clear-message-obstacle/2020/03/05/4f739414-5efe-11ea-b29b-9db42f7803a7_story.html)

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> Some of the president’s supporters, however, have opted to take his word — even if it contradicts his administration’s experts.
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> At a rally in North Carolina on Monday, several of Trump’s backers said they did not consider the coronavirus dangerous — with one telling an NBC News reporter she did not believe the virus existed.
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> “It’s not that dangerous,” Deborah Cardwell, 63, of Iron Station, N.C., who attended Trump’s rally on Monday told The Washington Post. “I mean, the flu is a whole lot worse.”
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> Cardwell said Trump’s leadership on the coronavirus was reminiscent of “George Washington or some of the early presidents.”
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> Others at the rally said they didn’t see the new virus as much different than the flu, a comparison that Trump has made, and that they have confidence in what the president has said and done.
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> “He has handled it just fantastic,” said Tish Schultheiss, 68, of Greensboro, N.C. “Because he stopped it early, the flights coming in from countries that did have it. He has got a task force now that’s working on this. A vaccine will be made before long. I feel safe about that, too.”

Yep. Trump has done a fantastic job. No need to listen to experts–it’s all a Democratic hoax anyway. And, besides, Trump is just cleaning up Obama’s mess. And the virus may not even exist–that’s how effective Trump has been–retroactive eradication!

I’m willing to bet if you put Tony Fauci (NIH/NIAID director of almost 40 years) and Trump in front of certain supporters to give facts and answer questions about the virus and outbreak, they would go with Trump’s BS.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41058 "2020-03-06T12:31:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, we are not. Granted a sample size of 30K is rather small, but so far, it is not displaying an epidemic/pandemic profile. The edge-case fatality distribution is more like a normal flu-like affliction. If anything, the “crisis” is being over-reported.

It can be both. More than doubling the yearly flu toll with something you can’t even vaccinate against is nothing [del]to sneeze at[/del] to dismiss out of hand.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41059 "2020-03-06T12:35:56Z")

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We’ve gone a long time, a surprisingly long time, with the Trump Administration’s incompetence not touching the average American (excepting Puerto Rico). That is now changing, and will be even more pronounced in the upcoming weeks and months.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41060 "2020-03-06T12:36:07Z")

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[Donny just loves the WuFlu](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-likes-coronavirus-americans-staying-035822954.html)! Of course he doesn’t seem to understand the idea of quarantine, or public health for that matter.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41061 "2020-03-06T15:34:58Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41062 "2020-03-06T15:39:20Z")

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If you get the virus, and have a mild, non-fatal case, are you thereby immune? Can you go help people without worrying about getting it? Can you still spread the virus even though it cannot affect you?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41063 "2020-03-06T17:16:15Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Donny just loves the WuFlu](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-likes-coronavirus-americans-staying-035822954.html)! Of course he doesn’t seem to understand the idea of quarantine, or public health for that matter.

I’m sure he does love that Americans are not travelling overseas, where they might learn something, or be exposed to how social democratic countries actually work better than the shit-show they have at home.

Trump should just emulate his lover, Kim Jong, and forbid travel outside of the USA for anyone without his personal permission. Build a giant wall around the country. Much easier to control your population this way.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41064 "2020-03-06T17:45:06Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m sure he does love that Americans are not travelling overseas, where they might learn something, or be exposed to how social democratic countries actually work better than the shit-show they have at home.
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> Trump should just emulate his lover, Kim Jong, and forbid travel outside of the USA for anyone without his personal permission. \*\*Build a giant wall around the country. \*\* Much easier to control your population this way.

My bold.

And get China to pay for it!

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