# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41105 "2020-03-07T17:03:29Z")

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Thank God the Trump family knows what is the most important thing to be concerned about in the nation today.

Never again will first families go without [the ability to gather and spend leisure time.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/07/politics/melania-trump-defends-tennis-pavilion-coronavirus/index.html) Whew.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41106 "2020-03-07T17:29:29Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> [trump knows everything about epidemiology.](https://theweek.com/speedreads/900702/trump-says-doctors-keep-asking-how-knows-much-about-coronavirus) Except how to pronounce it, instead calling it “this stuff”.
> 
> “People come up to me, doctors, medical folk, the best…even scientists…they say, sir, we hear you know all about this stuff. You should have been a doctor.”

Because everyone wants a doctor with a massive ego, with a wide band of ignorance running through it. And by the way, whenever DOTUS says something preceded by “People say. . .” or anything similar, it translates to “Listen to this fucking whopper I’m about to tell you.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41107 "2020-03-07T17:42:40Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Letter?

probably [this one](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/17/read-donald-trump-letter-nancy-pelosi-086529)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41108 "2020-03-07T19:59:23Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Why won’t this stupid motherfucker suffer and die?

Antibiotic tanning cream.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41109 "2020-03-07T20:23:26Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I’m having trouble finding the answer: who will appoint Meadows’s replacement? If it’s the governor, that could really shake up the contest for Meadows’s seat.

In case anyone’s interested, the seat will stay vacant until January unless Democratic governor Roy Cooper decides to hold a special election. As of this morning, he hadn’t signaled his intentions, but from a purely political perspective he may decide just to leave it empty, to deny Republicans one extra vote in Congress.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41110 "2020-03-07T20:25:10Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Why won’t this stupid motherfucker suffer and die?

Wanting him to suffer is unacceptable. I mean, compassion notwithstanding, why should want him to delay the final curtain by any means? What is there to be gained by not being expeditious?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41111 "2020-03-07T20:47:28Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Wanting him to suffer is unacceptable. I mean, compassion notwithstanding, why should want him to delay the final curtain by any means? What is there to be gained by not being expeditious?

Because he _deserves_ to suffer. Punishment ends when you die.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41112 "2020-03-07T21:32:02Z")

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At some event in Tennessee yesterday, Trump appeared to have wet pants. It could be an odd shadow; could be that he got wet clearing debris; could be that he sat on a wet chair.

But I’m going with: he pissed himself.

> **[People On Social Media Speculate After Photo Of Trump In Tennessee Appears To...](https://polinews.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/)**
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> Oh dear, he did a no-no in his big boy pants.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41113 "2020-03-07T21:35:36Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> At some event in Tennessee yesterday, Trump appeared to have wet pants. It could be an odd shadow; could be that he got wet clearing debris; could be that he sat on a wet chair.
> 
> But I’m going with: he pissed himself.
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> [https://politicaltribune.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/](https://politicaltribune.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/)

And yes, we should be kind and not mock elderly people struggling with incontinence. Unless it’s Donald Trump, in which case mock away because that’s exactly what Trump would do to anyone he disliked who showed up in public with wet pants.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41114 "2020-03-07T21:40:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [It looks like Pence will need to be tested for COVID-19](https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-confirmed-two-attendees-us-pro-israel-summit-014428574.html). I wonder if he’ll get tested for this “hoax” before [that quarantined nurse does](https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-nurse-symptoms-hits-cdc-142219839.html).

Hmm. [Clinicians were cleared to use their own judgement](https://www.aappublications.org/news/2020/03/05/coronavirus030520) in ordering tests (when they can get them) **two days ago.** [Symptoms can first appear as much as 14 days after exposure.](https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.org/2020/03/02/frequently-asked-questions-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/) Contrary to the link \*\*Monty \*\*posted, [COVID-19 can spread before symptoms develop.](https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.org/2020/03/02/frequently-asked-questions-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/)

So how did tests of these guys get done an results released so quickly? How many conference attendees were really exposed? And to **Monty’s** comment, did Pence shake hands with either of them?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41115 "2020-03-07T23:59:21Z")

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Who here thinks it is a good idea to take advice about disease prevention from a guy known for rawdogging porn stars?  
(credit “Betty Bowers” tweet)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41116 "2020-03-08T00:06:50Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> At some event in Tennessee yesterday, Trump appeared to have wet pants. It could be an odd shadow; could be that he got wet clearing debris; could be that he sat on a wet chair.
> 
> But I’m going with: he pissed himself.
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> [https://politicaltribune.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/](https://politicaltribune.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/)

> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> And yes, we should be kind and not mock elderly people struggling with incontinence. Unless it’s Donald Trump, in which case mock away because that’s exactly what Trump would do to anyone he disliked who showed up in public with wet pants.

I agree with both of you. 😉

Seriously, though, I can easily accept the ‘stain’ as being a shadow. Given there is, as far as I can tell, only the one shot, I would take a ‘wait and see’ on this one.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41117 "2020-03-08T00:17:51Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> At some event in Tennessee yesterday, Trump appeared to have wet pants. It could be an odd shadow; could be that he got wet clearing debris; could be that he sat on a wet chair.
> 
> But I’m going with: he pissed himself.
> 
> [https://politicaltribune.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/](https://politicaltribune.org/people-on-social-media-speculate-after-photo-of-trump-in-tennessee-appears-to-show-him-in-wet-pants-hes-leaking/)

I think it’s just water from when he (or more likely some lackey) tried to clean his pants after he creamed his jeans [talking about how awesome it was for a little boy who “got to fly” in a tornado when the tornado killed the little boy’s family](https://www.yahoo.com/news/zero-empathy-trump-shows-lack-230400652.html).

And what is this nonsense?

[QUOTE=that dungheap called the current president]  
flown to a certain area  
[/quote]

Am I the only one who thinks that clown always talks like an addle-brained incompetent D&D dungeon master?

> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> And yes, we should be kind and not mock elderly people struggling with incontinence. Unless it’s Donald Trump, in which case mock away because that’s exactly what Trump would do to anyone he disliked who showed up in public with wet pants.

Heck, he’d just lie and say someone with dry pants had wet himself.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Who here thinks it is a good idea to take advice about disease prevention from a guy known for rawdogging porn stars?  
> (credit “Betty Bowers” tweet)

Aaaaaaaahhhhh! My eyes! My brain! Quick! I need eye-bleach and mental floss!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41118 "2020-03-08T00:25:25Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Aaaaaaaahhhhh! My eyes! My brain! Quick! I need eye-bleach and mental floss!

We have been through 37 months of this clusterfuckface von clownstink and only now you are finally crying out for relief?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41119 "2020-03-08T00:26:35Z")

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[A person has tested positive for coronavirus after attending a conservative conference where White House officials were present](https://www.businessinsider.com/cpac-attendee-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-2020-3).

In case you haven’t read it recently, here’s the full text to [The Masque of the Red Death](https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41120 "2020-03-08T00:28:22Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I think it’s just water from when he (or more likely some lackey) tried to clean his pants after he creamed his jeans [talking about how awesome it was for a little boy who “got to fly” in a tornado when the tornado killed the little boy’s family](https://www.yahoo.com/news/zero-empathy-trump-shows-lack-230400652.html).
> 
> …

Sweet Jesus. ☹

**[‘Zero-empathy’ Trump shows lack of emotion when told about 8-year-old boy’s family being killed in tornado](https://www.yahoo.com/news/zero-empathy-trump-shows-lack-230400652.html)**

> [@](#):
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> As Trump stood in front of destroyed homes he spoke to the press about an 8-year-old boy who was carried away from his family home by a tornado, only to land alive two blocks away.
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> “An 8-year-old boy was ripped out, flown to a certain area and dropped off at the street two or three blocks away and they found him walking and he said ‘I just flew in the air,” said Trump in the Fox News video.
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> After asking ”how did his parents do?” and being informed the boy’s parents and sister had died in the storms he relayed that information to the crowd before moving on by saying “So we’re gonna go see some of the folks.”
> 
> No condolences were expressed from the president. Twitter user @mysterysolvent expressed disbelief at the way he acted.  
> [INDENT]_ARE YOU KIDDING ME???  
> Trump while visiting tornado victims in TN tells a story about a boy being carried by the tornado, like it’s the greatest thing he’s ever heard! Then he asks about the parents…People tell him they’re dead along with his sister. No emotion, NOTHING! Idiot!_[/INDENT]  
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41121 "2020-03-08T00:28:33Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> [A person has tested positive for coronavirus after attending a conservative conference where White House officials were present](https://www.businessinsider.com/cpac-attendee-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-2020-3).
> 
> In case you haven’t read it recently, here’s the full text to [The Masque of the Red Death](https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death).

Thanks for the link, LHoD!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41122 "2020-03-08T00:35:41Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> [A person has tested positive for coronavirus after attending a conservative conference where White House officials were present](https://www.businessinsider.com/cpac-attendee-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-2020-3).
> 
> In case you haven’t read it recently, here’s the full text to [The Masque of the Red Death](https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death).

Pretty much memorized the damn thing. Possibly my favorite Poe tale.

“…and Darkness, and Decay, and the Red Death, held illimitable dominion over all…”

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41123 "2020-03-08T00:39:27Z")

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Ever see the Irish stained-glass artist Harry Clarke’s illustration for the 1919 edition?

“Masque” is down in the eighth row.

> **[Harry Clarke’s Illustrations for Poe’s Tales of Mystery and Imagination (1919)](https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/harry-clarke-s-illustrations-for-poe-s-tales-of-mystery-and-imagination-1919)**
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> Of all the illustrators, perhaps it is Clarke who has come closest to evoking the delirious claustrophobia and frightening inventiveness of “Poe-land”.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41124 "2020-03-08T00:39:36Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> We have been through 37 months of this clusterfuckface von clownstink and only now you are finally crying out for relief?

It’s been my mantra for a while now.

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