# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41425 "2020-03-13T19:49:22Z")

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Thanks to those who are taking one for the team.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41426 "2020-03-13T19:52:05Z")

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They just put the Dow ticker up on Fox News. LOL

Capitolism will save us all folks!!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41427 "2020-03-13T19:54:37Z")

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Fuck off, Pence. Craven-ass “dear leader” shitbag. FUCK OFF.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41428 "2020-03-13T19:55:09Z")

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And here comes cheerleader Mikey Pence! He gets to recap all the wonderful leadership over the last few weeks from Orangeanus.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41429 "2020-03-13T19:58:05Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> How hard is it to make a self-own look so easy?

WTF are you talking about. I posted 2 examples of several unknown variables and said that they are worst case scenarios. I didn’t show any math because there isn’t any decent math to do when all of your numbers are imaginary.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41430 "2020-03-13T20:04:02Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> #Covfefe-19
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> I think they’re still working on getting the tranquilizers right.
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> Also, Jim Acosta noted that he is scheduled to speak without a teleprompter.
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> [https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1238541856931295232?s=20](https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1238541856931295232?s=20)
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> Edit: Looks like he has a written speech.
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> DJIA at start of speech: 21,995.

Closed at 23,181, so the parade of DJIA-heavy CEO’s offering reassurances and fealty seemed to have an impact.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41431 "2020-03-13T20:05:00Z")

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> [@Trump](#):
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> Or worse. It could get a lot worse.

:eek:

That’ll calm the markets down, Donny! Keep talking!

Fucking lying braggart asshole cocksucking dipshit motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41432 "2020-03-13T20:06:28Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> DJIA at start of speech: 21,995.

It’s now 23,186. It looks like Trump _finally_ said something that the markets wanted to hear. Third time’s the charm.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41433 "2020-03-13T20:15:10Z")

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I refused to take one for the team…but based on the eye-rolling press response (even NPR reporters tweeted their disgust) it sounds like it was National Emergency plus an overwhelming dose of self-congratulation and fawning adulation.

It sounds like Trump realizes he really screwed the pooch Wednesday night, and needed to get back out there and get fluffed.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41434 "2020-03-13T20:20:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> It’s now 23,186. It looks like Trump _finally_ said something that the markets wanted to hear. Third time’s the charm.

I wasn’t able to watch the speech. Did it resemble [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd_zs8AwoTQ) in any way?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41435 "2020-03-13T20:21:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I refused to take one for the team…but based on the eye-rolling press response (even NPR reporters tweeted their disgust) it sounds like it was National Emergency plus an overwhelming dose of self-congratulation and fawning adulation.

Reverse those two and you’ve got it right.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> It sounds like Trump realizes he really screwed the pooch Wednesday night, and needed to get back out there and get fluffed.

Of course he knew that. He knew that as soon as he stopped talking Wednesday; hence the “Ooooookay.”

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41436 "2020-03-13T20:24:58Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Closed at 23,181, so the parade of DJIA-heavy CEO’s offering reassurances and fealty seemed to have an impact.

We’ll see.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41437 "2020-03-13T20:27:39Z")

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A reporter just asked Individual 1 about his closing the epidemic control offices and he said “I don’t know anything about that, if that happened, it was somebody else who did it, not me, and that’s a nasty question.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41438 "2020-03-13T20:28:52Z")

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Yeah, note how the presser turned in regards to tone the second the markets closed. They should’ve taken the W and not taken any questions.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41439 "2020-03-13T20:32:17Z")

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Individual 1 just said don’t get tested unless you think you needed it, now in response to a question from a reporter, he says he’s going to get tested even though he doesn’t think he needs it.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41440 "2020-03-13T20:38:04Z")

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Aye; that was hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41441 "2020-03-13T20:54:22Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> said that they are worst case scenarios.

Yeah, and using those worst case scenario numbers results in an order of magnitude more deaths than estimated.

Cut the bullshit. You intimated he was using a worst case scenario when he tossed out a number. That was plainly not the case. Purely alarmist numbers would be an order of magnitude higher, which was not the case here.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41442 "2020-03-13T20:54:40Z")

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Why bother creating a task force and appointing a spokesman for that task force, if you wind up having an 8-person press conference? So nobody is actually authorized to speak? In other words: Pence is useless as tits on a bull.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41443 "2020-03-13T21:07:32Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Yeah, and using those worst case scenario numbers results in an order of magnitude more deaths than estimated.
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> Cut the bullshit. You intimated he was using a worst case scenario when he tossed out a number. That was plainly not the case. Purely alarmist numbers would be an order of magnitude higher, which was not the case here.

Thanks for the answer. I was truly WTF.

They are worse care scenarios in that they are higher than any actual real numbers. Sure instead of 70% it could have been 100. Instead of 3.8 it could have been 100.

If your “owning myself” was over my use of “worse case scenario” well then sure.

My post said it was nonsense and it is. He used numbers at the upper edge of reality, and since proven wrong, to come up with a number that that doesn’t take into account any mitigating factors such as quarantine. Still not seeing any “self own”.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41444 "2020-03-14T00:05:34Z")

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His supporters don’t believe that people died in school shootings , they’re sure not going to believe in death-by-covid.

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