# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41686 "2020-03-21T20:28:49Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Well, like the rest of us, it’s a new situation for him. He can’t appoint a toady virus as ‘acting’ disease.

Sort of waiting for Trump to appoint someone as the acting disease.

Then all he will need to do is say how great they did, fire them and declare the pandemic to be over. It’s quite simple really.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41687 "2020-03-21T21:02:08Z")

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Another one for the highlight reel

Trump added that China “was very secretive and that’s unfortunate.”

On January 24, Trump praised China and President Xi Jinping for the country’s “efforts and transparency” in dealing with the coronavirus. That praise came nearly a month after the country informed the World Health Organization about the virus.  
When asked by CNN’s Jeremy Diamond on Saturday about his previous praise, Trump said he thought the country could have warned other nations sooner than it did.

“Because China has worked very hard,” he said. “China was transparent at that time but when we saw what happened, they could have been transparent much earlier than they were.”  
He went on to criticize what he said was China’s waiting to tell the US."

Even imagining the pretzel logic of Trump’s “mind”, this one counfounds me. They were transparent until they wern’t transparent and they were transparent in the beginning but now they are not and it’s all Obama’s fault.

> **[Trump on China: 'I wish they'd told us earlier' about coronavirus | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/trump-china-told-us-coronavirus/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump said Saturday that he wished China would have told him earlier about the novel coronavirus, despite previously praising the country's transparency on the issue.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41688 "2020-03-21T21:13:54Z")

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Been a busy week for me, so sorry if I missed any of this. But why does that orange piece of fuck who masquerades as a president have to keep speaking every day? That’s a rhetorical question, because I know the answer: Now that he can no longer brush this off as a hoax, he wants to be the Big Hero. But now it’s coming out that the intelligence community earlier this year tried to warn Chump of a possible outbreak but was roundly ignored.

Maybe I have just been missing it, but have the Chump Trash on this Board suddenly gone mysteriously quiet?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41689 "2020-03-21T21:19:00Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Been a busy week for me, so sorry if I missed any of this. But why does that orange piece of fuck who masquerades as a president have to keep speaking every day? That’s a rhetorical question, because I know the answer: Now that he can no longer brush this off as a hoax, he wants to be the Big Hero. But now it’s coming out that the intelligence community earlier this year tried to warn Chump of a possible outbreak but was roundly ignored.
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> Maybe I have just been missing it, but have the Chump Trash on this Board suddenly gone mysteriously quiet?

They’re practicing distancing. Let’s hope they become experts.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41690 "2020-03-22T00:28:41Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Hmm, Trump has been in office three years. If the previous system was so broken, I wonder why it took him so long to fix it.

I think he’s laying the groundwork to claim credit for everything the Biden administration fixes in the next four years.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41691 "2020-03-22T01:27:16Z")

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> [@DummyGladHands](#):
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> I am so worried that Fauci is on thin ice, and he’s at least credible, but that face palm today scares me for him

Worry about Pence, too. Today he _ **directly contradicted Trump** _----and from Trump’s face, he’s not going to let it go.

The interaction starts about 1 hour 12 minutes in, and Pence’s response is at about 1 hour, 14 minutes, 5 seconds. Reporters are asking Trump about availability of equipment including ventilators, and whether US facilities (such as closed-down auto plants) could start making ventilators.

Trump throws cold water on the idea that any factory other than existing ventilator-factories could be converted to make ventilators. He says that the problem with the idea is that “a ventilator is a machine, a very complex machine…a very sophisticated heavily computerized machine, and delicate.”

Then he calls Pence over to answer when a reporter presses to get the number of ventilators available now and when more will become available, and Pence says: “manufacturers tell us that a ventilator actually isn’t a very complicated piece of equipment.”

Look at Trump’s face. He is _pissed._

(Only place I could find any video showing that interaction seems to be a YouTube channel run by a conservative group, but: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CfENQXETW4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CfENQXETW4) )

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41692 "2020-03-22T04:10:34Z")

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The damn dirty lying sack of dung just had this to say: [“I just wish they could have told us earlier”](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-china-just-wish-could-200507896.html)  
WTF? WTBH? WTFDIJR? WWJD? CTR!

Trump is blaming China for not giving much notice about a disease that Trump himself early on labeled a hoax, and said “hoax” for which he had congratulated China on its handling thereof.

Look, Trump, you damn dirty lying sack of dung:

They told you.  
You ignored them.  
Your own government’s experts (the few remaining after you fired them) told you.  
You ignored them.  
Other scientists told you.  
You ignored them.  
When the virus hit the fan, you flat out lied.  
That’s all you know how to do.

I wish you had never been born, you piece of shit.

“WTF? WTBH? WTFDIJR? WWJD? CTR!” = “What The Fuck? What The Bloody Hell? What The Fuck Did I Just Read? What Would Jesus Do? Choose The Right!”

And that damn dirty lying sack of dung is most assuredly not the right.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41693 "2020-03-22T04:18:57Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Worry about Pence, too. Today he _ **directly contradicted Trump** _----and from Trump’s face, he’s not going to let it go.

I wonder how the damn dirty lying sack of dung is going to react when he discovers that Pence can only be fired during this term by that fake process of impeachment.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41694 "2020-03-22T04:21:41Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Look at Trump’s face. He is _pissed._
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> (Only place I could find any video showing that interaction seems to be a YouTube channel run by a conservative group, but: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CfENQXETW4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CfENQXETW4) )

Wow. I forgot about his response to that reporter. Again, wow. He accuses her of asking a “racist question”, but his response to her uses a well-known anti-semitic trope. Yeah, like _she_ is the racist in that interaction.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41695 "2020-03-22T05:18:30Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Yeah, like _she_ is the racist in that interaction.

She asked a question to an orange man that she wouldn’t have asked a white man.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41696 "2020-03-22T05:52:32Z")

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Maybe this has already been posted, but if so I haven’t seen it. The Orange Ignoramus probably already has wide latitude in what he can do after declaring an emergency so not sure how this would add to that if it went through.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023)

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> The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the coronavirus spreads through the United States.

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> The move has tapped into a broader fear among civil liberties advocates and Donald Trump’s critics — that the president will use a moment of crisis to push for controversial policy changes.

This wouldn’t pass the House but makes me wonder why DOJ would request it unless they have something up their sleeve already.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41697 "2020-03-22T09:05:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> She asked a question to an orange man that she wouldn’t have asked a white man.

I thought that Trump’s family hailed from Germany, not Ireland.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41698 "2020-03-22T09:17:01Z")

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From that video, it seems Fauci has learned to stand directly behind the speaker so the camera can’t catch him.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41699 "2020-03-22T09:55:52Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “WTF? WTBH? WTFDIJR? WWJD? CTR!” = “What The Fuck? What The Bloody Hell? What The Fuck Did I Just Read? What Would Jesus Do? Choose The Right!”

Got all of them pretty easily, except the last, which I had decided was possibly “cue the reindeer.”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41700 "2020-03-22T10:36:17Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > “WTF? WTBH? WTFDIJR? WWJD? CTR!” = “What The Fuck? What The Bloody Hell? What The Fuck Did I Just Read? What Would Jesus Do? Choose The Right!”
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> Got all of them pretty easily, except the last, which I had decided was possibly “cue the reindeer.”

[“CTR”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choose_the_right) is a big thing in Latter-day Saint circles. Actually, I’ve long thought it would be cool to get one of the “WWJD?” T-shirts and add “CTR!” on the back.

Now, let’s see who gets Post #41787

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41701 "2020-03-22T14:03:58Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Now, let’s see who gets Post #41787

Are you expecting us to take a quiz to assure you that we do?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41702 "2020-03-22T14:16:07Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> …Now, let’s see who gets Post #41787

I think everybody probably got it. It’s a bright group.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41703 "2020-03-22T15:14:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> She asked a question to an orange man that she wouldn’t have asked a white man.

> [@Monty](#):
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> I thought that Trump’s family hailed from Germany, not Ireland.

I thought Trump went to Wharton, not Syracuse.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41704 "2020-03-22T15:24:39Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I thought Trump went to Wharton, not Syracuse.

He sure as fuck wouldn’t have made it into Princeton.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41705 "2020-03-22T15:34:25Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> He sure as fuck wouldn’t have made it into Princeton.

Hell, he wouldn’t have made it into the local community junior college. You have to be able to read and write. :rolleyes:

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