# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2086
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41706 "2020-03-22T18:21:57Z")
Individual 1’s hairbrained quinine cocktail is causing real world problems. Two people in Nigeria overdosed. > **[Nigeria Reports Chloroquine Poisonings as Trump Keeps Pushing Drug Against...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/nigeria-chloroquine-poisonings-trump-pushing-drug-coronavirus.html)** > > Doctors are worried the president's words could lead to shortages of the old malaria drugs that patients with lupus and other illnesses need. And people who need it to treat their lupus can’t get it. > **[Lupus Patients Can’t Get Crucial Medication After President Trump Pushes...](https://www.propublica.org/article/lupus-patients-cant-get-crucial-medication-after-president-trump-pushes-unproven-coronavirus-treatment)** > > Trump’s unproven claim that hydroxychloroquine could be used to treat COVID-19 has led to hoarding, putting Lupus patients and others at even greater risk. As of Saturday afternoon, Anna Valdez had 27 pills left. That number is now down to 25. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41707 "2020-03-22T19:27:21Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hell, he wouldn’t have made it into the local community junior college. You have to be able to read and write. :rolleyes: I only brought up Princeton because its school color, like Syracuse’s, is orange. I imagine that makes it difficult to maintain any form of dignity at university functions. Do they even make orange cutaways? > **[Tailcoat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailcoat)** > > = Day (before 6 p.m.) = Evening (after 6 p.m.)    = Bow tie colour = Ladies = Gentlemen > A tailcoat is a knee-length coat characterised by a rear section of the skirt (known as the tails), with the front of the skirt cut away. > The tailcoat shares its historical origins in clothes cut for convenient horse-riding in the Early Modern era. From the 18th century, however, tailcoats evolved into general forms of day and evening formal wear, in parallel to how the lounge suit succeeded the frock coa... ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41708 "2020-03-22T21:04:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think he’s laying the groundwork to claim credit for everything the Biden administration fixes in the next four years. “I was on tee vee again”!!! COVID is his new reality show. I hope they televise his court appearances. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41709 "2020-03-22T21:16:53Z")
The funny thing is that Trump has been on TV almost every day; more times in the past week than the entire previous three years of his administration. My mother’s theory was that he can’t bask in the adulation at one of his rallies so instead he has to do this. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41710 "2020-03-22T21:23:59Z")
Need a new reality show. A real one that deals in facts. Trump can be the defendant. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41711 "2020-03-22T21:39:09Z")
It is 303 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, 22 seconds until Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:00:00 noon (Washington DC, District of Columbia time); can the US survive until then? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41712 "2020-03-22T21:47:09Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > It is 303 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, 22 seconds until Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:00:00 noon (Washington DC, District of Columbia time); can the US survive until then? IMHO, no. Something’s gotta give before then. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41713 "2020-03-22T22:27:29Z")
Trump sounds congested and out of breath. And very, very tired. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41714 "2020-03-22T22:43:53Z")
I predict that we will have President Pence, _one way or another,_ before the Ides of October. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41715 "2020-03-22T22:49:35Z")
Watching the current briefing on the Corona virus. It’s reminding me of vintage Jerry Lewis MD telethons. Except…Jerry Lewis probably knew a shitload more about MD than Donnie knows about Corona virus. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41716 "2020-03-22T22:51:50Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump sounds congested and out of breath. And very, very tired. Just need some orange Rust Oleum spray paint, and someone to put a hand up his ass to make him nod. This has already been going on for years. His supporters will never know. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41717 "2020-03-22T22:55:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I predict that we will have President Pence, _one way or another,_ before the Ides of October. He has to stay in power as long as he’s alive, and he will take whatever opportunity he has to disrupt democracy. Look closely, and you’ll see what I’m referring to: [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023) > [@](#): > > **The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies** — part of a push for new powers that comes as the novel coronavirus spreads throughout the United States. > > Documents reviewed by POLITICO detail the department’s requests to lawmakers on a host of topics, including the statute of limitations, asylum and the way court hearings are conducted. POLITICO also reviewed and previously reported on documents seeking the authority to extend deadlines on merger reviews and prosecutions. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41718 "2020-03-22T22:56:38Z")
[_of course_](https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-outbid-states-on-medical-supplies-2020-3) _The federal government is outbidding states on orders of critical medical equipment necessary to aid patients and protect medical professionals from (foxtrump virus), even though (the Cheeto-Faced ShitGibbon) has repeatedly insisted states get their own supplies._ ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41719 "2020-03-22T23:09:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He has to stay in power as long as he’s alive, and he will take whatever opportunity he has to disrupt democracy. > > Look closely, and you’ll see what I’m referring to: > > [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023) Basically trying to suspend the Constitution. Good luck ramming that through Congress, motherfuckers. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41720 "2020-03-22T23:10:17Z")
Is the medical equipment that the federal government is outbidding the states on then going to red states? 'Cause that would fit the pattern. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41721 "2020-03-22T23:12:40Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Maybe this has already been posted, but if so I haven’t seen it. The Orange Ignoramus probably already has wide latitude in what he can do after declaring an emergency so not sure how this would add to that if it went through. > > [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023) > > This wouldn’t pass the House but makes me wonder why DOJ would request it unless they have something up their sleeve already. My idiot congressman and trump butt kisser Andy Biggs has come out against this. He never goes against his Sith Lord master. Makes me wonder what we’re missing. His idiot followers are spinning this as the “deep state” and the Democrats trying to remove our liberties. Don’t know how they can come up with that, considering it is trump’s DOJ, but they have. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41722 "2020-03-22T23:16:20Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Basically trying to suspend the Constitution. Good luck ramming that through Congress, motherfuckers. Think about this a little more. Bill Barr isn’t trying to ram anything through Congress. He’s not asking for permission. He’s telling Congress what he intends to do with this opportunity. He will interpret the Constitution in times of crisis as he sees fit, and he won’t stop unless there is sufficient political or judicial resistance to make him stop. He’s floating this out there to see how people react to it. It’s potentially even more dangerous if COVID begins to make its way around Capitol Hill and substantially interferes with Congress. The president could end up turning this into a power grab. And given the increasing likelihood of a massive economic downturn and a terrifying health scare, that possibility increases substantially. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41723 "2020-03-22T23:17:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I wonder how the damn dirty lying sack of dung is going to react when he discovers that Pence can only be fired during this term by that fake process of impeachment. Trump won’t be bothered by that; his style is more to pressure Pence to resign. '_I regret that my bad task-force leadership caused so many deaths during this pandemic; if only I had followed the wise advice of this good, good man, Donald Trump. But the responsibility is 100% mine, and mine alone.’_ Odds are Trump would make it worth Pence’s while; he’d sign over a tiny part of his own rake-off\* on the many deals now being made with pharmaceutical companies, protective-equipment makers, etc. Then Trump could get himself a more exciting running mate. Win-win! \*(super-secret off-shore accounts!) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41724 "2020-03-22T23:22:40Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > This wouldn’t pass the House but makes me wonder why DOJ would request it unless they have something up their sleeve already. Bingo. He’s not asking Congress for permission to do shit. He’s telling Congress what he intends to do with this opportunity. He’s putting this out there to see how people would react to it, and he’s also putting it out there to get Republicans on board with the idea. Look at the response now. The Republicans aren’t working with Democrats on the stimulus bill. They don’t intend to work with Democrats in a bipartisan manner. They will do whatever they can get away with, tell whatever lies that people can be led to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41725 "2020-03-22T23:40:27Z")
Not quite sure what to say about that press conference. Trump seems mostly unable to address the questions put to him, so it felt like some Kabuki dance where everyone was going through the motions. At one point he was rambling on about how he sacrificed billions to be president, almost as if that would justify big payments to his hotels through bailout money, but he didn’t quite go there and instead kind of gibbered for a minute while everyone kept a straight face. Asked about helping foreign countries fight the virus, he stepped into his role of Wartime President, battling the virus. So, to make himself seem more heroic he _hyped the virus_, claiming he was preventing “tremendous death, tremendous death” in these other countries. The virus that is loose now, threatening mass casualties and dropping us into an insta-depression- suddenly super duper deadly if not for Trump saving them/us from it :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2085) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2087)