# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2087
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41726 "2020-03-22T23:46:39Z")
only 5 gateway errors per post! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41727 "2020-03-22T23:46:40Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He has to stay in power as long as he’s alive, and he will take whatever opportunity he has to disrupt democracy. > > … I’m certainly not saying he’ll leave office voluntarily. I think he will either drop dead (most likely), or Mitch will pull the plug on him after seeing clearly that the country and the economy are headed over a cliff. Physically and mentally I don’t see how trump can last eight more months. Pence has to take over a decent amount of time before the Nov election. With him in place, the Pubbies will certainly want the election to go ahead by hook or by crook (their specialties). It will be possible to control Pence in a way that it has never been possible to control trump. He will be an agreeable puppet. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41728 "2020-03-23T00:07:50Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump sounds congested and out of breath. And very, very tired. At this point, Loser Donald is that one guy in a zombie movie who’s trying to hide the fact that he’s been bitten. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41729 "2020-03-23T00:37:46Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Is the medical equipment that the federal government is outbidding the states on then going to red states? 'Cause that would fit the pattern. The article only mentions 3 states: MA, NM and NY. - “I’m not quite sure what to do with this, so I’m just going to throw it out there for you,” (MA moderate-R Governor) Baker told (ShitGibbon). “We took very seriously the push … that we should not just rely on the stockpile, that we should go out there and buy stuff and put in orders and try to create pressure on manufacturers and distributors, and I gotta tell you that on three big orders, we lost to the feds. … I’ve got a feeling that if someone has the chance to sell to you and to sell to me, I am going to lose on every one of those.” Trump [color=DarkOrange] **chuckled at that** and then said the federal government probably offered the manufacturers a better price. \*[/COLOR] He thinks this shit is funny. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41730 "2020-03-23T01:08:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > At this point, Loser Donald is that one guy in a zombie movie who’s trying to hide the fact that he’s been bitten. Being naturally of suspicious mind, it wouldn’t surprise me if Moscow Mitch seized this golden opportunity to make sure Trump shook hands with an infected someone or several someones. The Orange Julius Caesar succumbs after touching his face about 3,000 times, 25th Amendment Time here we come and just like that, Pence is in, Trump is out. Neat as you please, the followers martyr him and transfer their fervent support to Pence and no one would ever know. Not for sure, anyway. Et, tu, McConnelle? I am by no means certain Pence wins in November, but it’s got to be a better shot for Republicans than with Trump at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41731 "2020-03-23T04:22:33Z")
Except that Pence was put “in charge” of the response. So he doesn’t come out of this smelling good either. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41732 "2020-03-23T04:51:17Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Except that Pence was put “in charge” of the response. So he doesn’t come out of this smelling good either. Agreed. He mainly thanks Orangeanus and dumps praise on him for “all he’s done”. I doubt how people will overlook that nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41733 "2020-03-23T15:48:59Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > My idiot congressman and trump butt kisser Andy Biggs has come out against this. He never goes against his Sith Lord master. Makes me wonder what we’re missing. > > His idiot followers are spinning this as the “deep state” and the Democrats trying to remove our liberties. Don’t know how they can come up with that, considering it is trump’s DOJ, but they have. I knew my congressman was Rick Stanton but when I looked it up in detail I was only a quarter mile from the border with Biggs’ district. Maybe redistricting will let me vote the bastard out. And so far as far out story-spinning is concerned, any tether between reality and what your typical Republican now believes was snapped years ago. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41734 "2020-03-23T16:10:23Z")
If y’all aren’t calling your (especially Republican) Senators and Congressmen now about how this is being handled… when are you going to call? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41735 "2020-03-23T18:16:59Z")
[Bill Barrow of the AP wonders if the president can regain control.](https://apnews.com/2e0ef1d9e3defb3317f320a07aa7f118) Doesn’t he realize that the last thing Trump wants is control? All he wants is the _appearance_ of being in charge and none of the responsibility, except when something good happens. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41736 "2020-03-23T18:26:43Z")
We really shouldn’t let the more heavily populated, urban states outbid and bully the rural states. Like, if we have fifty thousand ventilators, each state gets a thousand. That’s fair. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41737 "2020-03-23T18:33:49Z")
Associated Press fact checks Individual 1: No, the car manufacturers are NOT making ventilators. [AP FACT CHECK: Trump hype on auto industry and ventilators | AP News](https://apnews.com/17868870ddfc526c6c7f454d651b6d7f)? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41738 "2020-03-23T18:50:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We really shouldn’t let the more heavily populated, urban states outbid and bully the rural states. Like, if we have fifty thousand ventilators, each state gets a thousand. That’s fair. That’s fair? Why should Wyoming (population under 600,000) get the same number as New York (population over 19,400,000)? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41739 "2020-03-23T18:54:44Z")
To add to that, there are only [1,423 hospital beds in the entire state of Wyoming](http://www.wyominghealthcarecommission.com/handbook/hospitals.pdf). There are individual big-city hospitals with a higher bed count than that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41740 "2020-03-23T18:58:26Z")
If Wyoming can’t pay the increased prices for equipment, then tough shit for them. It’s the Free Market, baby! How do you like it now? If the people of Wyoming don’t like it, they can get private business to start their own factories. It’s the Republican Way. ---
**Author:** ![DirtyHippy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtyhippy/32/107_2.png) [@DirtyHippy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirtyHippy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41741 "2020-03-23T19:07:30Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s fair? Why should Wyoming (population under 600,000) get the same number as New York (population over 19,400,000)? It’s the collegial thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41742 "2020-03-23T19:27:00Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41743 "2020-03-23T19:34:08Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s fair? Why should Wyoming (population under 600,000) get the same number as New York (population over 19,400,000)? Why not? They have the same number of Senators. /s ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41744 "2020-03-23T19:38:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We really shouldn’t let the more heavily populated, urban states outbid and bully the rural states. Like, if we have fifty thousand ventilators, each state gets a thousand. That’s fair. ISWYDT! > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s fair? Why should Wyoming (population under 600,000) get the same number as New York (population over 19,400,000)? HDNSWYDT! > [@DirtyHippy](#): > > It’s the collegial thing to do. Bingo! > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If Wyoming can’t pay the increased prices for equipment, then tough shit for them. It’s the Free Market, baby! How do you like it now? > > If the people of Wyoming don’t like it, they can get private business to start their own factories. > > It’s the Republican Way. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41745 "2020-03-23T19:41:54Z")
OK, I have no idea what you mean with all of those idiotic acronyms. Please try using words, all spelled out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2086) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2088)