# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2089
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41766 "2020-03-24T21:44:13Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > I said this almost a month ago: > > I’m not happy to be right about the people dying part, and like a lot of people (most people?) I am taking a financial hit during this but I still hope I’m right that this brings Trump down. Latest Gallup poll has Trump matching his highest job approval rating. [People are fucking idiots](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489285-gallup-trump-job-approval-rating-matches-all-time-high) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41767 "2020-03-24T21:46:27Z")
To those polls, I will say this the weakest, most pathetic “rally around our President in a time of crisis” ever. The Bush’s were in the 90s, FDR got elected 4 times, Trump can barely break 48%. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41768 "2020-03-24T23:16:05Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Latest Gallup poll has Trump matching his highest job approval rating. [People are fucking idiots](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489285-gallup-trump-job-approval-rating-matches-all-time-high) The only thing that will end Trump is total disaster. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41769 "2020-03-24T23:22:09Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Latest Gallup poll has Trump matching his highest job approval rating. [People are fucking idiots](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489285-gallup-trump-job-approval-rating-matches-all-time-high) The only thing that will end Trump is total disaster. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41770 "2020-03-24T23:25:04Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The only thing that will end Trump is total disaster. I really, really don’t wish it on the USA[sup]\*[/sup], but with that kind of guidance from the administration, all things point to that outcome. \*) I REALLY wish it would make _poof_ and both nightmares, Trump and the virus were gone… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41771 "2020-03-24T23:26:45Z")
He’ll stick with what’s working: “This would have been a lot worse without me.” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41772 "2020-03-25T01:01:40Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If y’all aren’t calling your (especially Republican) Senators and Congressmen now about how this is being handled… when are you going to call? Hmmm, Senators Tammy “Watch out 2028” Duckworth and Dick “Minority Whip” Durbin. Rep Raja “On MSNBC Often” Krishnamoorthi. My dialing finger can rest. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41773 "2020-03-25T03:19:18Z")
What am I missing? 60% of Americans approve of his handling of this crisis. He is up among Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I can’t blame it all on his rabid base. Not only do we get a pandemic and a depression but apparently it will also guarantee his reelection.Not only that but the pandemic is going to hit worse in urban areas which means it will destroy the liberal base. When people realize that they or their parents will be suffocating to death because there aren’t enough ventilators, will they canonize him? I just don’t understand how anybody could think he is doing a good job, let alone 60% of the country. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41774 "2020-03-25T04:10:02Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > What am I missing? 60% of Americans approve of his handling of this crisis. He is up among Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I can’t blame it all on his rabid base. Not only do we get a pandemic and a depression but apparently it will also guarantee his reelection.Not only that but the pandemic is going to hit worse in urban areas which means it will destroy the liberal base. When people realize that they or their parents will be suffocating to death because there aren’t enough ventilators, will they canonize him? I just don’t understand how anybody could think he is doing a good job, let alone 60% of the country. Cuz the really bad shit hasn’t hit yet. And I suspect most people, who don’t really pay all that much attention to who’s doing what, attribute what’s happening as a result of their governor or mayor to the president. They likely think these schools being shut down, and restaurants being shut down, and gatherings being shut down, are Trump’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41775 "2020-03-25T04:19:02Z")
“It would have been a lot worse without me in charge. I handled it perfectly.” - Trump’s successful re-election slogan. “Everything I do is a success. That’s why I’m so successful!” - Trump backing up his slogan. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41776 "2020-03-25T07:08:40Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > What am I missing? 60% of Americans approve of his handling of this crisis. He is up among Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I can’t blame it all on his rabid base. Not only do we get a pandemic and a depression but apparently it will also guarantee his reelection.Not only that but the pandemic is going to hit worse in urban areas which means it will destroy the liberal base. When people realize that they or their parents will be suffocating to death because there aren’t enough ventilators, will they canonize him? I just don’t understand how anybody could think he is doing a good job, let alone 60% of the country. I have nothing to add, and just want to +1 it. In terms of specific things trump has done, said and plans to do, every fucking thing has been wrong and self-serving. As usual, he’s put people’s lives to the back of his mind (if they have any place at all), and his own self-image at the front, perhaps even more blatantly than usual. What more does he need to do to look incompetent? It’s a million miles from the kind of decisive leadership and hopeful, community-inspiring messages a nation needs at a time like this. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41777 "2020-03-25T09:08:41Z")
Thy think he’s doing a good job because they WANT him to be doing a good job, as the alternative is too horrible to contemplate. It’s normal human psychology. The good thing is, it wears off. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41778 "2020-03-25T09:39:42Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Latest Gallup poll has Trump matching his highest job approval rating. [People are fucking idiots](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489285-gallup-trump-job-approval-rating-matches-all-time-high) This is predictable and hasn’t anything to do with Trump. People tend to flock towards the Father Of The Nation when they’re scared and don’t know what to do - someone doing them to do a thing, anything is reassuring. Every big crisis produces a bump in presidential approval. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41779 "2020-03-25T12:00:39Z")
And not only that, but this big crisis _still_ can’t get the guy over 50%. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41780 "2020-03-25T12:15:36Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > And not only that, but this big crisis _still_ can’t get the guy over 50%. The bad news is, he probably only needs 45% to win re-election, and the socialist who refuses to go away and keeps banging his drum about what this country _really_ needs during a time of crisis will only divide the opposition that much more. You can’t necessarily look at past metrics to gauge Trump’s chances going forward. Trump won with historically low favorability ratings - in fact they were even lower than the opponent he defeated to win the presidency. And it’s rare to have a president with an approval rating over 60% anymore, even when there’s relative peace and prosperity. Trump could win re-election with just 42-44% if he can spread out the vote in just the right places, and suppress the vote in others. They’ll employ a county-by-county approach, just like they did last time. The way to ensure Trump loses - probably the only way - is to let him fuck up so monumentally that the country is enraged. That is the only way to ensure this human scourge called the republican party is vanquished. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41781 "2020-03-25T14:42:20Z")
Keep in mind that Trump has had the microphone all to himself. Sure, Andrew Cuomo is pushing back, but that’s not the same as a single Democratic response. Shoot, even the nightly comedy shows are off the air. Things might be different when the campaign starts and Biden is reminding everyone every day about Trump’s incompetent handling of the crisis. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41782 "2020-03-25T14:53:36Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The good thing is, it wears off. Unfortunately the wearing off involves a lot of dead people, to say nothing of a tanked economy. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41783 "2020-03-25T15:04:08Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Unfortunately the wearing off involves a lot of dead people, to say nothing of a tanked economy. That is happening anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41784 "2020-03-25T18:13:36Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > He’ll stick with what’s working: “This would have been a lot worse without me.” Sort of reminds me of the CEOs of the big financial institutions during the sub-prime mortgage crisis. “Of course, I deserve a huge bonus! Without me at the helm this would have been soooo much worse.” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41785 "2020-03-25T18:38:54Z")
[from Seattle NPR station KUOW](https://deadline.com/2020/03/coronavirus-donald-trump-nor-station-kuow-1202892198/): **… we will not be airing the (WhiteHouse) briefings live due to a pattern of false or misleading information provided that cannot be fact checked in real time** Hopefully this will be the start of a trend. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2088) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2090)