# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2097
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41926 "2020-03-28T02:12:46Z")
I’m starting to think Trump is leaning on the Federal government to NOT send aid to any state with a Democratic governor if he can possibly get away with it. He doesn’t even give the Governor Whitmer the courtesy of a name, to him she’s “that woman in Michigan”. WTF? He’s been caught on video saying that he’s told Pence not to talk to the governor of Washington. Holy fuck were fucked. This is the PotUS basically saying that if he doesn’t like the governor of a state he’ll leave the people of that state to live or die on their own. They should take those reefers that will shortly be piled with corpses in New York and Chicago and all the other cities and drive them down to DC to park on Pennsylvania Avenue with banners on the side saying “Trump killed these people”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41927 "2020-03-28T02:19:16Z")
Remember, **Broomstick** : > [@Donald Trump](#): > > There was no quid pro quo. :rolleyes: Everything is a quid pro quo with this guy. Everything. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41928 "2020-03-28T02:33:11Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Remember, **Broomstick** : > :rolleyes: > > Everything is a quid pro quo with this guy. Everything. But surely you can admit that, for him, there is no QED. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41929 "2020-03-28T03:09:05Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > “Emergency due to lethal pandemic”? The act mentions “lethal pandemic”? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41930 "2020-03-28T03:24:46Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, I have to eat my words now. GM has been ordered to make ventilators under the act. > > Trump did a 180 once he figured out nobody was listening to him on that particular bit of bullshit he was spouting. And GM said, “But, we are.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41931 "2020-03-28T03:58:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But surely you can admit that, for him, there is no QED. To be fair, almost no one (but me) remembers that show. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41932 "2020-03-28T13:43:56Z")
While the line item veto is not currently allowed, apparently an exception has been made for the Trump administration. In his signing statement, Trump has decided [he can ignore](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-congress-coronavirus-relief-oversight-152560) the parts of the stimulus bill involving oversight that he doesn’t like. I would say this is obviously illegal, and a president won’t get away with it, but we all know that he will. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41933 "2020-03-28T13:50:43Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The act mentions “lethal pandemic”? Damn, man. Reading your attempts at clever rhetoric is like watching a nine-year-old’s attempts at performing a magic trick they read about. I’ll tell you what I tell them: go practice in front of a mirror until you’ve got the hang of it, and then go show it to your mom or dad and get feedback, and only perform it for other people once you’ve gotten the hang of it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41934 "2020-03-28T14:19:27Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > While the line item veto is not currently allowed, apparently an exception has been made for the Trump administration. In his signing statement, Trump has decided [he can ignore](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-congress-coronavirus-relief-oversight-152560) the parts of the stimulus bill involving oversight that he doesn’t like. I would say this is obviously illegal, and a president won’t get away with it, but we all know that he will. > [@](#): > > “These provisions are impermissible forms of congressional aggrandizement with respect to the execution of the laws,” Trump says in the statement. That’s a sentence written by Donald Trump, for sure. Can’t you just hear his voice in your head, flawlessly articulating every word? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41935 "2020-03-28T14:42:39Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Is there a term for when the government tells businesses what they should produce? Stalinism. There. During WWII, Detroit stopped producing cars for 3 years and turned out nothing but tanks and planes. I’m OK with this. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41936 "2020-03-28T14:55:56Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > “These provisions are impermissible forms of congressional aggrandizement with respect to the execution of the laws,” Trump says in the statement. > > That’s a sentence written by Donald Trump, for sure. Can’t you just hear his voice in your head, flawlessly articulating every word? Somebody should tell him he has almost plagiarized his predecessor - On March 11, 2009, Obama issued his first signing statement, attached to the omnibus spending bill for the second half of the 2009 fiscal year. > [@President Barack Obama](#): > > These are impermissible forms of legislative aggrandizement in the execution of the laws other than by enactment of statutes. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41937 "2020-03-28T15:40:59Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I’m starting to think Trump is leaning on the Federal government to NOT send aid to any state with a Democratic governor if he can possibly get away with it. He doesn’t even give the Governor Whitmer the courtesy of a name, to him she’s “that woman in Michigan”. WTF? He’s been caught on video saying that he’s told Pence not to talk to the governor of Washington. > > Holy fuck were fucked. > > This is the PotUS basically saying that if he doesn’t like the governor of a state he’ll leave the people of that state to live or die on their own. > > They should take those reefers that will shortly be piled with corpses in New York and Chicago and all the other cities and drive them down to DC to park on Pennsylvania Avenue with banners on the side saying “Trump killed these people”. Michigan was a swing state in 2016, one that was critical to his election. His telling the state basically “fuck you, go die” is not going to help him there come Niovember. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41938 "2020-03-28T16:10:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > To be fair, almost no one (but me) remembers that show. > > 😛 Oh I remember. If only it would come out on DVD. I am forced to watch poor quality youtubes. The eyebrows of science! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41939 "2020-03-28T16:23:08Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Somebody should tell him he has almost plagiarized his predecessor - On March 11, 2009, Obama issued his first signing statement, attached to the omnibus spending bill for the second half of the 2009 fiscal year. Isn’t there anti-plagerism software out there enabling teachers to compare their students’ essays with stuff already on the web? If not it should be pretty simple to code it – it only needs to work on a 3rd grade level. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41940 "2020-03-28T16:28:54Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I’m starting to think Trump is leaning on the Federal government to NOT send aid to any state with a Democratic governor if he can possibly get away with it. He doesn’t even give the Governor Whitmer the courtesy of a name, to him she’s “that woman in Michigan”. WTF? He’s been caught on video saying that he’s told Pence not to talk to the governor of Washington. > > \<…\> There is at least one report of suppliers being instructed not to sell to Michigan. Unconfirmed and anecdotal, but entirely in keeping with the malAdministration’s approach. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > While the line item veto is not currently allowed, apparently an exception has been made for the Trump administration. In his signing statement, Trump has decided [he can ignore](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/trump-congress-coronavirus-relief-oversight-152560) the parts of the stimulus bill involving oversight that he doesn’t like. I would say this is obviously illegal, and a president won’t get away with it, but we all know that he will. In separate interviews last night, Speaker Pelosi and Rep Katie Porter — who has already acquired a reputation for her ability to nail CEO and lickspittle asses to the wall — begged to differ. Of course CFSG will argue that Congress has no oversight power, and given the current makeup of the Supreme Court he may get away with it; still, they won’t go gentle into that bad night. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41941 "2020-03-28T17:42:14Z")
With the orange makeup and the economic collapse, we can now officially rebrand Trump as (•\_•) ( •\_•)\>⌐■-■ (⌐■\_■) … **Sherbert Hoover** ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41942 "2020-03-28T18:02:53Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > In separate interviews last night, Speaker Pelosi and Rep Katie Porter — who has already acquired a reputation for her ability to nail CEO and lickspittle asses to the wall — begged to differ. Of course CFSG will argue that Congress has no oversight power, and given the current makeup of the Supreme Court he may get away with it; still, they won’t go gentle into that bad night. The president exerted “absolute privilege” and they went gently into that good night about it. I have zero doubt that Trump will get his way. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41943 "2020-03-28T18:04:31Z")
What’s worrying me lately is what appears to be a trend of pitting rural America against city folks. That “county by county” thing, for instance. As in decent and respectable folks are going to pay for a bunch of useless slobs in New York. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41944 "2020-03-28T18:17:12Z")
Gavin Newsom was bending over backwards to kiss Individual 1’s ass yesterday. The way he’s treating Washington and Michigan explains why. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41945 "2020-03-28T18:25:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Gavin Newsom was bending over backwards to kiss Individual 1’s ass yesterday. The way he’s treating Washington and Michigan explains why. It went so well for Gov. Cuomo when he tried to be gracious to Trump. Lasted for all of three and a half minutes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2096) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2098)