# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41986 "2020-03-30T00:27:45Z")

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Anyone watching the briefing can tell me why he was refusing to answer those two reporters

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41987 "2020-03-30T00:30:33Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> The mask thing is insane. To accuse New York of using too many masks when they are reusing disposable masks shows no understanding at all. Normally you would only use an N95 mask for a very small proportion of patients with diseases like tuberculosis. Now they are needed for many patients so the need skyrockets. Now he is trying to take credit for every positive thing. He is taking full credit for the Army Corps of Engineers who are incidentally doing an awesome job but not doing the work themselves but instead offering guidance and blueprints for converting convention centers and other facilities into hospitals.

Exactly  
A N95 mask is used if there’s a chance of aerosol contamination, like if you have to intubate someone to put them on a ventilator. Shockingly, there seems to be a need to do that more than normally. Once it’s been used for that it needs to be discarded. Reusing it puts the wearer at risk.  
Accusing NYC healthcare workers of selling them out the back door of their hospitals is so incredibly offensive I can’t even find words.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41988 "2020-03-30T01:01:51Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> Accusing NYC healthcare workers of selling them out the back door of their hospitals is so incredibly offensive I can’t even find words.

Projection.

This is what Donald J. Trump would do if he was a healthcare worker in New York. Because he’s a sociopathic piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41989 "2020-03-30T01:21:40Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> Accusing NYC healthcare workers of selling them out the back door of their hospitals is so incredibly offensive I can’t even find words.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Projection.
> 
> This is what Donald J. Trump would do if he was a healthcare worker in New York. Because he’s a sociopathic piece of shit.

Strangely enough, he _didn’t_ demand payment. Still incredibly stupid.  
[The US Sent Tons of Medical Supplies to China Even as Senators Warned of Virus Threat Here](https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/03/the-us-sent-tons-of-medical-supplies-to-china-even-as-senators-warned-of-virus-threat-here/)

> [@](#):
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> The United States government sent nearly 17.8 tons of donated medical supplies to China—including masks and respirators—almost three weeks after the first case of the coronavirus was reported in the state of Washington.
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> In a press release from the State Department dated Feb. 7, the agency announced it was prepared to spend up to $100 million to assist China as the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths continued to rise there.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41990 "2020-03-30T01:42:56Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Perhaps the best metaphor about the current situation in the USA (And England):
> 
> [FARK.com: (10761147) Daily Coronavirus Task Force briefing set for 5 PM today...I mean 5:45 PM...make that 6:17 PM...um, wait (YouTube feed updated)](https://www.fark.com/comments/10761147/126333766#c126333766)
> 
> Protester with a sign:
> 
> "How often did he save everyone on Gilligan’s island?
> 
> The Millionare: **NEVER**
> 
> The Professor: **In pretty much every episode!**"

Clever.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41991 "2020-03-30T04:56:23Z")

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That piece of crap the Republican party foisted upon us (to our doom, apparently, now) just [cannot shut the fuck up](http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/30/WS5e81243da310128217282d23.html).

> [@](#):
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> US President Donald Trump said Sunday that the federal government’s current guidelines for social distancing would remain in place until at least April 30, overriding an earlier suggestion that the measures might be lifted by Easter (April 12).
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> Trump predicted that the peak of fatalities from the outbreak would come in “about two weeks”.
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> “We can expect that by June 1, we will be well on our way to recovery — we think by June 1. A lot of great things will be happening,” he said.

What great things, you malignant fester? You’re the one who wanted to “open the country by Easter”. Dollars to donuts you don’t remember mouthing off and saying that. And if you think that just two months from now, the United States will be “well on its way to recovery”, you’re more insane than I already thought you are. China’s been dealing with this for just over three months and is not “well on its way to recovery”. Communities are blocked off so only residents can enter after they get their temperature checked to enter any store, including of course grocery stores. Many businesses are still closed; some have gone bankrupt already. Many places are requiring people to upload their phone’s GPS data to ensure they have been in the city longer than the 14-day quarantine (I just had to do that yesterday on my way into a grocery store). Not only has China banned foreign nationals from entering the country, [Beijing tightens outbound travel as pandemic worsens overseas](http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/29/WS5e804d89a310128217282c67.html).

And what’s your [new metric on determining if you’re doing a good job](http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/30/WS5e81243da310128217282d23.html)?

[qoute]Trump said that if the US death toll is held to 100,000, “we all together have done a very good job”.  
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That’s **THREE TIMES** the number of deaths world-wide thus far from this pandemic.

You piece of shit.

I can’t wait to see you in jail.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41992 "2020-03-30T06:04:14Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I thought Snake was dead.

Perhaps, but [Randy is not](https://youtu.be/k-LTRwZb35A), though he might have made Messieurs Gilbert and Sullivan wish they had never been born.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41993 "2020-03-30T06:20:53Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be awesome if Cuomo’s press conferences got higher ratings than Trump’s? His head would explode.

Right now Trump is very careful about holding his press conferences during the evening news hour–at a time when a large percentage of people are naturally are already watching the news. That way, the news shows that people actually want to watch are forced to switch the Trump, which forces more people to watch him than normally would.

The only thing the Trump cares about right now is his image. He doesn’t give a shit about the pandemic. All that matters to him is putting on a bullshit fantasy show where he can claim that he’s the hero in all this.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41994 "2020-03-30T10:09:30Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> The only thing the Trump cares about right now is his image. He doesn’t give a shit about the pandemic. All that matters to him is putting on a bullshit fantasy show where he can claim that he’s the hero in all this.

He’s already set the goalposts for having done a “great job” at 100K dead. Don’t sprain your arm patting yourself on the back, Donny.

Meanwhile, is Pence’s social distancing plan now being called “45 days to slow the spread”? Just curious.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41995 "2020-03-30T10:19:45Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> While states like Maine and Colorado got a small fraction of the requested supplies, Florida received [300% of what they asked fo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/desperate-for-medical-equipment-states-encounter-a-beleaguered-national-stockpile/2020/03/28/1f4f9a0a-6f82-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html)r.  
> \*  
> “Florida has been an exception in its dealings with the stockpile: The state submitted a request on March 11 for 430,000 surgical masks, 180,000 N95 respirators, 82,000 face shields and 238,000 gloves, among other supplies — and received a shipment with everything three days later, according to figures from the state’s Division of Emergency Management. It received an identical shipment on March 23, according to the division, and is awaiting a third.”\*

Well, I guess that’s proof that the Feds are playing favorites under Trump’s direction. He’s engaged in not ethnic cleansing so much as political cleansing and he doesn’t care if it kills people.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41996 "2020-03-30T10:27:58Z")

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If Trump is responsible for certain states receiving less aid than they otherwise could be getting, then he is allowing people to die to score political points. To put it diplomatically. But if this is happening, how can the states’ requests go through Trump peronally? Don’t we have departments for that? How can Trump be responsible for deciding who gets what? Sounds like a really big flaw in the system.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41997 "2020-03-30T10:47:47Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> he doesn’t care if it kills people.

He was exactly like that with his rhetoric during the campaign and after he got elected. This is not new for that scoundrel.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41998 "2020-03-30T12:23:58Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> If Trump is responsible for certain states receiving less aid than they otherwise could be getting, then he is allowing people to die to score political points. To put it diplomatically. But if this is happening, how can the states’ requests go through Trump peronally? Don’t we have departments for that? How can Trump be responsible for deciding who gets what? Sounds like a really big flaw in the system.

Do you work for someone? Do you have a feel for how they want things done, or do you ask them about every item that comes across your desk?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/41999 "2020-03-30T13:15:47Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> Right now Trump is very careful about holding his press conferences during the evening news hour–at a time when a large percentage of people are naturally are already watching the news. **That way, the news shows that people actually want to watch are forced to switch the Trump, which forces more people to watch him than normally would.**
> 
> …

The stations are not FORCED to switch to trump. All TV and radio news should stop covering his briefings as some journalists have suggested. NPR has stopped carrying them.

My bold.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42000 "2020-03-30T13:30:27Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Trump said that if the US death toll is held to 100,000, “we all together have done a very good job”.
> 
> That’s **THREE TIMES** the number of deaths world-wide thus far from this pandemic.

Allow me to quote **The Messiah** from 23 Oct, 2014:

> [@Donald J. Trump](#):
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> [If this doctor, who so recklessly flew into New York from West Africa,has Ebola,then Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/525431218910027776?lang=en)

In 2014 there were eleven cases of ebola in the United States. Eleven. Two people died. Two.

In another thread, **Snowboarder Bo** posted that there were (as of last night) **142,178 confirmed coronavirus infections in the U.S., and 2,484 have died.**

And yet, **The Messiah** insists he’s doing a great job.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42001 "2020-03-30T13:31:59Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> NPR has stopped carrying them.

This isn’t true, is it? For the Seattle affiliate, sure, but this isn’t a general policy across all NPR stations.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42002 "2020-03-30T13:32:13Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderator]  
> Let’s not advocate assassinating the president on this board, okay?
> 
> No warning issued.  
> [/Moderator]

May we assume that it is permissible to wish him dead of natural causes? I’m kind enough to wish a quick and painless cardiac arrest rather than from explosive diarrhea.  
Anyway, El Bozo implies that medical staff are selling protection equipment out the back door. I firmly believe that goes against their ethics and humanity, moreover they’re too busy and exhausted after double shifts of trying to keep people alive. New York gets questioned about why they need so much stuff while Florida gets triple what they asked for. Now he’s going to claim that \<100,000 deaths will indicate a great job by him. At least he’s giving us a yardstick to measure his failure.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42003 "2020-03-30T14:04:28Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Perhaps the best metaphor about the current situation in the USA (And England):
> 
> [FARK.com: (10761147) Daily Coronavirus Task Force briefing set for 5 PM today...I mean 5:45 PM...make that 6:17 PM...um, wait (YouTube feed updated)](https://www.fark.com/comments/10761147/126333766#c126333766)
> 
> Protester with a sign:
> 
> "How often did he save everyone on Gilligan’s island?
> 
> The Millionare: **NEVER**
> 
> The Professor: **In pretty much every episode!**"

Can someone explain this to me? I don’t get it.

I grew up with Gilligan’s Island and understand the on-its-face meaning, but don’t get any relevance to the current situation.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42004 "2020-03-30T14:11:59Z")

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“We” aren’t listening to the scientific experts but to a bloviating “billionaire” in the White House.

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42005 "2020-03-30T14:18:08Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> Can someone explain this to me? I don’t get it.
> 
> I grew up with Gilligan’s Island and understand the on-its-face meaning, but don’t get any relevance to the current situation.
> 
> Thanks!

“Don’t listen to the bloviating rich idiot; listen to the educated experts.”

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