# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2101
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42006 "2020-03-30T14:20:39Z")
I don’t think history is going to look too kindly on the president who oversaw the greatest number of avoidable deaths of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42007 "2020-03-30T14:34:26Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I don’t think history is going to look too kindly on the president who oversaw the greatest number of avoidable deaths of Americans. Most people look kindly upon Obama, and **TWO** people died of ebola on his watch! Why shouldn’t history look kindly on Trump? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42008 "2020-03-30T14:37:27Z")
I’m sure the Texas State Board of Education will pull no punches in their future textbooks. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42009 "2020-03-30T14:40:13Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Good. Did you see how crowded together they were? And he handed over pens directly. > > \*Not \*the behaviour we want to see modeled. Plus, maybe we’ll get lucky … That’s what I’m hopin’… ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42010 "2020-03-30T14:41:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Most people look kindly upon Obama, and **TWO** people died of ebola on his watch! Why shouldn’t history look kindly on Trump? 😕 Exactly! Even if we only get to 100,000, it’s proof positive Trump is 50,000 times better than Obama. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42011 "2020-03-30T14:44:51Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I don’t think history is going to look too kindly on the president who oversaw the greatest number of avoidable deaths of Americans. But…but…but…BENGHAZI! The four most important people in the history of the universe died on Obama’s watch while he and Hillary watched it live and laughed! The MAGAbots will spin it somehow in their favor. Facts just don’t matter any more- if they don’t like real facts they make up their own. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42012 "2020-03-30T14:52:58Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > May we assume that it is permissible to wish him dead of natural causes? I’m kind enough to wish a quick and painless cardiac arrest rather than from explosive diarrhea. You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din, but I suppose at this point I’d settle. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42013 "2020-03-30T14:59:05Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > This isn’t true, is it? For the Seattle affiliate, sure, but this isn’t a general policy across all NPR stations. You’re right. Sorry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42014 "2020-03-30T17:21:45Z")
Here’s a thought: Imagine Obama is president and one American dies of Covid-19. One hospital says they don’t have enough masks. Hannity, Carlson, Pirro et al would be going Super Saiyan on how our far too liberal president has sacrificed americans’…life. And Trump, he would be giving Obama credit for a job well done. He’d be thankful for all the lives saved and…sorry I can’t continue typing that, I’m laughing too much. 😃 Trump would have acted like a jackass and a bully, with zero understanding of the actual situation, natch. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42015 "2020-03-30T17:34:30Z")
Question: If Trump continues to hold up aid to, say MI and NY, while giving FL more than it requested, can the states sue him? Is there some law that covers how aid in an emergency should be dispensed? Doesn’t Congress have a say in how aid is distributed? Does his remark about a “two-way street” suggest extortion or duress in dispensing such aid? I’d love to see the Supreme Court come down on him for this (assuming five conservative judges would be willing to do so). His administration has been sued by the states for other matters; hoping this latest clusterfuck also qualifies as lawsuit-eligible. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42016 "2020-03-30T18:11:15Z")
Individual 1 - we need closer ties with Russia and need to separate ourselves from Germany because Russia was our ally during World War II and Germany was the enemy. > **[Trump suggests US should treat Germany as an enemy because of World War II](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suggests-us-treat-germany-134200761.html)** > > Donald Trump is suggesting the United States should treat Germany more like an enemy because the two countries were adversaries in World War II as the president again lobbied for closer US-Russian relations.If he turns the off-the-cuff remark into US... ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42017 "2020-03-30T18:47:19Z")
Someone should whisper in his ear that the British can’t be trusted; they invaded 208 years ago and burned down the White House. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42018 "2020-03-30T18:51:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 - we need closer ties with Russia and need to separate ourselves from Germany because Russia was our ally during World War II and Germany was the enemy. > [Trump suggests US should treat Germany as an enemy because of World War II](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suggests-us-treat-germany-134200761.html) Wow, looks like someone finally finished his 3rd grade history homework. Impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42019 "2020-03-30T18:54:33Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > **Anyway, El Bozo implies that medical staff are selling protection equipment out the back door. I firmly believe that goes against their ethics and humanity, moreover they’re too busy and exhausted after double shifts of trying to keep people alive.** New York gets questioned about why they need so much stuff while Florida gets triple what they asked for. Now he’s going to claim that \<100,000 deaths will indicate a great job by him. At least he’s giving us a yardstick to measure his failure. This is an outrageous accusation and a serious misstep by this asshole. Anyone in this country with a relative in the medical field will be furious at this sort of slander. Hell, anyone who has had a nurse save their ass will be furious. Wrong tactic, fuckwad, and it will bite you in the ass. Hard. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42020 "2020-03-30T19:13:21Z")
He could probably shoot a nurse on 5th Avenue and the trumpists would just come up with a reason it was okay for him to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42021 "2020-03-30T19:20:05Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > He could probably shoot a nurse on 5th Avenue and the trumpists would just come up with a reason it was okay for him to do that. Because the nurse was stealing masks and ventilators and selling them out the back door. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42022 "2020-03-30T19:24:23Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Wow, looks like someone finally finished his 3rd grade history homework. Impressive. Nah, Putin told him that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42023 "2020-03-30T19:26:53Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > This is an outrageous accusation and a serious misstep by this asshole. Anyone in this country with a relative in the medical field will be furious at this sort of slander. … IF they ever hear about it. Is FOX covering this? Has FOX reported that trump is saying this? Then it never happened. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42024 "2020-03-30T19:27:52Z")
Germany tossed out its dictator. That idea makes him uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42025 "2020-03-30T20:43:51Z")
> [@Washington Post](#): > > Trump has repeatedly suggested that there is somehow something suspect about New York’s requests in particular. Perhaps he sincerely thinks there is, given the way in which some enrichment schemes [i.e.: his own] in the city have historically worked. But his insistence to Fox News’s Sean Hannity that New York was requesting more ventilators than it needed last week – as well as his arguments on Fox on Monday that the state did not buy ventilators that were available when they were for sale in 2015 (and when the coronavirus at the center of the pandemic likely did not exist), that the state is not distributing ventilators (because it’s waiting to see where they’re needed) and that New York hospitals are allowing masks to be stolen by the thousands – all have a main focus: shifting blame away from himself and onto Cuomo and others. [cite](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/30/trump-brings-his-tear-down-your-opponents-politics-coronavirus-fight/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2102)