# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2117
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42326 "2020-04-07T16:38:45Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > One of the news stories I listened to yesterday said specifically the 1MC was used. That it was the specific term and not just ‘PA’ like most of the other outlets used leads me to believe the writers knew what they were talking about and the [del]asshole[/del] ‘acting’ SecNav was onboard. > > I was feeling sorry for whoever it is that takes command. Stepping into a shitstorm not of their making. Recall that Acting Secretary Modley is in that job because the prior Navy Secretary resigned a few months ago in protest over Trump’s meddling in the Navy Seal war crimes case. Modley’s take-away apparently was: do whatever it takes to make Trump happy. Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42327 "2020-04-07T16:40:29Z")
Saw a headline (no link yet, sorry) that Trump is accusing the DHH watchdog of fabricating false paperwork regarding the outbreak. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42328 "2020-04-07T16:50:13Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Saw a headline (no link yet, sorry) that Trump is accusing the DHH watchdog of fabricating false paperwork regarding the outbreak. And right on cue: [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds-upending-oversight-panel-171943](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds-upending-oversight-panel-171943) > [@](#): > > Trump removes independent watchdog for coronavirus funds, upending oversight panel > > The move comes as Trump makes a broad push against inspectors general scrutinizing his actions. :rolleyes: I keep telling you all: there will be no oversight, no constitutional intervention. It is the people themselves who will have to fix this, and until enough people feel the consequences of Trump’s behavior, nothing will change. I am right. Everyone knows it. They just don’t want to agree with me. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42329 "2020-04-07T17:10:17Z")
^There you have it, folks. The United States of America is now officially _the_ orange republic. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42330 "2020-04-07T17:40:50Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Recall that Acting Secretary Modley is in that job because the prior Navy Secretary resigned a few months ago in protest over Trump’s meddling in the Navy Seal war crimes case. > > Modley’s take-away apparently was: do whatever it takes to make Trump happy. Well, he screwed that pooch, didn’t he? I don’t think Trump is happy about that scolding to the ship’s crew getting loose on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42331 "2020-04-07T17:42:32Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > :rolleyes: I keep telling you all: there will be no oversight, no constitutional intervention. It is the people themselves who will have to fix this, and until enough people feel the consequences of Trump’s behavior, nothing will change. > > I am right. Everyone knows it. They just don’t want to agree with me. I agree with you to the extent I think that yes, this is going to have to be fixed by the people… I’m just really, really dreading what that’s going to be like and not only the primary damage that will cause to the nation but also the amount of side-effect carnage that might be involved. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42332 "2020-04-07T18:03:24Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Modley’s take-away apparently was: do whatever it takes to make Trump happy. And now he’s learning the second part of that; when you do what Trump wanted and it ends up being a mistake, you take the blame. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42333 "2020-04-07T18:19:36Z")
The Small Business Administration is offering loans to churches to pay their utilities and their pastors’ salaries. > **[Another Break From The Past: Government Will Help Churches Pay Pastor Salaries](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/06/828462517/another-break-from-the-past-government-will-help-churches-pay-pastor-salaries)** > > The Small Business Administration says current regulations "impermissibly" bar loans to religious institutions. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42334 "2020-04-07T18:22:26Z")
Individual 1 claims that a Health and Human Services report is a political plot. > **[Trump Breaks Down And Claims HHS Report Showing His Coronavirus Failure Is A...](https://www.politicususa.com/2020/04/06/trump-breaks-down-and-claims-hhs-report-showing-his-coronavirus-failure-is-a-political-plot.html)** > > Trump claimed that an HHS IG report revealing that hospitals still lack testing and supplies is wrong and a political plot to get him. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42335 "2020-04-07T18:33:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > From that link: “Questions about his motives”?? There are NEVER any questions about his motives. MONEY! That rotten sonufabitch. Absolutely. But I’d say there’s a sprig of laziness in there too. As we’ve seen, a headline written with a sharpie is the maximum that Trump can take in. No data, no research, no nuance. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic; when have we ever seen him learn new specific facts and demonstrate an understanding of them? So I think, even without any grift on the side, something that sounds like a cure or whatever…cool, sorted. Now…where did I put my golf clubs? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42336 "2020-04-07T19:55:52Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I agree with you to the extent I think that yes, this is going to have to be fixed by the people… I’m just really, really dreading what that’s going to be like and not only the primary damage that will cause to the nation but also the amount of side-effect carnage that might be involved. Yeah, well, too bad. The carnage is inevitable. There is no way to avoid it at this point. When people look the other way at all of his other crimes, they give him a free pass on anything. He has no reason not to be corrupt. We’ve been rewarding his corruption all along, and he will not only continue to corrupt, but he will take it to the next level and start weaponizing the government against his critics. Calling your congressman won’t stop him. This is precisely why I have been saying that we probably need some good carnage. No, it’s not a pleasant thought. No, it’s not pleasant to write. No, I know it’s not pleasant to read. Yes, it goes against our instincts for humanity, but this is the way it is. I don’t live in the world of the way it should be; I live in the world of the way it is. This is our world now. Don’t get mad at me for writing unpleasant truths; get mad at the millions of people who don’t care to live in a fact-based world and get especially mad at those who _know_ that Trump is corrupt and incompetent but who nevertheless embrace him as the price they have to pay to keep _their_ America. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42337 "2020-04-07T20:05:51Z")
Modly resigns. > **[Acting Navy Secretary Modly resigns](https://taskandpurpose.com/news/modly-fired/)** > > Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly resigned on Tuesday after berating thousands of sailors in Guam and later doubling down on his remarks. (I had to chuckle that the URL says “fired”) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42338 "2020-04-07T20:18:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Modly resigns. > [Acting Navy Secretary Modly Resigns After Calling Capt. Crozier 'Stupid'](https://taskandpurpose.com/news/modly-fired) > (I had to chuckle that the URL says “fired”) Tried to channel his inner Trump and still got shit-canned. Must by some mighty damn strong kool aid these fuckers are drinking to do his bidding and end up getting stiffed anyway. I wonder when it finally dawns on the average soldier that Trump is not a military guy and likely thinks of the department of defense as just another way to fund his corrupt criminal business enterprise and enrich himself - just how he views pretty much every other agency. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42339 "2020-04-07T20:21:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I am right. Everyone knows it. They just don’t want to agree with me. You don’t see that a huge part of why you get on everybody’s nerves is your smug self-satisfaction. It can make a reader turn punchy, though your readers here would not follow through on it. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42340 "2020-04-07T21:29:19Z")
Trump has had himself quite a week, hasn’t he? In addition to his ongoing bungling of the coronavirus response, he’s: Fired the Inspector General who kicked off the Ukraine investigation Fired the Inspector General who would have overseen the $2T CV aid package distribution Used his daily “briefings” to berate reporters who asked him tough questions without first prefacing it with “You’re doing a great job!” Blocked Dr Fauci from answering a question he (Trump) was tired of hearing Fired (through his toady) the captain of an aircraft carrier for going outside of the chain of command in asking for help with a CV outbreak onboard, and then Fired the toady. And I’ve probably missed some. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42341 "2020-04-07T21:30:13Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > You don’t see that a huge part of why you get on everybody’s nerves is your smug self-satisfaction. It can make a reader turn punchy, though your readers here would not follow through on it. Well, we can attribute that to MANY posters here. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42342 "2020-04-07T21:49:57Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > You don’t see that a huge part of why you get on everybody’s nerves is your smug self-satisfaction. It can make a reader turn punchy, though your readers here would not follow through on it. Fully aware of it, but they’re “punchy” when I’m not smug but simply saying things they’re not prepared to accept, like the fact that they’re watching their country turn into a kleptocratic authoritarian state, that it’s because dumb shit voters are letting it happen, and that something extraordinary will have to happen to these dumbshit voters to help them achieve enlightenment. I guess I’m the kid who has to point out that Santa Claus isn’t real, and people hate me for it. But it’s better that they know the truth now. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42343 "2020-04-07T21:52:52Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Trump has had himself quite a week, hasn’t he? In addition to his ongoing bungling of the coronavirus response, he’s: > > Fired the Inspector General who kicked off the Ukraine investigation > Fired the Inspector General who would have overseen the $2T CV aid package distribution > Used his daily “briefings” to berate reporters who asked him tough questions without first prefacing it with “You’re doing a great job!” > Blocked Dr Fauci from answering a question he (Trump) was tired of hearing > Fired (through his toady) the captain of an aircraft carrier for going outside of the chain of command in asking for help with a CV outbreak onboard, and then > Fired the toady. > > And I’ve probably missed some. Was it last week or yesterday that he did that thing of putting a question over to Pence and after Pence made noises for five minutes, said “that was a great answer, Mike has just spent five minutes talking without getting anywhere near your question!”? Dude doesn’t just fart, he yells “that was me!!!” in case anybody didn’t realize it. Usually the people who do that wear strange clothing and a ton of makeup… oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42344 "2020-04-07T22:07:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Was it last week or yesterday that he did that thing of putting a question over to Pence and after Pence made noises for five minutes, said “that was a great answer, Mike has just spent five minutes talking without getting anywhere near your question!”? > > Dude doesn’t just fart, he yells “that was me!!!” in case anybody didn’t realize it. Usually the people who do that wear strange clothing and a ton of makeup… oh wait… Two weeks. Two minutes. What difference does it make anymore. There are no consequences for any of the countless lies or unintentional damning truths that he tells on a daily basis. Listen to him now. He’s a mental deficient. He should be gagged and dragged away for the good of everyone concerned. But he won’t. Perfectly competent and otherwise intelligent people are powerless to stop a lunatic who has taken over the entire system of government, making checks and balances irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42345 "2020-04-07T22:08:21Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > You don’t see that a huge part of why you get on everybody’s nerves is your smug self-satisfaction. It can make a reader turn punchy, though your readers here would not follow through on it. I daresay a good chunk of posters have put the little fucker on ignore at this point. Half of the shit he says is just bleeding obvious and the other half is chicken little shit, some of it is smattered with some real over-the-top sociopathic fantasies, but nearly every damn thing he says is said with a pathetic need for validation. “You will see!” “I’m the smartest person here!” “You’re all sheep who are too scared to admit I’m the most correct person ever!!” He could be the smartest guy on Earth, he’s a nutjob who fits well on my ignore list. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2118)