# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2138
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42747 "2020-04-23T02:35:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Here are two of the top headlines on the AP right now: > > [Moving past ‘invisible enemy,’ Trump nudges nation to reopen](https://apnews.com/f56aa574c955855b8358cd45688520f6) > > [Trump ‘disagrees strongly’ with Georgia’s plan to reopen](https://apnews.com/c48371b1f44715bc9a73ec682319882e) > > :dubious: > > :rolleyes: > > What a shitshow this country is right now. I am deeply deeply skeptical that Trump has ever said anything admonishing to a Republican governor. Next time you see a commercial that says “we’re all in this together” consider that it should go on to say: “except Georgia, who says “fuck all y’all.” ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42748 "2020-04-23T02:53:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I am deeply deeply skeptical that Trump has ever said anything admonishing to a Republican governor. Trump was going after Larry Hogan of MD just the other day for getting testing kits from S Korea. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42749 "2020-04-23T03:40:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Here are two of the top headlines on the AP right now: > > [Moving past ‘invisible enemy,’ Trump nudges nation to reopen](https://apnews.com/f56aa574c955855b8358cd45688520f6) The only reason for that is because of his supporters (you know, morons) demanding that the nation not be closed down, to Hell with the danger, which they continue to believe is a hoax because he said it was way back when. > [@](#): > > [Trump ‘disagrees strongly’ with Georgia’s plan to reopen](https://apnews.com/c48371b1f44715bc9a73ec682319882e) Yeah. No doubt the plan didn’t include glowing praise of the jackass in the White House. > [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump was going after Larry Hogan of MD just the other day for getting testing kits from S Korea. I wonder if he went on a bizarre rant about South Korea “not paying enough” for US troops stationed there yet again, after he’d previously demanded they quintuple their contribution. And then he’s refused the deal his negotiating team had come to with South Korea’s team. Of course, [that had negative consequences](https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-military-furloughs-thousands-south-korean-workers), such as about half of the ROK civilian employees of the USFK being placed on unpaid furlough indefinitely when there’s a fucking pandemic so it’s not like they can go find other employment at the moment. And yet, that country is helping the United States out. Trump is no businessman, no negotiator, no clever politician. He’s just a son of a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42750 "2020-04-23T03:45:03Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump was going after Larry Hogan of MD just the other day for getting testing kits from S Korea. Larry Hogan and Tom Wolf ¶ might be the smartest governors in the country. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42751 "2020-04-23T04:00:49Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump was going after Larry Hogan of MD just the other day for getting testing kits from S Korea. You’re right, in that Trump is not driven by pure partisanship. As far as I can tell, his criteria for getting on his List of Approved Governors is: 1 Praise him 2 Move towards re-opening sooner rather than later (Trump’s #1 priority is the economy and he doesn’t give 2 shits who has to die) 3 Don’t push back on his supply-chain racket Maryland violated #3. But Georgia has done all of the above. So I think Trump is just throwing Kemp under the bus (publicly) to make it look like he actually cares about his 3-phase approach to normalcy. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42752 "2020-04-23T04:43:07Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Trump is no businessman, no negotiator, no clever politician. He’s just a son of a bitch. I think it was Colbert who just called Trump a waste of toilet paper. I’m definitely stealing that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42753 "2020-04-23T06:41:25Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I think it was Colbert who just called Trump a waste of toilet paper. > > I’m definitely stealing that. You have got to give us a link to that! ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42754 "2020-04-23T12:24:16Z")
Oops. [Record US Jobless Claims wipe out post-recession employment gains.](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/record-u-s-jobless-claims-wipe-out-post-great-recession-employment-gains-idUSKCN2250CS) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42755 "2020-04-23T12:48:43Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Is it for Medicine this time? > > We all know he was robbed of the Peace Prize. All he wants is a little peace in the world. \*A little piece of Greenland, a little piece of \*\*\* (Actually, for all his faults, Donny is hardly a land-grabbing international adventurer, so this wonderful song from _To Be or Not to Be_ doesn’t fit well, but I couldn’t resist.) ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42756 "2020-04-23T12:51:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 just barred DACA recipients from getting college aid. > [Trump administration bars DACA and undocumented students from billions in federal aid](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-bar-daca-undocumented-013000276.html) Uh, why would they qualify for ANY federal aid if they are here illegally? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42757 "2020-04-23T13:11:05Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Uh, why would they qualify for ANY federal aid if they are here illegally? Because they came here as very young children/infants. Do you seriously think they knew the law and had any control over coming here? They’re American in every sense except being citizens. DACA allows them to remain here legally as long as they meet certain conditions. They’re more deserving of college than rich families that falsify records so their worthless offspring can steal a space. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42758 "2020-04-23T13:21:55Z")
Amazing. The OrangeAnus (R - Impeached) spends weeks egging on states to reopen, and when a few states begin to comply (I’m looking at you, Georgia), The OrangeAnus (R - Impeached) back-pedals. Say, Governors of red states? Don’t think that Traitor Trump has your back: > **[Trump says he 'strongly' disagreed with move to reopen Georgia --...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/trump-pence-georgia-governor-brian-kemp/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence both called Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp on Tuesday night and expressed support and praise for the Republican's move to reopen businesses in his state starting Friday, a source familiar with the call... Sadly, Kemp is MY governor. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42759 "2020-04-23T13:24:36Z")
It’s not just DACA recipients. If you are a US citizen who is married to a foreign national without an SSN or TIN, [you don’t get the stimulus, either](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/u-citizens-married-immigrants-blocked-145343198.html). As many people have said, for Republicans the cruelty IS THE POINT. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42760 "2020-04-23T13:44:25Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Here are two of the top headlines on the AP right now: > > [Moving past ‘invisible enemy,’ Trump nudges nation to reopen](https://apnews.com/f56aa574c955855b8358cd45688520f6) > > [Trump ‘disagrees strongly’ with Georgia’s plan to reopen](https://apnews.com/c48371b1f44715bc9a73ec682319882e) > > :dubious: > > :rolleyes: > > What a shitshow this country is right now. But its the BEST shitshow! An incredible shitshow actually. Liberate Georgia…but not right away. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42761 "2020-04-23T13:59:59Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > It’s not just DACA recipients. If you are a US citizen who is married to a foreign national without an SSN or TIN, [you don’t get the stimulus, either](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/u-citizens-married-immigrants-blocked-145343198.html). You might want to check out [Post #42821 in this very thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22265191&postcount=42821). Oh, and the news as reported in the link in that post is that a TIN doesn’t cut it. > [@](#): > > As many people have said, for Republicans the cruelty IS THE POINT. What hateful pieces of shit they are. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42762 "2020-04-23T14:30:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Should we be on the lookout for incoming flights being boarded for inspection by federal agents asserting the power to seize shipments of PPE/testing supplies/ventilators? > > No, seriously, should we? Here’s an interesting article in TPM about a shipment of masks from China that the Feds attempted to confiscate, then backed off. [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-long-strange-trip-of-one-shipment-of-millions-of-kn95-masks](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-long-strange-trip-of-one-shipment-of-millions-of-kn95-masks) They also discuss this story a little more in depth on this week’s podcast. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42763 "2020-04-23T16:24:52Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If you need a little lift in the midst of all this madness, this will give it to you: ([Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=156&v=TkU1ob_lHCw&feature=emb_title)) > > Truly, worth the click. Damn, I just came here to post this. Awesome vid. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42764 "2020-04-23T16:28:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Thanks for that. Maybe it’s just the time of day or something, but: I teared up. > > I especially liked that most of the people could have passed for Trump voters, appearance-wise. It goes to show that we shouldn’t make assumptions. > > VoteHimAway! In case you didn’t notice, a lot of the “back up singers” were the Raging Grannies of Mendocino. Not all of us in our older years are fascists. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42765 "2020-04-23T18:02:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Trump is no businessman, no negotiator, no clever politician. He’s just a son of a bitch. _ **Sir!** _ I demand an apology! Not for me, but for the bitches that you have so gracelessly defamed across the world. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42766 "2020-04-23T18:59:30Z")
Look, I have maintained enough detachment that I can look at the global situation and concede that this situation is a disaster for every nation, no matter what kind of government they have. Yes, we could have done better here, less people could have died, but this was going to hit us no matter who was sitting in the Big Chair. All right. But then I look at this hydroxychlorolquine situation and my detachment dissolves into being pissed off. Trump owns a stake in Sanofi, the maker of the drug. He went on TV to promote it repeatedly, before any research had been done on it. Now some results are coming in, and it turns out More COVID patients die if you give them this drug compared to just leaving them alone. So, in the midst of a pandemic that I estimate will kill ~400k Americans before it is through, Trump took the opportunity to sell poisonous snake oil. I can forgive human imperfection, but God fucking damn it, that is downright evil :mad: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2139)