# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2139
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42767 "2020-04-23T19:24:29Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Yes, we could have done better here, **less people could have died** , but this was going to hit us no matter who was sitting in the Big Chair. > [@Daniel Tosh](#): > > My girlfriend says we’d have less arguments if I didn’t correct her all the time. I said “fewer”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42768 "2020-04-23T19:56:32Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Look, I have maintained enough detachment that I can look at the global situation and concede that this situation is a disaster for every nation, no matter what kind of government they have. Yes, we could have done better here, less people could have died, but this was going to hit us no matter who was sitting in the Big Chair. > > All right. But then I look at this hydroxychlorolquine situation and my detachment dissolves into being pissed off. Trump owns a stake in Sanofi, the maker of the drug. He went on TV to promote it repeatedly, before any research had been done on it. Now some results are coming in, and it turns out More COVID patients die if you give them this drug compared to just leaving them alone. > > So, in the midst of a pandemic that I estimate will kill ~400k Americans before it is through, Trump took the opportunity to sell poisonous snake oil. I can forgive human imperfection, but God fucking damn it, that is downright evil :mad: As I said somewhere, yeah, this would be HARD ENOUGH if the federal government were ON OUR SIDE and everyone was working together. But trump and his ilk are working for themselves and AGAINST the nation. Do I need to cite\* that Unca Mitch said that governors should let their states go bankrupt rather than expect “free money”? What does he think federal money IS FOR? I guess, like Jared, he believes the money is “ours,” meaning…? - [Ok, I will.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/mcconnell-takes-flak-after-suggesting-bankruptcy-for-states-rather-than-bailouts/2020/04/23/f70311fe-8560-11ea-a3eb-e9fc93160703_story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42769 "2020-04-23T20:17:02Z")
I meant to say “fewer”. I was misquoted. It is fake news that I use the word “less” in this context. Don’t listen to those libruls! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42770 "2020-04-23T21:15:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > … I guess, like Jared, he believes the money is “ours,” meaning…? Come on, now, **T L** , I know you speak yertle. He believes the money is “our’n”, which has a rather different meaning (which excludes “your’n”). ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42771 "2020-04-23T21:32:32Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If you need a little lift in the midst of all this madness, this will give it to you: ([Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=156&v=TkU1ob_lHCw&feature=emb_title)) > > Truly, worth the click. Thank you! That _was_ worth the click! ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42772 "2020-04-23T22:31:12Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Here’s an interesting article in TPM about a shipment of masks from China that the Feds attempted to confiscate, then backed off. > [EXCLUSIVE: The Long Strange Trip Of One Shipment Of Millions Of KN95 Masks - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-long-strange-trip-of-one-shipment-of-millions-of-kn95-masks) > > They also discuss this story a little more in depth on this week’s podcast. A quote from that story: > [@](#): > > “We already had a purchase order from Baystate hospital,” Loul told TPM. “They had a private jet they flew over because they had over 200 patients they were not doing surgeries on because they had no masks.” Baystate Medical is the regional center of excellence for all of Western MA. It’s where you go if you need specialized care, especially cardiac care and pediatric care. So those fucking fuckers delayed and possibly cost lives for critical surgeries. I personally know a number of people that over the years have had their lives saved at Baystate. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42773 "2020-04-24T00:09:16Z")
"_Can we kill it with light? Can we get light inside the body? How about disinfectant? What if we try injecting disinfectant, to really clean things out?_” Why does this man not have a PhD in mediciny stuff? Fuck I miss a president who used a lot less word output. Like, you know, who would listen and learn things. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42774 "2020-04-24T00:11:13Z")
In this evening’s coronavirus rally, Dickhead suggested that his team look into the efficacy of injecting disinfectant into the bodies of those with COVID-19 to clean out the lungs. > ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42775 "2020-04-24T00:17:45Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > In case you didn’t notice, a lot of the “back up singers” were the Raging Grannies of Mendocino. Not all of us in our older years are fascists. Indeed, that is important to remember! > [@eschereal](#): > > "_Can we kill it with light? Can we get light inside the body? How about disinfectant? What if we try injecting disinfectant, to really clean things out?_” > … > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In this evening’s coronavirus rally, Dickhead suggested that his team look into the efficacy of injecting disinfectant into the bodies of those with COVID-19 to clean out the lungs. > [https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253451487415619586?s=19](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253451487415619586?s=19) There are obviously-worrying things about a President suggesting that injecting people with disinfectant could be a good idea. One less-obvious thing about it, though: **that Trump has clearly been assured that no matter what votes get cast in November, he will remain President** (i.e. “safe from prosecution”). Because what _else_ could possibly lead him to make suggestions that he KNOWS will be taken up by his own voters—and will kill them? ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42776 "2020-04-24T00:31:27Z")
If some fucking moran does inject cleaning fluid what are the chances Oranganus would be held accountable? And the chances of one of them doing it are certainly more than zero. . . . . . . Yeah, that’s what I thought. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42777 "2020-04-24T00:32:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In this evening’s coronavirus rally, Dickhead suggested that his team look into the efficacy of injecting disinfectant into the bodies of those with COVID-19 to clean out the lungs. > > [https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253451487415619586?s=19](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253451487415619586?s=19) I don’t understand why he hasn’t been committed yet. He’s clearly insane, and people just keep letting him talk. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42778 "2020-04-24T00:59:27Z")
Holy crap, I did not realize that [there is a specific word](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ultracrepidarian) for the CFSG, which is apparently older than any of us. ---
**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42779 "2020-04-24T01:10:02Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Trump owns a stake in Sanofi, the maker of the drug. I hate to be in the position of defending Trump, but [Snopes says](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-profit-hydroxychloroquine/) Trump’s investment in Sanofi is via mutual funds and extremely minor. Also, it’s a generic drug, so it’s low profit, and theoretically any drug company can produce it. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42780 "2020-04-24T01:19:28Z")
The clip I saw involved first some official talking about studies of the lifespan of the virus under different conditions: indoors, outdoors with sunlight, sprayed with bleach, sprayed with isopropyl alcohol. Then there was an edit, and Trump is talking about getting sunlight inside the body and injecting people specifically with bleach and isopropyl alcohol. I assume it isn’t a trick of editing. So- dumbest suggestion by Trump yet? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42781 "2020-04-24T01:20:14Z")
I fully expect Tucker, Hannity, and Ingraham to be extolling the benefits of shooting up with bleach in no less than 24 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42782 "2020-04-24T01:22:36Z")
> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#): > > I hate to be in the position of defending Trump, but [Snopes says](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-profit-hydroxychloroquine/) Trump’s investment in Sanofi is via mutual funds and extremely minor. Also, it’s a generic drug, so it’s low profit, and theoretically any drug company can produce it. Hmph! Debunked again! I will have to adjust my views accordingly. It does leave unexplained the motive for promoting hydroxychlorolquine. My starting assumption is: grasping at straws. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42783 "2020-04-24T01:26:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Here are two of the top headlines on the AP right now: > > [Moving past ‘invisible enemy,’ Trump nudges nation to reopen](https://apnews.com/f56aa574c955855b8358cd45688520f6) > > [Trump ‘disagrees strongly’ with Georgia’s plan to reopen](https://apnews.com/c48371b1f44715bc9a73ec682319882e) > > :dubious: > > :rolleyes: > > What a shitshow this country is right now. This just in: [Trump approved of Georgia’s reopen plan before bashing it](https://apnews.com/a031d395d414ffa655fdc65e6760d6a0) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence repeatedly told Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp that they approved of his aggressive plan to allow businesses to reopen, just a day before Trump pulled an about-face and publicly bashed the plan, according to two administration officials. > > The green light from Pence and Trump came in separate private conversations with the Republican governor both before Kemp announced his plan to ease coronavirus restrictions and after it was unveiled on Monday, the officials said. Trump’s sudden shift came only after top health advisers reviewed the plan more closely and persuaded the president that Kemp was risking further spread of the virus by moving too quickly. > > “I told the governor of Georgia Brian Kemp that I disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities,” Trump said Wednesday, just a day after telling reporters that he trusted Kemp’s judgment. “He knows what’s he’s doing.” It’s not that you can’t make this stuff up, folks; it’s that you don’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42784 "2020-04-24T01:27:39Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Holy crap, I did not realize that [there is a specific word](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ultracrepidarian) for the CFSG, which is apparently older than any of us. Thank you! That’s great, and I especially like the way the UK speaker’s pronunciation almost sounds like he’s saying “creep” for the third syllable. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42785 "2020-04-24T01:31:00Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In this evening’s coronavirus rally, Dickhead suggested that his team look into the efficacy of injecting disinfectant into the bodies of those with COVID-19 to clean out the lungs. > > [https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253451487415619586?s=19](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253451487415619586?s=19) I’ll give it a try if he does first. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42786 "2020-04-24T01:43:57Z")
Maybe he really is on a mission from Putin to destroy America? Or more likely, destroy the GOP by becoming their cult leader, double deep-state style, and then promoting injecting bleach, Jim Jones style. Even if The Base is not far enough in the tank to follow through, it sure makes the Ds appear professional and levelheaded by comparison. By like, a metric parsec. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2138) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070.md?page=2140)