# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070 "2016-12-07T00:25:42Z")\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Because what _else_ could possibly lead him to make suggestions that he KNOWS will be taken up by his own voters—and will kill them?

How about the inability to put sufficient links in a chain of reasoning to understand that what he is suggesting is likely to harm or even kill his most ardent supporters?

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42808 "2020-04-24T12:02:46Z")

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> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#):
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> Hindsight’s always 20/20.

Hindsight? HINDSIGHT?? Please tell me this is a whoosh.  
If it isn’t, you are hereby ordered to watch all four episodes of the new docudrama _When They Was Us_ about the Central Park Five gross injustice. That moron now in the White House paid for huge newspaper ads in 1989, demanding that these innocent children of color be murdered for happening to be within two miles of a raped white woman.

That should have disqualified that racist anti-science asshole from ever earning a single vote for any public office, anywhere.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42809 "2020-04-24T12:08:47Z")

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Correction: The Netflix series’ title is _When They See Us_.

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> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#):
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> Hindsight’s always 20/20.

> [@Monty](#):
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> Kidneys, friend. Kidneys.\*

I got both of these jokes.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42811 "2020-04-24T12:34:38Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Some malaria pills, a hair dryer up the nose, bunch of UV lights, shoot up some bleach - cured. Let the economy rip.

Usually we capitalize RIP.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42812 "2020-04-24T12:47:24Z")

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Much as I hate defending our Fearless Leader, I have to point out that he never actually literally suggested injecting bleach into yourself to kill the coronavirus. he DID say something incredibly stupid – I wouldn’t take that away from him. But not THAT stupid.

If you look at the transcript from the April 23 news conference, you have Trump introducing William N. Bryan, leader of the Science and Technology Directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, who talked about recent findings about fighting the virus:

> [@](#):
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> If you look at the fourth line, you inject summer – the sunlight into that. You inject UV rays into that. The same effects on line two – as 70 to 35 degrees with 80 percent humidity on the surface. And look at line four, but now you **INJECT** the sun. The half-life goes from six hours to two minutes. That’s how much of an impact UV rays has on the virus.
> 
> …
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> We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing – just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

(My Bolding) He unfortunately used that word “Inject”, just as an energetic term for “use”.

After he speaks,Trump takes over. He’s clearlyy absorbed the idea of ultraviolet light killing the virus, and of disinfectants like isopropyl alcohol being effective, and he remembered the idea of “injection”, and comes up with this:

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> Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous – whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light – and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, **supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.**
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> …
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> Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by **injection** inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds – it sounds interesting to me.
> 
> So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s – that’s pretty powerful.

He didn’t literally say to inject disifectants, specifically bleach.

Og knows how he’d inject ultraviolet light into the body. Maybe he saw the _Underworld_ movies and thinks UV Bullets exist.

> **[Ultraviolet Ammunition](https://underworld.fandom.com/wiki/Ultraviolet_Ammunition)**
>
> Ultraviolet ammunition is a type of bullet used by Lycans to kill Vampires. They are hollow bullets filled with a special irradiated fluid that emits ultraviolet light. The bullets first appear when the Lycan Trix uses them to kill the Vampire Rigel....

I have to agree that the idea of ultraviolet killing the virus IS pretty powerful – heck, it’s my present business. Light (not just UV, although that’s the most powerful range) kills micro-organisms by a number of mechanisms, something that has been known for well over a century. But, aside from some limited applications with angioplasty and fiberoptics, I don’t know of anyone who’s suggesting injecting UV light into the body. Or bleach.

One of the reporters explicitly verbalized this, putting it in the negative:

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> But I – just, can I ask about – the President mentioned the idea of cleaners, like bleach and isopropyl alcohol you mentioned. There’s no scenario that that could be injected into a person, is there? I mean

To which Trump, cutting off Bryan, said:

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> It wouldn’t be through injection. We’re talking about through almost a cleaning, sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work. But it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.

So Trump explicitly denied that anyone would be injecting bleach into the body.

Of course, as we’ve seen, what he says at one moment can be contradicted the next. But he hasn’t suggested putting bleach into anyone’s veins. Yet.

> **[Transcript - Press Conference: Donald Trump Holds the Daily Coronavirus...](https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-press-conference-coronavirus-briefing-april-23-2020)**
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> Press Conference: Donald Trump Holds the Daily Coronavirus Pandemic Briefing - April 23, 2020

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Come on, now, **T L** , I know you speak yertle. He believes the money is “our’n”, which has a rather different meaning (which excludes “your’n”).

“your’n” is what he likes to rain down on Blue States, & all Dems.

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Man, at least Pickles and Nathan only suggested drinking bleach.
> 
> You’re officially less intelligent than Dethklok, Trump!

“It’s mostly water. And we are mostly water. Therefore, we are bleach.”

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42815 "2020-04-24T13:23:25Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Much as I hate defending our Fearless Leader, I have to point out that he never actually literally suggested injecting bleach into yourself to kill the coronavirus. he DID say something incredibly stupid – I wouldn’t take that away from him. But not THAT stupid.

His base might be, though. He never said to use fish tank cleaner either, but a guy and his wife here in Arizona gulped down an unknown number of [chloroquine phosphate](https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-warns-against-using-additive-found-in-fish-tank-cleaner-to-treat-covid-19) tablets they found in their house. It killed him and put her in ICU for a few days, although she recovered.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42816 "2020-04-24T13:35:11Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Much as I hate defending our Fearless Leader, I have to point out that he never actually literally suggested injecting bleach into yourself to kill the coronavirus. he DID say something incredibly stupid – I wouldn’t take that away from him. But not THAT stupid.
> 
> If you look at the transcript from the April 23 news conference, you have Trump introducing William N. Bryan, leader of the Science and Technology Directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, who talked about recent findings about fighting the virus:
> 
> (My Bolding) He unfortunately used that word “Inject”, just as an energetic term for “use”.
> 
> After he speaks,Trump takes over. He’s clearlyy absorbed the idea of ultraviolet light killing the virus, and of disinfectants like isopropyl alcohol being effective, and he remembered the idea of “injection”, and comes up with this:
> 
> He didn’t literally say to inject disifectants, specifically bleach.
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> Og knows how he’d inject ultraviolet light into the body. Maybe he saw the _Underworld_ movies and thinks UV Bullets exist.  
> [Ultraviolet Ammunition | Underworld Wiki | Fandom](https://underworld.fandom.com/wiki/Ultraviolet_Ammunition)  
> I have to agree that the idea of ultraviolet killing the virus IS pretty powerful – heck, it’s my present business. Light (not just UV, although that’s the most powerful range) kills micro-organisms by a number of mechanisms, something that has been known for well over a century. But, aside from some limited applications with angioplasty and fiberoptics, I don’t know of anyone who’s suggesting injecting UV light into the body. Or bleach.
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> One of the reporters explicitly verbalized this, putting it in the negative:
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> To which Trump, cutting off Bryan, said:
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> So Trump explicitly denied that anyone would be injecting bleach into the body.
> 
> Of course, as we’ve seen, what he says at one moment can be contradicted the next. But he hasn’t suggested putting bleach into anyone’s veins. Yet.
> 
> [Transcript - Press Conference: Donald Trump Holds the Daily Coronavirus Pandemic Briefing - April 23, 2020 | Factba.se](https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-press-conference-coronavirus-briefing-april-23-2020)

This is just lowering the bar. We’re at the point where we’re saying, "Yes, the president (who’s supposed to know stuff) is a rambling moron, but he didn’t actually say something that can be technically defined as ‘rabid fruit bat-level batshit insane.’

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> His base might be, though. He never said to use fish tank cleaner either, but a guy and his wife here in Arizona gulped down an unknown number of [chloroquine phosphate](https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-warns-against-using-additive-found-in-fish-tank-cleaner-to-treat-covid-19) tablets they found in their house. It killed him and put her in ICU for a few days, although she recovered.

Exactly.

At every turn, he questions and challenges his own health experts, and people are getting mixed messages. He regularly, instinctively, reflexively parrots snake oil sales pitches. Anytime he opens his mouth at this point, he’s basically adding to the problem. He needs to shut up. He won’t, of course, but he needs to.

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His language prompted a reporter to ask the POTUS (!) if he was actually promoting injecting bleach. The clip I saw gave me that impression, too. Close enough.

If he’s really promoting using bleach to disinfect things, that’s hardly worth wasting time during a press conference to announce. Sure, they did some research on it, but Clorox wipes and bleach sold out a month ago. People already know this.

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Hmph! Debunked again! I will have to adjust my views accordingly.
> 
> It does leave unexplained the motive for promoting hydroxychlorolquine. My starting assumption is: grasping at straws.

I still think it’s 40% Trump latching on the first thing he hears, 30% insecurity (he is deathly afraid of being wrong - that means he’s weak), and 20% being enabled by yes-men who are too afraid of him to contradict him.

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> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#):
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> Hindsight’s always 20/20.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Hindsight? _Hindsight?_ [What fucking “hindsight”](https://youtu.be/sGUNPMPrxvA)?

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Hindsight? HINDSIGHT?? Please tell me this is a whoosh.  
> If it isn’t, you are hereby ordered to watch all four episodes of the new docudrama _When They Was Us_ about the Central Park Five gross injustice. That moron now in the White House paid for huge newspaper ads in 1989, demanding that these innocent children of color be murdered for happening to be within two miles of a raped white woman.
> 
> That should have disqualified that racist anti-science asshole from ever earning a single vote for any public office, anywhere.

HINDSIGHT?? We saw this coming a long way back. Eyes wide open. Where were you?

I will direct you to the first post in this thread from December 6, 2016. Extensive quote from _The Atlantic._ My bold.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> …  
> [Dear Mr. Obama: You Are Still the President](https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/12/dear-mr-obama-you-are-still-the-president/509714/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)
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> In the four weeks since the election, which seem like four centuries, Donald Trump has dominated the news and done real strategic and economic damage with his stream of intemperate tweets. For a reckoning of the chaos that his tweets about Taiwan and China have already induced, please see these Atlantic items: by Uri Friedman with Shen Dengli, by David Graham, by Chris Bodenner, and by Isaac Stone Fish, with links to many other analyses. The harm he petulantly inflicted today on Boeing, a company that is perennially the United States’s leading exporter and one of its most important high-tech manufacturing employers and standard-setters, is only the latest and most flagrant illustration.
> 
> **This is not responsible behavior. This is not normal. This is not something the United States, or for that matter the world, can really withstand from a commander in chief. But this ungoverned, thin-skinned impetuosity is something the “responsible” GOP has decided, to its enduring shame, that it dare not criticize.**
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> [@asahi](#):
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> This is just lowering the bar. We’re at the point where we’re saying, "Yes, the president (who’s supposed to know stuff) is a rambling moron, but he didn’t actually say something that can be technically defined as ‘rabid fruit bat-level batshit insane.’

> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> His language prompted a reporter to ask the POTUS (!) if he was actually promoting injecting bleach. The clip I saw gave me that impression, too. Close enough.
> 
> If he’s really promoting using bleach to disinfect things, that’s hardly worth wasting time during a press conference to announce. Sure, they did some research on it, but Clorox wipes and bleach sold out a month ago. People already know this.

Well, **[Makers of Lysol Warn Against Ingesting Disinfectants](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/politics/trump-inject-disinfectant-bleach-coronavirus.html)**– they took it seriously enough.

> [@](#):
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> The makers of Lysol and state officials repeated warnings Thursday and Friday about the dangers of ingesting disinfectants or cleaning products as a way to treat or prevent illnesses caused by the coronavirus.
> 
> The remarks came after President Trump in a briefing on Thursday theorized about the possible medical benefits of sunlight, ultraviolet light and household disinfectants against the coronavirus.
> 
> Reckitt Benckiser, the British company that makes Lysol and Dettol, warned customers on Friday against using disinfectants as treatments, saying that “due to **recent speculation and social media activity** ,” it had been asked about the “internal administration” of disinfectants.  
> …

My bold.

Why not just come out and say, _“Because that fuckface president of the United States trump suggested it might be a good idea”_? Stop protecting the naked emperor!  
_Eye bleach- eye bleach!_

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Hmph! Debunked again! I will have to adjust my views accordingly.
> 
> It does leave unexplained the motive for promoting hydroxychlorolquine. My starting assumption is: grasping at straws.

I struggled with this same conundrum and came to the same conclusion. If he’s not motivated by money, what could it be? A: he’s so desperate to have some happy talk content that he repeats any nonsense he’s heard (so, he’s moved on to inhaling Lysol). He’s like human click-bait. “Doctors don’t want you to know this one weird trick to kill coronavirus!”

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**Author:** ![Running\_with\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Running\_with\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Running_with_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/42823 "2020-04-24T14:52:16Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> HINDSIGHT?? We saw this coming a long way back. Eyes wide open. Where were you?

It was a joke, folks, responding to @TonySinclair who said _I’m beginning to think it wasn’t such a good idea to have a moron for a president_

To anyone with half a brain, hindsight shouldn’t have been necessary to know that Trump was a moron, way before he was even nominated.

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> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#):
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> It was a joke, folks, responding to @TonySinclair who said _I’m beginning to think it wasn’t such a good idea to have a moron for a president_
> 
> To anyone with half a brain, hindsight shouldn’t have been necessary to know that Trump was a moron, way before he was even nominated.

Ok. Sorry. Next time throw in some smileys or a sarcasm footnote or something. There have been a few people here recently (though they haven’t lasted long…) who wouldn’t have been joking.

Stand down from General Quarters. 🙂

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[https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475)

> [@](#):
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> But Trump himself is tens of millions of dollars in debt to China: In 2012, his real estate partner refinanced one of Trump’s most prized New York buildings for almost $1 billion. The debt includes $211 million from the state-owned Bank of China — its first loan of this kind in the U.S. — which matures in the middle of what could be Trump’s second term, financial records show.

In short, expect Trump to use the federal government as his piggy bank and rainy day fund. Stimulus just gives his sons the ability to programs as a way to divert contracts and cash without oversight. Naked corruption in plain sight.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Next time throw in some smileys or a sarcasm footnote or something.

Hindsight’s always 20/20.

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